KORAN’S SEXISM EXHIBITED, NATO DECRIED.


THE QUR’AN IS OUTRAGEOUSLY SEXIST.
ITS INCOMPATIBILITY WITH WESTERN CIVILIZATION RUNS DEEP.

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I extracted ALL the significant sentences in the Qur’an having to do with women, and put them below. When philosophy goes to war, it can be as simple as pointing to the naked truth. But old remnants tremble and shatter.

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Warning: Extracting from the Qur’an all verses relative to women was widely viewed by some simple minds, apparently replacing mental activity by pseudo political correctness, or simple cowardice, as “moronic”, “racist” and “neofascist”.

It’s of course none of the sort. Quite the opposite. Publishing parts of a religious text is neither racist, nor stupid, nor neofascist. Various dictators have been trying to hide behind religion at the United Nations, true, by equating secularism with racism. But civilization should not surrender to them.

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OLD RELIGIONS, OLD AND OUTRAGEOUS SEXISM: IS THIS WHAT NATO IS FIGHTING FOR?

In previous versions of this essay, the Qur’an was quoted directly, right at the start of the essay. An argument was then made, though, that I did not refer to the Bible and Hinduism while I mentioned the Qur’an, and that I thus exhibited this way my fanatical pro-Bible, pro-Eight Sacred texts of Hinduism disposition. So let me correct that by being very clear.

Both the Bible and old time Hinduism are sexist, true. The Bible being, moreover, a direct source for the Qur’an (see below). Hinduism was much more murderous than the Qur’an against women, no comparison (widows would be burned alive, sometimes, as in the Old Scandinavian religion).

OK, now that these greetings are out of the way, and before quoting the Qur’an’s abusive disposition against women, let me get to the crux of the matter as far as the point of it all, another bone of contention, some having accused me of ‘Historicism’, being obsessed by old texts, out of context.

Neither the Bible nor Hinduism are the law anywhere nowadays. Instead the Qur’an is officially the law in many so called “Muslim” countries. NATO supports many of them.

In particular, soldiers from secular NATO are supposed to fight in Afghanistan, to defend Afghan law against insurgents. But Afghan law’s core is the Qur’an. Thus secular countries are supposed to die in the name of the Qur’an.

But I present a thorough and handy demonstration that those who apply the Qur’an to the letter are in drastic violation with Human Rights as defined by the Charter of the United Nations.

Differently from Nazi law, or the Shariah, the Charter of the United Nations imposes at the outset the fundamental doctrine of Western Civilization, namely equality of all to the law. It’s fundamental to Athenian law, and Roman law, and the doctrine of the State Of Law made explicit by a Roman empress, 16 centuries ago.

Using NATO troops to support Islamist regimes, like the one in Afghanistan, is an intrinsic contradiction, and actually in violation of international law. This drastic observation ought to have major consequences on the present Western strategy, which is therefore not just illegal, but unwise, besides being inhuman.

(I use occasionally the older word “Koran” instead of the apparently more correct “Qur’an”, to the benefit of older readers; Only a few technical administrative verses about details on how to manage those pesky women have been omitted.)

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THE QUR’AN SAYS THAT RAPING WOMEN IS RIGHT BECAUSE THEY ARE PASSIVE “FIELDS IN WHICH TO PLOW”:
After general salutations in Surah 1, and the introduction of Allah, and His “Messenger”, Muhammad, the Qur’an starts for real with Surah 2, by far the longest in the Qur’an. It is called “The Cow”. The Cow has five verses on women. Two are innocuous, three are abusive.

“It’s OK to have sex with your wives on the night of the fast.” [Surah 2; verse 187]. “Menstruation is a sickness. Don’t have sex with menstruating women.” [S. 2; v. 222]. “WOMEN ARE YOUR FIELDS SO GO THEN INTO YOUR FIELDS AS YOU WANT. [S.2: v. 223]. “Women have rights that are similar to men, but men have a status above them.” 2:228. “A woman is worth one-half a man.” 2:282.

Thus it can be perceived, as soon as The Cow, early in the Koran, that once a woman is in the possession of a man (it could be a wife, or a “slave girl”, a concept ubiquitous in the Qur’an, not just in Southern American plantations of the eighteen century), she has no right in refusing sex.

The Afghan law article 132 just states this fact. But Obama finds this article 132 “abhorrent” . Thus it would seem that Obama, although “not at war with Islam”, finds it “abhorrent”. In other words, apparently without being conscious of it, Obama is self contradicting. That is the exact Achilles’ heel of NATO’s Afghan and Pakistan strategy. It has been fighting the wrong enemy, and has allied itself with the wrong friend, who, verily not a friend, but the West’s enemy of old.
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QUR’AN: WOMEN ARE SEX WIDGETS:
“Marry the women, who seem good to you, two or three or four.” 4:3.

“And if ye wish to exchange one wife for another and ye have given unto one of them a sum of money (however great), take nothing from it. Would you take it by the way of calumny and open wrong ?” [4:20.]

(Nothing wrong with exchanging wives, something wrong about adding “open wrong”.)

“All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” [4:24.]

(You can’t have sex with married women, unless they are slaves obtained in war, with whom you may rape or do whatever you like.)

And those who are not able to afford to marry free , believing women, let them marry from their believing slaves…  [4; 25.]

“And leave the wives your Lord created for you ?” [S. 26; v. 166]

(Women were created by Allah for the enjoyment of men.)

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QUR’AN: DON’T FORGET TO PUNISH WOMEN:
Lewd women are to be confined to their houses until death. 4:15.

You may not forcibly inherit women, unless they are flagrantly lewd. 4:19. “All married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess (slaves).” 4.24.

…”And if when they are honorably married they commit lewdness they shall incur the half of the punishment (prescribed) for free women (in that case). This is for those among you who fear to commit sin. But to have patience would be better for you. Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” [4; 25.]

MEN ARE IN CHARGE OF WOMEN, BECAUSE ALLAH MADE MEN TO BE BETTER THAN WOMEN. Refuse to have sex with women from whom you fear rebellion, and BEAT THEM UP. [4:34].

Men are guardians over women because Allah has made some of them excel others, and because men spend on them of their wealth. So virtuous women are obedient… [4: 35].

Lot offers his daughters to a MOB of ANGEL RAPERS. 11:78. (This is actually Genesis [19; 7-8], one of the many extract of the Qur’an, cut and paste from the Bible.)

When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, nursing mothers with forget their babies. 22:1-2.

The wives of Muhammad will be punished double for lewdness. (And that is easy for Allah.) 33:30. The wives of Muhammad are not like other women. They must not leave their houses. 33:32-33.

Those who “did wrong” will go to hell, and their wives will go to HELL with them (no matter how well the wives behaved). [37:22-23]

The wives of Noah and Lot (who were both righteous) betrayed their husbands and are now in the FIRE. [66:10.]

Muhammad’s wives need to be careful. If they criticize their husband, Allah will replace them with better ones. 66:5.    
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QUR’AN: WOMEN ARE PLAIN DISGUSTING:
Don’t pray if you are drunk, dirty, or have touched a woman lately. 4:43. When it’s time to pray and you have just used the toilet or touched a woman, be sure to wash up. If you can’t find any water, just rub some dirt on yourself. 5:6.

“The GUILE OF YOU WOMEN… IS VERY GREAT.” 12:28.
Those who disbelieve in the afterlife give female names to angels. 53:27.

YOUR WIVES AND CHILDREN ARE YOUR ENEMIES. They are to you only a temptation. 64:14-15 [That idea comes straight from Jesus, a prophet of Islam. A relative of Muhammad was a professional Christian, and told Muhammad was he saw in the desert.]  
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QUR’AN: the WOMEN, and the children ARE FEEBLE MINDED AND ARE UNABLE TO DEVISE A PLAN. [Surah 4; verse 98].

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QUR’AN: STEAL WOMEN:
There is no blame on you if you divorce women when you have not… appointed for them a portion, and make provision for them… (this is) a duty on the doers of good (to others).[2.236]. Males are to inherit TWICE AS MUCH as females. 4:11. “Unto the male is the equivalent share of two females.” 4:176.
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QUR’AN: SEXISM IS GOOD:
A man cannot treat his wives fairly. [4:129].

MEN AND WOMEN ARE ENEMIES! [Surah 7: verse 24].

If you value your parents, wives, and children more than Allah and Muhammad, then just wait and see what Allah will do to you after you die. [9; 24.]

If you accuse an honorable women of adultery, be sure to bring four witness. Otherwise you will receive 80 lashes. 24:4. A husband can accuse his wife of adultery with only one witness. 24:6 .
You don’t have to be modest around your wives or your slave girls “that your right hand possess.” 23:6.

Believing women must lower their gaze and be modest, cover themselves with veils, and not reveal themselves except to their husbands, relatives, children, and slaves. 24:31.

(That was the verse believed to justify Hijab.)

Prophet, enjoin your wives, your daughters and the wives of true believers to draw their veils close around them. 33:59.
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MUHAMMAD HANKY PANKY:
Allah gave Zeyd to Muhammad in marriage. This was so that all Muslims would know that it’s OK to marry your adopted son’s ex-wife. 33:37.

Allah says it is lawful for Muhammad to marry any women he wants. 33:50-51.

When Allah or Muhammad decide that a man and a woman should marry, they must marry. 33:36.

If men must speak to Muhammad’s wives they must speak from behind a curtain. And no one must ever marry one of his wives. 33:53.
But it’s OK for Muhammad’s wives to talk with certain people. 33:55 If Muhammad’s wives are good, Allah will give them “an immense reward.”

33:28-29. O Prophet! Why bannest Thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?”
Allah says it’s OK for Muhammad to have sex with any of his wives whenever he wants. 66:1. (Article 132 of Afghan law again!)

Muhammad’s wives need to be careful. If they criticize their husband, Allah will replace them with better ones. 66:5  
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APPRECIATION FOR HUMAN FEMALES:
Virgins await those who enter paradise. 4:57.
But the single-minded slaves of Allah will enjoy a Garden filled with lovely-eyed virgins. 37:40-48
Female companions await those who enter the Gardens of Eden on the Day of Reckoning. 38:52 
Allah will reward faithful Muslims after they die with “fair ones with wide, lovely eyes.” 44.54

Allah will give those in the Garden women of modest gaze whom neither man nor jinn have touched. [56. 17-23.] (Jinn = Evil spirits, or genies, created from fire.)

Allah will reward believing men with “fair ones” (beautiful women) in heaven, “close guarded in pavilions”. [55:71 & 72.] (Lest they escape?) Allah made virgins to be lovers and friends to those on his right hand. [s. 56; 36 & 37.]

The preceding appreciation for women, in conjunction with other verses calling for killing unbelievers, to go to paradise, entice young men to die for Allah.
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NOT TO SAY MUHAMMAD WAS NOT A COURAGEOUS PROGRESSIST:
The parts of the Arabian desert that neither the Greco-Romans nor the Christians or Jews had penetrated yet were savage and cruel. Muhammad fought a lot of that successfully. For example, it was traditional to bury alive infant girls. The Qur’an condemns this:
“And when the one buried alive it is asked for what sin she was killed,” (81:8-9).

In truth, the Qur’an as we know it was ordered by Uthman, the third successor of Muhammad, the greatest emperor of his time. This was extremely opposed at the time: a coup developed against Uthman, and he was assassinated, or executed for it. The situation degenerated into a civil war that last to this day. So Obama’s statement that:” “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country,” on the face of it, means nothing.

The literal interpretation of the Qur’an was long unlawful, centuries ago. In modern times, it was pushed by oil wealth and the Saudis, long with the full approval of the CIA, which was delighted to have an issue to divide everybody (Pushing Quranism was especially useful to fight, France, Britain or the USSR, or divide South Asia).

There are excellent reasons to believe that Muhammad would have been seriously irate about the Qur’an we have presently. There are plenty of aspects of His personality in the Hadith, which, concurrently with known fact of His life (“Sunna”), depict Him as very advanced, especially about the condition of women.

That puts the rest of the Qur’an under suspicion.  Aisha, Muhammad beloved child-bride went to war about the sexism in the Qur’an. As she said: “It is not good that you people have made us (women) equal to dogs and donkeys.” [Hadith, Volume 1, Book 9, Number 498.]
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THE UN CHARTER CONTRADICTS THE QUR’AN:

The United Nations Charter, is an overgrowth of the “Liberty, Equality, Fraternity”. The Quranic instructions above, which, once again are ALL instructions in the Koran relative to women, form a clear picture of complete violation of all the first seven articles of the Declaration of Human Rights of the United Nations.

“Now, Therefore THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY proclaims THIS UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS as a common standard of achievement for all peoples and all nations, to the end that every individual and every organ of society, keeping this Declaration constantly in mind, shall strive by teaching and education to promote respect for these rights and freedoms and by progressive measures, national and international, to secure their universal and effective recognition and observance, both among the peoples of Member States themselves and among the peoples of territories under their jurisdiction.

Article 1. All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 2. Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, color, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 3. Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Article 4. No one shall be held in slavery or servitude; slavery and the slave trade shall be prohibited in all their forms.

Article 5. No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6. Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7. All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
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THUS, THE QUR’AN IS AN ANTI WESTERN CIVILIZATION RECIPE BOOK:
The Qur’an explicitly contradicts the STATE OF LAW. The State of Law has been central to Western civilization for more than two millennia.

That principle is that all adults, even the monarch (if any) are equivalent in the eyes of the law. It is central to the present civilization (See Galla Placidia, Roman empress, in the conclusion).

On the contrary, the fascist principle, the Fuehrerprinzip, is verse 59 of Surah 4 of the Qur’an (and that maybe where Hitler found it). It says that the leader should be viewed as God, as long as he is a Muslim. Hitler modified that in: “The leader ist Gott, as long as he is a German.”

Now true, from Justinian to Hitler, including Henry VIII and countless others, including G.W. Bush, the principle of the State Of Law was violated by many. But Bush may still be brought to justice by the independent judicial system of the USA.

The preceding should put to rest the issue of violation of the rights of women by the Qur’an. 

The Qur’an does not treat married women equally, and expect women in general to often be “slave girls”, or “those that your right hand possess”. A woman captured in war, even if married, is totally owned and has no human rights whatsoever. Women should be covered, beaten and confined, as soon as found morally short. In which case one can seize their property. Sometimes women are only allowed to speak behind a ‘curtain”, and are forbidden to leave the house. Why not? Women are “enemies”, it’s that simple. Why should enemies go school? When Obama says he loves Islam, shortly after saying that he wants girls to go to school, he is obviously contradicting himself.

Now, true, not all Muslims follow the Qur’an literally. Many of the outlying areas (Senegal, Indonesia) long had their own interpretations that used to avoid a literal interpretation of the Qur’an. These much more modern and compatible interpretations should be the only allies the West can trust.

Unfortunately, oil money and its clout, plus CIA pro-religious extremist machinations, have increasingly brought a renaissance of the literal interpretation of the Qur’an. The bombing campaign of the USA, all the way to Pakistan, can only make the situation worse.

People should not be bombed. What needs to be bombed is many ideas in the sexist and fascist Koran that Uthman contrived, obviously contradicting Muhammad, at least as far as the treatment of women is concerned.
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Patrice Ayme
http://patriceayme.com/

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Remarks: 1) Publishing the preceding on various sites I have (DK, ET, CD), I got lots of hate mail, and insults. I found this interesting, because those critics called my quotes above hateful, hating me for them, although, since I was just quoting the Qur’an, what they are truly hating, unbeknownst to them, is not me, but the Qur’an itself.

…The way of the hate monger is long, difficult, and full of traps.

2) Some people asked, in their naivety: what is the point of exhibiting all that sexism? Well, it’s part of an immense reasoning the subtlety of which escapes those who decided the strategy of the USA in Afghanistan and Pakistan. 

Some, of course, ask: what is the point of exhibiting the tortures, the crimes, even the holocausts?

What was demonstrated here, beyond a reasonable doubt, is that the Qur’an, as it exists, is extremely sexist. This does not say other religions are not sexist. Some are. Judeo-Christo-Islamism is  not the worst. And, Christianism and Islam, are variants of  sexist Judaism. The Bible is full of outrageous sexism, and some sexism in the Qur’an is straight from the Bible.

3) Some argue that of these things one should never talk. According to this emotional logic, if something is inconvenient, it should not be mentioned. This was tried before: one did not want to mention the massacre of the Jews, that was too politically incorrect, so one ended with Auschwitz.

4) An objection from the Internet:

“When Patrice said: “Now, true, not all Muslims follow the Qur’an”, it showed her ignorance in a major and extremely surprising way. The simple fact is that one cannot be Muslim and not follow the Qur’an – all of it. To suggest that “not all Muslims follow the Qur’an” is completely off the mark. This is truly one of those “either/or” situations: You either believe in the revelations of the Qur’an and follow what it says, or you’re not a Muslim. Period.”

Patrice’s amused answer to this: Sometimes, “extreme surprise” is a major warning, not just a simple fact. Ignorance can masquerade as knowledge.

Your culture is smaller than you think. Check for example Senegal and the Mourides… Among many others… It’s not because you are ignorant that others are too. Oh, check the Druses, too, Hashashins (“Everything is false” as ultimate meta principle) and many Salafists. Right from the start, the Qur’an was not believed by many people who viewed themselves as Muslim, especially the closest family members of Muhammad. Far from feeling the Qur’an was everything, some looked at it as trash. Sexist trash, said Aischa.

Hence the ongoing Muslim civil war, as I said above. Many naive Americans think Wahhabism is everything, because oil is everything. But Wahhabism is not everything, because oil is not everything.

5) Much of the Qur’an comes from the Bible. The idea that woman is worth half a man is there. Oops, not quite:

Leviticus 27:1-7 … “The Lord set the value of a male between the ages of twenty and sixty at fifty shekels of silver, according to the sanctuary shekel, and if it is a female, set her value at thirty shekels.”

6) GALLA PLACIDIA & THE STATE OF LAW: On 11 June 429 CE, Roman empress Galla Placidia had a law passed, with the following remarkable passage: “it’s an admission worthy of the majesty of a prince to confess when obliged by the law: because Our authority results from that of justice. A prince who submits his dignity to the laws is more respectable from this than from his power. By the present edict We deprive others of what We forbid to ourselves.”

That law was incorporated in the refurbishment of Roman law under emperor Justinian, a century later.

Now of course, the Muslims never had an empress (there was a sultaness once, in Egypt, among the Mameluks confronting Saint Louis; it did not last long.) How could the Muslims have an empress? What, with a half wit? A creature worth half a man? Something in which to plow? A fortiori not an empress extending the theory of the secular state. Compare the nobility of the preceding passage to the grossness of the Qur’an fascist principle: “O YE WHO BELIEVE! Obey Allah, and obey the messenger and OBEY THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE IN POWER.” (Quran’s fascist principle, S.4; v. 59).

Nor was Galla Placidia alone. She was not the only “Augusta”. When the Franks established their empire in the north west quadrant of the ex Roman empire, they had around 7 reigning queens in 150 years. One of those queens was Bathilde. She had been captured as a slave in England, and, once reigning queen, abrogated slavery. That was at the exact time that Uthman ordered the writing of his pro-slavery document, the Qur’an. 

7) As soon as one mentions the Qur’an, in a way that is not thoroughly respectful and apologetic, the Politically Correct and Intrinsically Stupid generally screams that it is racist and xenophobic, and, in the USA they often deduce one is pro-Bible. 

The problem with holding onto such hysteria, is that the Qur’an is pretty much a desert version of the Bible light. A demonstration of this is that one finds some of the preceding outrages in the Bible first. The Bible was written, in Babylon, 11 centuries before the Qur’an.

Here it is:

Deuteronomy 22:20-1: If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl’s virginity can be found, she shall be brought to the door of her father’s house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father’s house.

Leviticus 20-9: If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death.

Exodus 35:2:  For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day shall be your holy day, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it must be put to death.

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14 Responses to “KORAN’S SEXISM EXHIBITED, NATO DECRIED.”

  1. Farles Chew Says:

    What an incredibly stupid person you must be. Did you know the Bible is incredibly sexist too, moran?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Thank you for the very judicious comment. The Bible is already incredibly sexist, indeed. Mixing it with the morality of desert raiders busy stealing everything in sight, especially women, gave it a bit more spice. Hence, about half the time in the Koran, women are expected to be slaves captured in war, or bought at the market.

      With the possible partial exception of the state of the Vatican, there are no states where Catholicism is the law. Even historically, it was only in the Papal states,a nd Inquisition Spain that Catholic law was applied. In the heart of Europe, such as the empire of the Franks, and its descendant states (most of Western Europe), Catholicism was never the law. The law was mostly the Roman secular law (after the Franks’Salic Law fell in disuse).

      In contemporary Islamist Republics, such as Afghanistan or Pakistan, the Qur’an IS the law. Article 132 of the Afghan Constitution says women can be forced to have sex, and, even better, are legally forced to enjoy it. Obama found that article “abhorent”, but then that article respects the Qur’an perfectly. Then Obama sends good young Americans to die for saving the Islamist republic, and its Qur’an, an obvious contradiction.

      It is true that the Bible is “incredibly sexist too”. But that’s like saying the parrot imitated the master, garbling along. So, if you prefer, please feel free to call Afghanistan and Pakistan Biblical Parrotist Republics.

      Western civilization is secularist, therein its truth and might. It has nothing to do with the Bible. Most of the Bible itself was parotted by Jewish prisoners in Baghdad, from older, more civilized and less superstitious sources (as my colleague Zoroasther will testify one of these days).

      Have a good day, and do not forget to hate, that should keep you awake.

      PA

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      • Richard Wagner Says:

        Patrice, enjoy western civilization and advise westerners to stay away from the muslim countries.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          I do not know what a “Muslim” country is. Islam is just a religion, as far as I am concerned, and, as said in some places in the Qur’an, to each her own religion. So called “Muslim” countries were not “Muslim” 14 centuries ago. And they all contain fossil populations of non Muslim religion that the terrorists have not finished killing and chasing out yet.

          As it is, as a young human, I had the good fortune to be brought up in one of the oldest cities in the world, one of the sacred cities of Islam. I was may be the first non Islam child to do so in 13 centuries. Ever since I have felt comfortable expressing my mind.

          And as far as Western civilization is concerned, as Ghandi put it, “it would be a good idea”. Political correctness has nothing to do with Western civilization, far from it. Speaking one’s mind clearly, with a pure heart, what could be better?

          So far, in person, although I have experienced Western fascists and racists, and even their wrath, and bodily harm, I never had a bad conversation face to face with a real “Muslim”, although I spent most of my childhood and early years in so called “Muslim” countries. I have opposed ferociously the Iraq invasion (losing all my American friends for a while), and I now oppose stridently the way the war in Afghanistan is being conducted, and why.

          PA

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  2. Amna Says:

    Patrice!

    I’ll be looking up and comparing the translations in my version of the Quran when I get back home (Tuesday?) – I’ll let you know what I find. I DO know that one of your quotes is legit for sure since my own father actually busted out with it in the middle of an argument we had years ago about male superiority. His translation of that quote went something like, “Men are one degree higher than women.” Yes, my own father read that to me as I was repeatedly asking him why my brother was allowed to do certain things that I was not.

    As you know, I am all for this argument that the silly books spread sexism, but I do want to correct a couple of your points. Very small points, but what the hell, why not strive for perfection?

    In reference to the quote 5:6 – I would imagine (and I could be completely wrong here) that the cleansing of the body after touching the opposite sex is required of women as well. I THINK that the “touching” referred to here is more of a sexual reference, as in, make sure you wash up after you have sex.
    Also, rubbing dirt on yourself as an alternate to water definitely seems derogatory towards women in the extracted context of cleansing yourself after touching a woman, but I remember being told that it’s actually “sand” that you can rub on yourself and that exception was made for the people living in the desert that did not always have water to spare. So I don’t think it’s actually saying “Women are dirtier than dirt!” I think it just accidentally comes off that way in the extracted context of the quote you provided.

    That was all, nothing big. Again, I’m going to compare your translations to the ones I have back at home and I’ll let you know what I find out!

    Amna

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Amna: I agree with all your points. As far as women being worse than dirt, it just came out that way, because I tried to publish ALL the quotes of the Qur’an about women (except some details of a completely administrative nature). Now I did this myself, and I may well have missed some quotes, and I am aware of some controversies in translation (for example, some scholar, operating under a pseudonym for safety reasons (!), has recently suggested that Muslims who enter paradise would be given grapes, not virgins; although, considering the context in the Qur’an, women as slaves, I personally believe it’s virgins, indeed, not grapes; let’s not forget Muhammad has sex with many a captured woman, including some Jewish ones: that’s in the Hadith).

      Confusion in translation came in part from the fact the Qur’an was the first book written in what was going to become written Arabic: wovels’ marks were missing, etc. Anyway, this, presenting the sacred Muslim texts to the ignorant masses, is a work that is just starting. Precisely because Allah speaks only Arabic, and most Muslims do not speak Arabic, especially not old Arabic, most Muslims do not seem to have much idea of what is in the Qur’an (and the Hadith, and Sunna). In my latest role as a Muslim scholar, I want to correct this, and bring Allah closer to them. This knowledge should change the bombing policy of the USA, so it is far from full of hatred.

      I thank you for your support. I have other sites, and got hundreds of hostile comments, some full of hatred. I was accused of “racism”, “hatred”, and told repeatedly the Bible was no better, as if I thought highly of the Bible. I actually completely despise Christianity, that I view as the ultimate form of intellectual fascism. Christianity was the proximal cause of the Dark Ages, in my opinion (an opinion that Gibbons already had nearly three centuries ago, and more importantly, emperor Julian, a Parisian and Athenian intellectual thought just that, more than 16 centuries ago, and he wrote extensively about it; he was unfortunately killed before he could extirpate the Christian devil). Although, overall, Rome decayed because of the usual intellectual fascism that plutocracy finds so friendly.

      Sexism is an independent sin against the mind, that grew because of the heavy militarization of successful civilizations in the last three millennia.

      Thanks again,
      Patrice

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  3. Zoe99 Says:

    I partially agree with your point, which (I hope I’ve understood this correctly) is that we are actually at war with Islamic *states*, but not at war with the religion itself.

    Because it seems to me that if you think we *should* be at war with ISLAM, then we should also be at war with Christianity, because if you take the Bible literally, you would see many of the same problems with the Bible that you do with the Qur’an (though I also agree based on the quotes I have seen — and I will freely admit that I am far from being an Islamic scholar — that the Qur’an is a couple of notches worse).

    And I assure you that there are those who would like US law to be 100% consistent with the literal Bible.

    So I think Obama’s comment was correct — we are not at war with Islam, itself. What he should maybe say in follow-up — at some point in the future, when the Islamic world has stopped worrying that we are about to start a new Crusade against Muslims of all stripes — is that we *are* at war with Islam as it is being interpreted or applied.

    Basically I think this whole thing should have been a wake-up call in American that we should make absolutely sure that our society is SECULAR and not Christian, because if we were a purely secular society here we could stand our ground and insisted that the only good government is a secular government. Once you open the door even a crack to let religion enter government, you’ve lost the moral high ground and you can’t criticize other countries for letting other religions influence their government.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      We have been at war with Christianity, but we won. Actually the Franks, 15 centuries ago, did most of the work. The rest is details. Lots of this in my “Tyranosopher” site (“patriceayme.com”)

      Afghanistan is an “Islamist Republic”. Secular republics (all of NATO) should not fight for Islamism. Obama is all furious against the Afghan Constitution, which is straight out of the Qur’an. He has to choose whether he wants to continue fighting himself or not. Michelle has to choose whether she wants her husband fight for people whose LAW and religious duty is to beat they wives, if found to be disobedient, lewd, etc…

      Personally I would go out there, and make Afghanistan a secular republic first. If they are not happy with that, I would get out. If they attack us again, I would wallop them again, and impose a secular constitution, regime, and general secular terror. As it is the West, especially American bombings, is terror, but we don’t know in the name of what that makes sense.

      Can’t win a war without having a clear, non contradictory goal first. As it is Obama’s war is doomed.

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  4. Koranist Says:

    Many of these verses are fudged.

    Koran gives complete freedom:

    http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25105

    Koran is peace!

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I am using official Wahhabist translation, from the Saudi government. Other translations concur. By the way, there are also death threats in the Evangiles form Jesus’ mouth, and many a Christian fanatic will retort that this could not be possibly so, because Christianism is love. Whatever. Hitler was saying he was a man of peace all the time. Saying so is not making so. And the point was not whether the Qur’an was for eternal peace or not, but whether it was sexist, and whether it respected the fundamental principle of the state of law, which is equality of all to the law. Clearly not the case.

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  5. Koranist Says:

    O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female, and made you into races and tribes, so that you may identify one another. Surely the noblest of you, in Allah‘s sight, is the one who is most pious of you. Surely Allah is All-Knowing, All-Aware. (Hujurat) 49-13

    “Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians — whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve” (5:69).

    124. If any do deeds of righteousness,- be they male or female – and have faith, they will enter Heaven, and not the least injustice will be done to them. (4:124)

    “We sent aforetime our messengers with clear Signs and sent down with them the Book and the Balance, that men may stand forth in Justice.” [Al-Hadeed 57:25].

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest ye swerve, and if ye distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.” [An-Nisa 4:35]

    “O ye who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to Piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.” [Al-Maidah 5:8]

    Koran is peace!

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Of course. Thanks for the quotes. Much appreciated. The Qur’an is a very amusing book. Now may I suggest to gather all the quotes where Allah threatens people with fire, or want to burn them so much, he regrows their skins between sessions, so that they can be burned again? It’s a much longer list than the six quotes above. So shall we deduce that Qur’an is fire? And then we could do the same with war… Or should we speak about the treatment reserved to the unbelievers? (Hint: it has to do with fire.)

      ISLAM, RELIGION OF FIRE AND HELL:

      “Ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated!”– [Qur’an, Surah 2; verse 65]

      “A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones.’ [Qur’an s. 2: v. 24]

      “Disbelievers will be burned with fire.” [Koran, S. 2:39, v. 90]

      “Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They’d like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell.” [Koran, s. 2: v.96]

      “Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire.” [Koran, s. 2:v. 126]

      “Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don’t kill them.) [Qur’an s.2:v. 191-2]

      “War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not.” [s. 2: v. 216]

      “Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire.” 2:221

      “Disbelievers worship false gods. They will burn forever in the Fire.” 2:257

      “Those who swallow usury … are rightful owners of the Fire.” 2:275

      “Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire.” 3:10 Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

      The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

      We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151

      Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

      Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56

      Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

      Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

      The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

      We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151

      If you die fighting for Allah, you’ll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157

      “Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?”
      Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162

      “Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead.”
      (Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his ‘letter to America’ regarding the 11 September 2001 attacks.) 3:169-171

      Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

      If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91 Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115

      Allah will lead them astray and they will go to hell. 4:119-121

      For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138

      Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140

      The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145

      You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don’t are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151

      For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

      God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 4:168-169

      Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

      Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10

      The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers. 5:29

      Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

      Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36

      Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37

      Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

      Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41

      Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. 5:45

      Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

      Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

      Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

      Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

      Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94

      After agreeing to send down a table of food from heaven, Jesus warns his disciples that will catch holy hell if they ever stop believing. 5:115

      Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5

      “See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!” 6:11

      Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6 “Evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah.” 6:33

      Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49

      Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

      When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93

      Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113

      Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125

      Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128

      Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah’s will. 6:137

      The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awarded an evil doom. 6:157

      How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them. 7:4-5 Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36

      Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38

      “Taste the doom for what ye used to earn.” 7:39

      Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41

      Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. “So how’s it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?” 7:44

      Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47

      Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: “Pour water on us.” But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50

      Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64

      Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71

      “We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers.” 7:72

      Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78

      Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
      7:83-84

      “So the earthquake seized them.”
      Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91

      “How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?”
      Shu’eyb tells the Allah’s victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93

      “Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not.”
      Unbelievers are never safe from Allah’s wrath. 7:95-99

      “We straitened Pharaoh’s folk with famine.”
      Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh. 7:130

      “So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood – a succession of clear signs.” 7:133

      “We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations.” 7:136

      Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152

      “But those of them who … changed the word … We sent down upon them wrath from heaven.” 7:162

      “Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?” 7:164

      “When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We … visited [them] with dreadful punishment.” 7:165

      Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167

      Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn’t see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179

      “Allah … cut the root of the disbelievers.”
      Allah destroyed the unbelievers. 8:7

      Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12

      Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14

      When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

      Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

      Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35

      Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36

      “The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell.” 8:37

      The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: “Taste the punishment of burning!” 8:50

      Don’t let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

      Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you.” 8:68

      He [Allah] gave thee [Muhammad] power over them.”
      Allah gave Muhammad slaves as war booty. 8:70-1

      Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3

      Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

      Don’t let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17

      “Count ye the slaking of a pilgrim’s thirst … as (equal to the worth of) him who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and striveth in the way of Allah?”
      Helping the poor is not as important as believing in Islam and fighting in holy wars. 9:19

      Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34

      Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35

      If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

      Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49

      “Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands.” 9:52

      Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60

      Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63

      Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68

      Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

      Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74

      “Theirs will be a painful doom.” 9:79

      Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83

      For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90

      Non-muslim who pretend to believe (so they won’t be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95

      The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98

      “We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom.” 9:101

      Those that ignore Allah will be thown into the fire of hell. 9:109

      Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

      Don’t pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

      Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

      Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4

      If you enjoy life and ignore Muhammad’s bullshit, Allah will torture you forever in the Fire after you die. 10:7-8

      Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13

      “Ignominy overtaketh them – They have no protector from Allah – as if their faces had been covered with a cloak of darkest night. Such are rightful owners of the Fire.” 10:27

      On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45

      “His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night.” 10:50

      The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54

      Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70

      Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73

      Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88

      If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will “see the painful doom.” 10:95-97

      “The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them.” 11:8

      Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39

      Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48

      “Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled.” 11:76

      Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83

      Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day.” 11:84

      “Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him.” 11:93

      “He … will lead them to the Fire for watering-place.” 11:98

      “The doom of the Hereafter” 11:103

      Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7

      “Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you.” 11:113

      Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119

      Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5

      Those who do not answer Allah’s call will go to hell. 13:18

      Allah leads disbelievers astry while he torments them in this life. Then afterh they die, he makes them uffer even more pain in the doom of the Hereafter. 13:33-34

      The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

      “When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom.” 13:41

      Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2

      Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17

      There is no escape from Allah’s doom. 14:21

      “Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom.” 14:22

      Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29

      “They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey’s end will be the Fire.” 14:30

      “Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them.” 14:44

      Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50

      Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43

      Allah’s doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50

      Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. “And the doom came on them whence they knew not.” 16:26

      Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29

      Allah “will cause the earth to swallow” those who plan ill-deeds. the doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45

      Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned.” 16:62

      “Theirs will be a painful doom.” 16:63

      “The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye.” 16:77

      “When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them.” 16:85

      Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88

      Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94

      Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104

      Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah’s wrath is upon them. 16:106

      Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7

      Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8

      Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10

      Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16

      How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17

      Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18

      “Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell.” 17:39

      “Lo! the doom of thy Lord is to be shunned.” 17:57

      Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58

      Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63

      Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he’ll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98

      Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

      Christians will cry out to Allah’s “partners”, but they won’t hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

      Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53

      Nothing prevents non-muslims from believing in Islam. So it’s their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

      There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58

      Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59

      On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100

      Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102

      The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105

      Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah’s revelations and messengers. 18:106

      “Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
      Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

      Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70

      “How many a generation have We destroyed before them?”
      Allah brags about destroying entire generations. 19:74

      Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75

      Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79

      Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83

      Allah will “drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd.” 19:86

      Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98

      Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6

      The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

      Lo! it hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away.” 20:48

      “There [in hell] he will neither die nor live.” 20:74

      Those who do not believe Allah’s revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127

      Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128

      Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6

      “And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell.” 21:29

      Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40

      “Fear the Lord … and dread the Hour of doom.” 21:49

      Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77

      The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99

      When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:1-2

      The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame. 22:3-4

      Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and burning in the next. 22:9

      Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15

      “There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will.” 22:18

      Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

      Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25

      How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45

      “They will bid thee hasten on the Doom.” 22:47

      Those who disregard Allah’s revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51

      “Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day.” 22:55

      Those who disbelieve Allah’s revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57

      Those who disbelieve Allah’s revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72

      Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27

      Those who don’t believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77

      “Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding.” 23:103

      When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104

      Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

      Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11

      Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14

      Those who traduce virtuous, believing women … cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom.” 24:23

      Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57

      Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13

      Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19

      It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27

      “Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell” 25:34

      Those who deny Muhammad’s revelations will be destroyed. 25:36

      Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37

      “They [the non-muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road.” 25:42

      “The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish.” 25:65

      Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69

      “Hell will appear plainly to the erring.” 26:91

      Allah killed those that ignored Hud’s warnings. 26:124-139

      Allah destroyed the people in Lot’s town with a dreadful rain. 26:172-3

      Many will not believe until they see the painful doom. 26:201

      Those who believe in another god are doomed. 26:213

      Allah leads those who do not believe in the Hereafter astray by making things work out OK in this life, so that he can torment them forever in the next. They will get the worst punishment and will be the greatest losers. 27:4-5

      “Allah destroyed them and their people, every one.” 27:51

      Allah sent a dreadful rain on “those who stayed behind.” 27:58

      Whoever does something wrong will be thrown into the Fire. 27:90

      “We made them (evil-doers) patterns that invite unto the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped.” 28:40-42

      Allah has completely destroyed many communities. 28:58

      Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined? 28:62-64

      Allah caused the earth to swallow Korah. 28:79-81

      Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah have no hope of mercy. For such there is a painful doom. 29:23

      “Ye have chosen only idols instead of Allah … on the Day of Resurrection ye will deny each other and curse each other, and your abode will be the Fire, and ye will have no helpers.” 29:25

      “Bring Allah’s doom upon us.” 29:29

      The doom of hell will come upon disbelievers suddenly, when they least expect it. 29:53-55

      The worst thing you can do is tell a lie about Allah. Hell is the home of disbelievers. 29:68

      Allah seals the heart of disbelievers. (And then he burns them in the Fire.) 30:59

      Those who mislead others from Allah’s way and mock Islam will have a painful doom. 31:6-7

      Allah will give disbelievers a little comfort for a little while, and then he’ll torment them forever with a heavy doom. 31:23-24

      Allah will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together. 32:13

      Allah: Taste the doom of immortality because of what ye used to do. 32:14

      Those who used to deny the Fire will be tormented in it forever. 32:20

      The worst thing you can do is to deny the revelations of Allah. 32:22

      He hath prepared a painful doom for the unfaithful.” 33:8

      Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some, and enslaved others. 33:25-26

      Those who oppose Islam will be slain with a fierce slaughter. 33:60-61

      Allah has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming fire, wherein they will abide forever. 33:64-65

      The disbelievers will be burned in the Fire with a double torment. 33:66-68

      Those who challenge the revelations of Muhammad will have a painful doom. 34:5

      Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will be tormented. 34:8

      But some of the jinn Allah burned with flaming Fire. 34:12

      “They are filled with remorse when they behold the doom; and We place carcans on the necks of those who disbelieved.” 34:33

      Those who strive against Allah’s revelations will be brought to the doom. 34:38

      Those who worshipped the jinn will taste the doom of the Fire. 34:41

      Those who ignore Allah’s messenger (Muhammed) will face a terrific doom. 34:46

      Those who are cast into hell be terrified when they see that they have no escape. Then they will believe. But it will be too late. 34:51-52

      The devil is real. He and his followers will burn forever in the Fire. 35:6

      Those who disbelieve will have an awful doom. 35:7

      “Those who plot iniquities … will have an awful doom.” 35:10

      Disbelievers will burn forever in the fire of hell. Allah will keep them alive so that he can torture them forever. When they repent and ask for mercy, he will ignore them. 35:36-7

      Allah has blinded the disbelievers so that they cannot see the truth. So it don’t bother warning them. They will go to hell anyway. 36:8-10

      Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 36:31

      If Allah feels like it, he will drown everyone. 36:43

      Allah will burn the disbelievers in hell. 36:63-4

      Those who “did wrong” will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved). 37:22-23

      Those who refuse to believe in Muhammad’s revelations will face a painful doom. 37:31-38

      “Then looketh he and seeth him in the depth of hell.” 37:55

      If you’re not favored by Allah, you’re doomed. 37:57

      Those in hell must eat from a tree with the heads of devils, and then drink boiling water. After that they return to hell. 37:62-68

      Allah drowned everyone except Noah and his family in the flood. 37:82

      Allah tells Abraham in a dream to sacrifice his son. (But is the son Ishmael or Isaac?) 37:102

      Only the “single-minded slaves of Allah” will be saved from the doom. 37:127-8

      Allah killed everyone in Sodom except for Lot and his family. 37:136

      No one is against Allah, except those who burn in hell. 37:162-3

      Just wait a while and watch. The unbelievers will soon be destroyed in the doom. 37:176-9

      Allah has destroyed many generations. 38:3

      Those who doubt will soon taste Allah’s doom. 38:8

      Those who deny the messengers deserve doom. 38:14

      Those who wander from the way of Allah will have an awful doom. 38:26

      Those who disbelieve will burn in the Fire. 38:27

      David slashed their legs and necks (with Allah’s approval). 38:33

      The transgressors will roast in the Fire and be forced to drink boiling liquids followed by ice cold drinks. 38:55-9

      “Whoever did prepare this for us, oh, give him double portion of the Fire!” 38:61

      Iblis asks Allah to let him hang around and mislead humans. Allah allows him to do so, and Iblis leads all humans to hell except for the single-minded slaves. Allah agrees, and plans to fill hell with Iblis and his followers. 38:79-85

      Tell the disbelievers to enjoy themselves now, because later they will be owners of the Fire. 39:8

      Those who disobey Allah should fear his doom. 39:13

      The losers will be those who lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection. They will be surrounded by fire. 39:15-16

      No one will be able to help those that Allah torments in the Fire. 39:19

      “Wrong-doers” will be taunted while suffering in an “awful doom.” 39:24

      The doom will come upon those who deny what Allah has revealed. 39:25

      Allah will make non-believers “taste humiliation in the life of the world” and ” the doom of the Hereafter” which will be even worse. 39:26

      The worst thing you can do is tell a lie against Allah. The home of disbelievers is hell. 39:32

      “On whom there falleth everlasting doom.” 39:40

      “They … will seek to ransom themselves … from the awful doom.” 39:47

      Surrender to Allah before he sends the doom upon you suddenly. 39:54-55

      Disbelievers had their chance to believe. They will all suffer in an endless doom. 39:56-59

      Those who lie about Allah will be sent to hell and will have their faces blackened. 39:60

      Those who disbelieve will be driven into hell. 39:71-72

      Allah sent an awful punishment at the time of Noah. 40:5

      Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 40:6

      When the doom comes, the hearts of the doomed will choke in their throats, and no one will help them. 40:18

      Those who ignore Allah’s “clear proofs” will be seized and punished severely. 40:22

      Disbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 41:41-42

      The prodigals will be owners of the Fire. 40:43

      “A dreadful doom encompassed Pharaoh’s folk.” 40:45

      The doomed will be exposed to the Fire morning and evening. 40:46

      While burning in the Fire, they argue about who is to blame. 40:47

      Those in hell will beg to be relieved from the Fire’s torment for just a day. But the prayer of a disbeliever is in vain. 40:49-50

      Those who bicker about Allah’s revelations are filled with pride. 40:56

      Those who scorn Allah will go to hell. 40:60

      Those who deny the revelations of Allah are perverted. 40:63

      Those who deny the Scripture and Allah’s messengers will be dragged through boiling water and thrust into the Fire. 40:70-72

      Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my parnters that you used to believe in? 40:73

      Thus does Allah send astray the disbelievers (in his guidance). 40:74

      Those who scorn will go to hell. 40:76

      When they see Allah’s doom they will believe in Allah. But their faith will not save them. The disbelievers will be ruined. 40:84-85

      Allah will make life miserable for those who deny his revelations and then he will torment them forever in the Hereafter. And they will not be helped. 41:15-16

      “The doom of humiliation overtook them because of what they used to earn.” 41:17

      The enemies of Allah will be gathered into the Fire where their skin, ears, and eyes will testify against them. 41:19-20

      Non-muslims will be tormented forever in the Fire. Allah will not have any mercy on them. 41:24

      Allah will make those who disbelieve taste an awful doom. Their immortal home will be the Fire, since they denied Allah’s revelations. 41:27-28

      “Lo! those who distort Our revelations are not hid from Us. Is he who is hurled into the Fire better?” 41:40

      Those who disbelieve will taste hard punishment. 41:50

      While some lounge in the Garden, others will roast in the Flame. 42:7

      Those who argue about Allah will have his wrath upon them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 42:16

      For wrong-doers there is a painful doom. 42:21

      “And as for disbelievers, theirs will be an awful doom.” 42:26

      Allah sometimes kills people for misbehaving. 42:34

      “For such there is a painful doom.” 42:42

      Allah sends some people astray and then punishes them for it by burning them in the Fire. 42:44-46

      “And thou wilt see them exposed to (the Fire), made humble by disgrace.” 42:45

      Those who turn people away from Islam will “be sharers in the doom.” 43:37-39

      When the Egyptians angered Allah, he drowned them all. 43:55

      Those who argue and do wrong will have a painful doom that will come upon them suddenly. 43:65-66

      The guilty are tormented forever in hell. Allah will not relax their punishment. 43:74-75

      “But they will come to know.”
      Allah will torment disbelievers forever in hell. 43:88-89

      Those in torment will claim to believe and ask Allah for relief. But he will refuse since they will return to their disbelief. 44:11-16

      Those in hell must eat from a tree like molten brass that burns their bellies. Then boiling water will be poured on their heads. 44:43-48

      “He hath saved them [Muslims] from the doom of hell.”
      (Everyone else is going to hell.) 44:56

      Those who hear and reject Allah’s revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom. 45:7-8

      Those who joke about Allah’s revelations will go to hell. Theirs will be a shameful doom. 45:9-10

      Those who disbelieve in Allah’s revelations will have an awful doom of wrath. 45:11

      “Your habitation is the Fire, and there is none to help you.” 45:34

      Disbelievers will be rewarded with the ignominious doom of the Fire. 46:20

      Serve only Allah or face the doom of a tremendous day. 46:21

      The guilty will face a wind with a painful torment. 46:25

      Allah has destroyed entire towns. 46:27

      If you believe Muhammed, Allah will forgive some of your sins and protect you from the painful doom (that he plans to torture everyone else with). 46:31

      Allah will taunt the disbelievers that he torments in the fire, saying: “Taste the doom for that ye disbelieved.” 46:34

      Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 47:4

      Allah will damn the disbelievers and make all their actions fruitless. 47:8-9

      Disbelievers may eat and be happy now, but the Fire will be their final home. 47:12

      Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. 47:15

      Allah curses people by making them deaf and blind. 47:23

      Angels will gather them together and smite their faces and backs. 47:27

      Those who think an evil thought concerning Allah will be cursed and sent to hell by him. 48:6

      Allah has prepared a flame for the disbelievers. 48:13

      If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

      “Whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” 48:17

      But if you’re willing to fight for Allah, he will provide you with lots of booty. 48:19-20

      Allah punished those who disbelieved with a painful punishment. 48:25

      Those with Muhammad are ruthless toward disbelievers and merciful toward themselves. 48:29

      Allah will hurl those who believe in another god into a dreadful doom. 50:26

      “We say unto hell: Art thou filled? and it saith: Can there be more to come?”
      Allah talks to hell about it’s occupancy level. 50:30

      Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 50:36

      Accursed are the conjecturers who ask: When is the Day of Judgment? It is the day they will be tormented by the Fire. 51:10-14

      “We left behind therein a portent for those who fear a painful doom.” 51:37

      Lo! the doom of thy Lord will surely come to pass.” 52:7

      Those who deny the existence of hell will be thrust into its Fire. 52:11-16

      “Their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire.”
      (Everyone else is going to hell — and the believers are all okay with that.) 52:18

      “Allah hath been gracious unto us and hath preserved us from the torment of the breath of Fire.” 52:27

      Allah sent a storm of stones on Lot’s folk, killing all but Lot’s family. 54:34

      The suffering in hell will be more wretched and bitter than anything experienced on earth. 54:46-48

      Allah destroyed many people, but does anyone remember anymore? 54:51

      “There will be sent, against you both, heat of fire and flash of brass, and ye will not escape.” 55:35

      The guilty deny hell. But after they die they go circling between it and fierce, boiling water. 55:43-44

      But those on his left hand will face scorching wind, scalding water, and black smoke. 56:42-43

      Those who deny Allah and the Hereafter will eat from the Zaqqum tree and drink boiling water. 56:51-54

      Allah will welcome the rejecters and erring with boiling water and a roasting in the hell fire. 56:92-94

      Those who disbelieve or doubt the revelations of Allah will be face the doom. 57:13-14

      The home of disbelievers is the Fire, a hapless journey’s end. 57:15

      Those who disbelieve and deny Allah’s revelations are the owners of the fire. 57:19

      For disbelievers is a painful doom. 58:4

      For disbelievers is a shameful doom. 58:5

      Those who disobey Muhammed will go to hell. 58:8

      Don’t make friends with Allah’s enemies. For those who do so, Allah has prepared a dreadful doom. 58:14-15

      Those who turn others away from the way of Allah will have a shameful doom. They are rightful owners of the Fire. 58:16-17

      Allah cast fear into the hearts of the disbelieving People of the Scripture. Their home in the Hereafter will be the Fire. 59:2-3

      The disbelievers fear the believers more than Allah. 59:13

      The devil and disbelievers will be in the Fire. 59:16-17

      Allah loves those who fight for him. 61:4

      “O ye who believe! Shall I show you a commerce that will save you from a painful doom?” 61:10

      Those who disbelieve will have a painful doom. 64:5

      Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 64:10

      The fuel of the Fire is men and stones. 66:6

      Be stern with disbelievers. They are going to Hell anyway. 66:9

      Allah has prepared for the devils a doom of flame. 67:5

      Disbelievers will go to hell where they will hear its roaring and boiling. 67:6-7

      Who will protect the disbelievers from a painful doom? (Nobody) 67:28

      Those who consider the Quran to be “mere fables” will be branded on the nose.68:15-16

      Those who do not believe in Allah will be chained up and cast into hell-fire where they will eat filth. 69:30-35

      “Lo! it is the fire of hell Eager to roast.” 70:15

      Doom is about to fall on all disbelievers. Only worshippers (Muslims) and those who preserve their chastity (except with their wives and slave girls) will be spared from “the fires of hell” that are “eagar to roast.” 70:1-30

      “Lo! the doom of their Lord is that before which none can feel secure” (except for maybe those who are fearful of it). 70:27-28

      Disbelievers will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah. 70:36, 44

      Allah sent Noah to warn people about the painful doom he was planning to send. (It didn’t work out well; Allah sent it anyway.) 71:1

      Those that Allah drowned in Noah’s flood were then tortured forever in the Fire. 71:25

      Noah asked Allah to drown all the disbelievers. 71:26

      The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17

      Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23

      The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17

      Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23

      Allah will take care of the deniers. He will tie them up, burn them in a raging fire, and feed them food that chokes them. 73:11-13

      The last day will be a day of anguish for disbelievers. 74:9-10

      Those who are stubborn to Allah’s revelations will face a fearful doom. 74:16-17

      The fire of hell shrivels humans and spares nothing. 74:27-29

      Allah has appointed angels to tend the Fire and has prepared stumbling blocks for those who disbelieve. He sends some people (whoever he wants) astray. 74:31

      Those who pay attention to this life and ignore the Hereafter will suffer forever in hell. 75:20-29

      The doom is coming soon. 75:35

      Allah has prepared chains, manacles, and a raging fire for the disbelievers. 76:4

      Allah has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 76:31

      Allah destroyed “the former folk.” 77:16

      Woe unto the repudiators on that day! 77:19, 77:24, 77:28, 77:34, 77:40, 77:45, 77:49

      Depart unto that doom which ye used to deny.” 77:29

      Those who deny the revelations given to Muhammed will burn forever in hell. 78:21-30

      “Lo! We warn you of a doom at hand, a day whereon a man will look on that which his own hands have sent before, and the disbeliever will cry: ‘Would that I were dust!'” 78:40

      Those who rebel by choosing this life over the next will go to hell. 79:37-39

      The wicked will burn in hell forever. 82:14-16

      Those who reject Allah’s revelations will burn in hell. 83:10-17

      The disbelievers used to laugh at the believers. But the final laugh will be on them. 83:29-36

      Some folks will be thrown into a scorching fire. 84:11-12

      Disbelievers will be given a painful doom. 84:22-24

      “(Self-)destroyed were the owners of the ditch Of the fuel-fed fire.” 85:4-5

      Those who persecute Muslims, without repenting, will burn in hell. 85:10

      Those who are flung into the great Fire will neither live nor die. 87:12-13

      On that day many will be sad and weary. Scorched by the fire, drinking boiling water, with only bitter thorn-fruit to eat. 88:2-7

      Allah will punish disbelievers with the direst punishment. 88:23-24

      Allah poured the disaster of His punishment upon those who rebelled against him. 89:11-13

      Those who disbelieve Allah’s revelations will have the Fire placed over them like an awning. 90:19-20

      “Allah doomed them for their sin” and burned their houses. 91:14

      Those who deny Allah’s revelations must endure the flaming fire. 92:14-16

      Allah will grab those who deny His guidance by the forelock and call the guards of hell. 96:13-18

      Those who disbelieve will abide in the fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. 98:6

      What is the Calamity? It is a day when dead people’s bodies will be scattered like moths, consumed in a raging fire. 101:1-11

      Allah will show humans hellfire and then he will ask them about pleasure. 102:5-7

      Some rich folks will be flung into the Consuming One, the fire of Allah. 104:4-6

      Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber. 111:1-

      And so on…
      ***

      PA

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  6. Y.F. Says:

    Touché. Koranist, Your move. Perhaps there are 500 quotes in the Quoran that say that God be nice?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Thanks. Carried away by Koranist’s enthusiasm, I compiled many of the quotes in the Qur’an where Allah exhibits his robust character. It makes for fascinating reading, and brings up the basic question of the strategy of NATO in Afghanistan.

      As it is, NATO (mostly the USA) uses aerial bombing on civilian populations to defend the Afghan constitution (Obama also says that it is to fight the Qaeda, but the Qaeda, whatever is left of it, is in Pakistan, also bombed by the USA). But the Afghan constitution is the Qur’an, something that one can hope, someday, Mr. Obama will integrate in his knowldege base. Ditto in Pakistan. It’s not just Iran. Thus NATO is bombing to defend Allah.

      I will shortly expose Allah’s jokes and good humor, in His short, 80,000 word book, throughout the world’s Internet. Indeed, Allah and NATO share a common obsession with the massive usage of fire on innocent populations.
      PA

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