VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.


Who Deliberately Ignores public, published, calls to murder, in any IDEOLOGY, for example in a Superstitious Religion, become accomplices to any mayhem that Ideology inflicts.

Islam, fundamental, literal and unreconstructed (Wahhabism, or Shia as in Iran’s Islamist “Republic”) is inherently terroristic. (That some Judeo-Christian sects, like the Catholic Inquisition, were also terroristic is not besides the point: instead it proves it; Islam was indeed derived from Judeo-Christianism; they are all religion of Abraham, a psychopath ready to stab his innocent son, to satisfy his boss, an intrinsically and symbolically terroristic act of the basest order… It’s easy to see why oligarchs love Abraham: He ennobled the vilest act of ultimate violence just to please “The Boss” or “The Man“.)

Saladin, first Sultan of Egypt and Syria, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty, arrived at the conclusion that Fundamentalist Islam was incompatible with civilization, in the Twelfth Century. So Saladin outlawed it: Saladin had a war to win with the Crusaders, and he could not win it if he defended homicidal savagery.

The Ayyubid and Egyptian legal system then punished with the death penalty those advocating Literal Islam. Objecting that the Bible, the original inspiration of the Qur’an, makes the same advocacy of violence, is neither here, nor there, as no government in the last two millennia advocated governance according to the Bible (not even Roman emperor Theodosius’ terroristic Catholic regime in the 380s… which used the Evangels to terrorize the Roman People…)

Wahhab, an Islam fundamentalist, appeared in Arabia, five centuries later. Muhammad bin Saud, of the Saudi family, made him an offer Wahhab couldn’t refuse. Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab replied:

You are the settlement’s chief and wise man. I want you to grant me an oath that you will perform jihad against the unbelievers. In return you will be imam, leader of the Muslim community and I will be leader in religious matters.

The Saudis needed reasons to kill their enemies, Wahhab provided them. Ibn Abd al-Wahhab described followers of both the Christian and Jewish faiths as sorcerers who believed in devil worship, and cited a hadith of Muhammad stating that punishment for the sorcerer is `that he be struck with the sword.`Wahhab asserted that both religions had improperly made the graves of their prophet into places of worship and warned Muslims not to imitate this practice. Wahhab concluded that ‘The ways of the people of the book are condemned as those of polytheists.’

So let’s consider Literal, Fundamental Islam, promoted by many deliberately ignorant individuals as a “religion of peace” (and that is exactly how the violent propagandists of Islam want it to be described). Literal Islam background is uncomfortably similar to the Literal “Old Testament” of the Bible. Moreover the basic texts of Literal Islam include direct orders to hurt whom modern secular, United Nations Law as innocent citizens on the basis of subjective criterions such as the opinion one has of someone’s else religion or lack thereof.or protected categories. Here we focus on the Qur’an (Hadith are worse).

In truth, Fundamental Islam was, and is, a religion of war, an excuse to kill most types of people, from “gays” to “apostates”, to “hypocrites”, to all sorts of “unbelievers”, and that’s why it enabled those who invented it, 13 centuries ago, to conquer the largest empire, ever, in a few years. A remarkable military achievement by 40,000 fanatical, and lucky, warriors who submitted dozens of millions in the Mediterranean and Persia. Islam is fundamentally the ultimate war ideology: killing for God enables one to wait for Judgement Day in the most pleasant circumstances:

Quranchapter 3 (Al Imran), verse 169–170:[7]

Think not of those who are slain in Allah‘s way as dead. Nay, they live, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord; They rejoice in the bounty provided by Allah. And with regard to those left behind, who have not yet joined them (in their bliss), the (Martyrs) glory in the fact that on them is no fear, nor have they (cause to) grieve.”

I quote below some significant verses of violence in the most basic text of Islam, the Qur’an, which is, allegedly, the word of the so-called “God”, a creature controlling the universe.

(There is significantly worse violence in the Hadith, books complementing the Qur’an, containing various reports by contemporary witnesses, or witnesses of witnesses, of what Muhammad supposedly said.).

All together, those verses extracted from the Qur’an,  often often call for the most debasing, vicious, cruel or lethal violence, against most categories of people: “hypocrites”, “homosexuals”, “apostates”, “unbelievers”, “pagans”, women, and, of course, those who “insult” Islam, or its long dead celebrities. The possibility of killing people by accusing them to have deviated from the correct religion, and “heresy”, was inaugurated on an industrial scale by Roman Emperor Theodosius 1, in 380 CE, and propagated to Islam 280 years later (when Caliph Ali started to burn miscreants). This is why “Orthodox Catholicism” of the Fourth Century and Islam of the Seventh Century, seduce tyrants ever since.nts ever since.

I quote, you decide.

Many, if not most, “Muslims” have not read the Qur’an thoroughly: reading the Qur’an is not a requirement to embrace the faith. Let alone have they read the Qur’an so well that they contemplated what the Qur’an, read literally, really means in practice (easy lives for the bloodiest tyrants).

It’s not that easy to read the real Qur’an: versions of the “Qur’an” are circulated, where all the nasty stuff has been removed (such versions are often called “The Glorious Qur’an“). That propaganda works very well to convert those who are naive and unaware to Islam.

This situation of deep misinformation is encouraged by the command, which is explicitly found within the Qur’an, to LIE to non-Islamists. Thus a simple trick has been devised: a so-called “Glorious Qur’an” is shown to non-Islamists. In this “Glorious Qur’an”, the 7,000 words of extreme and sometimes lethal violence quoted below, have been expunged, leaving a mild version of Islam behind. Once the non-Islamists have been conned into viewing Islam to be nice and once they have embraced it as something civilized, the violence can be progressively revealed, and presented as a sane reaction to abuse. If they don’t get it, they can be told that renouncing Islam, apostasy, is punished by death.

Another factor of violence in Fundamental Islam is that the ideology is not just a superstitious religion, but an ideology of law and governance (which Christianism never was, except in the small Vatican state… hence the murderous torture of astronomer Giordano Bruno). “Sharia”, Islamist Law, differ appreciably from human ethology, and imposes the views of a so-called “god” on gender, equality, sexuality, and tolerance to belief and inquiry.

Indeed, the situation is not symmetric with Western Civilization, Christianism and the Bible… from which the Qur’an arose (with much desert added!) Indeed, in the Greco-Roman empire, and the Latin West which succeeded it, secular law was never subjugated to a superstitious religion; in particular, secular Roman law, 25 centuries old, and Salic law, legal foundations of the West, never had anything to do with the Bible. Whereas Islam, a superstitious religion, a variant of Judeo-Christianism, pretends to be all the law one needs! Tellingly, when it orders to kill homosexuals, a secular order, the Qur’an just quote “Lot“, in the Bible…

Time to Read the Qur’an, People, So You Learn What All Too Many Pontificate About Disingenuously. The Qur’an is an Important Book, full of preached violence, which most have not read while falsely claiming that they know it is all about peace. (This disinformation campaign, that Islam is good for you, and good for them, is part of a greater manipulation by oil men and their allies, which originated in Washington and New York, as early as the 1930s, and which was formalized in 1945, not be be addressed in the present essay… which was mostly written by “god”, because now here we quote:)

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Many, among the inferior, anti-intellectual types, brazenly identify quoting the Qur’an with “Islamophobia”. That, per se, is not just an attack against reason itself, but also a form of racism “Let them have Islam, like Marie-Antoinette said, let them have cake.” :

The subject is that sensitive, the lie, that enormous. A lie all too many Western “intellectuals” have become inured to. Some even identify criticizing some aspects, or ideas of Islam with “racism“. Some are very confused, while some are lying deliberately on an industrial scale. No confusion here. The clarity of reality, the transparency of quotes, instead, is embraced. Thus read, below, hundreds of quotes from the Qur’an, a very short book.

What is racist is to hold that ways and means which have been considered to be intolerable and insufferable to us, in Western Europe (and its numerous ex-colonies) since the worst depths of the Middle Ages, lethal religious obscurantism, is not just perfect for them, Muslims, but even ought to be what defines them. And what is racist is to view that lethal religious obscurantism, an inhuman cult, is perfectly appropriate for much of humanity.

Obama went to Cairo, and evoked the “Holy Qur’an” in glowing terms, several times. So did Grand Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Supreme “Guide” of Iran, in equally glowing terms, after many got killed in the streets of Teheran, while theocratic order was reestablished, under Khamenei’s command. As I explained in my analysis of the Qur’an’s Sura 4, verse 59, Khamenei was theologically correct. Khamenei is viewed by most Shiites as the functional equivalent of a Pope. Later Iranians were heard calling for the death of the “dictator”, Khamenei. Savage repression ensued, and now calm reigns.

The naive ones may be baffled by the violent behavior of the theocrats in Iran. Is not Islam all about peace, as Islamists always insist? Apparently it’s eternal peace, in the sense of Neda Agha-Soltan, a woman deliberately shot in the chest, one the many bystanders shot to death by the forces of theocracy. The idea? Kill the obviously innocent, and the slightly rebellious shall tremble.

Will Violence Set Below The Horizon With Islamism, As It Did With Christianism?

Will Violence Set Below The Horizon With Islamism, As It Did With Christianism?

The most sacred text of Islam, its very foundation, is the Qur’an, the exact word of God Himself, transmitted by His Messenger, Muhammad. We want to have an opinion about Islam? Let’s get to know the Holly Qur’an better! The Qur’an is in 114 chapters (“suras”) each made of “verses”. The first numbers below refer to the sura, the second numbers refer to the verse inside that particular sura. The length of suras diminishes dramatically as one proceeds further down the Qur’an (that’s why there are fewer quotes from higher sura numbers down below).

The Qur’an has around 80,000 words, so roughly a tenth of the Qur’an is found below. In a preceding work, I selected all the quotes in the Qur’an pertaining to women. (The Qur’an’s attitude to women is itself violent, abusive, exploitative, demeaning, and idiotic; however the argument can be made that it represented a progress, relative to what was practiced before in Arabia.)

This time, I tried to select quotes exhibiting Allah’s no non-sense, robust character. The Qur’an is mostly a list of orders from God (“Allah”), the exact same God as in the Bible, claims Muhammad, the Messenger, PBUH. (After they mention The Messenger, adoring Muslims like to add “PBUH”, the abbreviation for Peace Be Upon Him; the reason for this desperate, obsessive longing for peace will become obvious after reading the 7,200 words below.)

As God Himself points out in the Qur’an, you are presumptuous if you think you can judge God, or ask Him for His motives. Just believe what God tells you:

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QUOTES FROM THE QUR’AN, FOUNDATIONAL TEXT OF ISLAM:

“You know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: You Be apes, despised and hated!”– [Qur’an, Sura 2; verse 65]

A fire has been prepared for the disbelievers, whose fuel is men and stones.’ [Qur’an Sura. 2: verse. 24]

Disbelievers will be burned with fire.” [Koran, S. 2:39, v. 90]

“Jews are the greediest of all humankind. They’d like to live 1000 years. But they are going to hell.” [Koran, s. 2: v.96]

“Allah will leave the disbelievers alone for a while, but then he will compel them to the doom of Fire.” [Koran, s. 2:v. 126]

Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don’t kill them.) [Qur’an s.2:v. 191-2]

War is ordained by Allah, and all Muslims must be willing to fight, whether they like it or not.” [s. 2: v. 216]

Those who marry unbelievers will burn in the Fire.” [2:221

“Disbelievers worship false gods. They will burn forever in the Fire.” 2:257

“Those who practice usury … are rightful owners of the Fire.” 2:275

“Those who disbelieve will be fuel for the Fire.” 3:10

Those who disbelieve will be burnt in the Fire. 3:116

The Fire is prepared for disbelievers. 3:131

We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire (S 3: v 151)

If you die fighting for Allah, you’ll be rewarded in heaven. 3:157

“Is one who followeth the pleasure of Allah as one who hath earned condemnation from Allah, whose habitation is the Fire?”
Unbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 3:162

Think not of those, who are slain in the way of Allah, as dead.”
(Quoted by Osama bin Laden in his ‘letter to America’ regarding the 11 September 2001 attacks.) s. 3: v.169-171

Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56

Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74

Believers fight for Allah; disbelievers fight for the devil. So fight the minions of the devil. 4:76

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

If the unbelievers do not offer you peace, kill them wherever you find them. Against such you are given clear warrant. 4:91

Those who oppose the messenger and become unbelievers will go to hell. 4:115

Allah will lead them astray and they will go to hell. 4:119-121

For the hypocrites there will be a painful doom. 4:138

Allah will gather hypocrites and disbelievers into hell. 4:140

The hypocrites will be in the lowest part of hell and no one will help them there. 4:145

You must believe everything Allah and his messengers tell you. Those who don’t are disbelievers and will face a painful doom. 4:150-151

For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

God will guide disbelievers down a road that leads to everlasting hell. 4:168-169

Those who deny Islam will be losers in the Hereafter. 5:5

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of Hell. 5:10

The owners of the fire. That is the reward of evil-doers. 5:29

Those who make war with Allah and his messenger will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. That is how they will be treated in this world, and in the next they will have an awful doom. 5:33

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 5:36

Disbelievers will want to come out of the Fire, but will not. Their will be a lasting doom. 5:37

Cut off the hands of thieves. It is an exemplary punishment from Allah. 5:38

Allah makes some people sin. He will not cleanse their hearts. They will have ignominy in this world, and in the Hereafter an awful doom. 5:41

Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, and tooth for tooth. 5:45

Christians will be burned in the Fire. 5:72

Christians are wrong about the Trinity. For that they will have a painful doom. 5:73

Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

Disbelievers will be owners of hell-fire. 5:86

Allah will test believers to see if they are afraid. Those who fail a second test will suffer a a painful doom. 5:94

After agreeing to send down a table of food from heaven, Jesus warns his disciples that will catch holy hell if they ever stop believing. 5:115

Those who deny the truth of Islam will be punished by Allah. 6:5

“See the nature of the consequence for the rejecters!” 6:11

Many generations have been destroyed by Allah. 6:6 “Evil-doers flout the revelations of Allah.” 6:33

Allah will torment those how deny his revelations. 6:49

Those who disbelieve will be forced to drink boiling water, and will face a painful doom. 6:70

When nonbelievers die, the angels will deliver to them doom and degradation. 6:93

Allah allows some to disbelieve in the afterlife, and to take pleasure in their disbelief, so that he can torment them forever after they die. 6:113

Allah chooses to lead some astray, and he lays ignominy on those who disbelieve. 6:125

Allah will send everyone the Fire, except those he chooses to deliver. 6:128

Let the idolaters kill their children. It is Allah’s will. 6:137

The worst thing anyone can do is deny the revelations of Allah. Those who do so will be awarded an evil doom. 6:157

How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon, Our terror came unto them.

7:4-5 Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire. 7:36

Entire nations have entered the Fire. Some get a double torment. 7:38

“Taste the doom for what ye used to earn.” 7:39

Disbelievers will be excluded from heaven. Theirs will be a bed of hell. 7:40-41

Those in the fire will be taunted by those in the Garden. “So how’s it going down there? Are you enjoying the warmth of the Fire?” 7:44

Those in the Garden will plead with Allah not to be cast into the Fire. 7:47

Those in the Fire will cry out to those in heaven, saying: “Pour water on us.” But Allah has forbidden that to disbelievers. 7:50

Allah drowned everyone on earth (except Noah and his family) because they disbelieved. 7:64

Those who believe incorrectly will face the terror and wrath of Allah. 7:71

“We cut the root of those who denied Our revelations and were not believers.” 7:72

Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:78

Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah except Lot and his daughters.
7:83-84

“So the earthquake seized them.”
Allah killed the disbelievers with an earthquake. 7:90-91

“How can I sorrow for a people that rejected (truth)?”
Shu’eyb tells the Allah’s victims that they deserved to die for rejecting Islam. 7:93

“Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not.” (Unbelievers are never safe from Allah’s wrath.) 7:95-99

“We straightened Pharaoh’s folk with famine.”
(Allah sent a famine on all of the Egyptians to punish Pharaoh.) 7:130

“So We sent against them the flood and the locusts and the vermin and the frogs and the blood – a succession of clear signs.” 7:133

We drowned them in the sea: because they denied Our revelations.” 7:136

Those who worship the calf will suffer terror and humiliation from Allah. 7:152

“But those of them who … changed the word … We sent down upon them wrath from heaven.” 7:162

“Why preach ye to a folk whom Allah is about to destroy or punish with an awful doom?” 7:164

“When they forgot that whereof they had been reminded, We … visited [them] with dreadful punishment.” 7:165

Allah will punish the disbelieving Jews until the Day of Resurrection. 7:167

Allah has already sent many people and jinn to hell. They were worse than cows: they couldn’t see or hear and were neglectful. 7:179

“Allah … cut the root of the disbelievers.”
Allah destroyed the unbelievers. 8:7

Allah will throw fear into the hearts of the disbelievers, and smite their necks and fingers. 8:12

Disbelievers will be tormented in the Fire. 8:14

When you fight with disbelievers, do not retreat. Those who do will go to hell. 8:15-16

Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. 8:17

Taste of the doom because ye disbelieve. 8:35

Those who disbelieve will be gathered into hell. 8:36

“The wicked will He place piece upon piece, and heap them all together, and consign them unto hell.” 8:37

The angels smite the face and backs of disbelievers, saying: “Taste the punishment of burning!” 8:50

Don’t let the disbelievers think they can escape. They are your enemy and the enemy of Allah. 8:59-60

Had it not been for an ordinance of Allah which had gone before, an awful doom had come upon you.” 8:68

He [Allah] gave thee [Muhammad] power over them.”
(Allah gave Muhammad slaves as war booty.) 8:70-1

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve. 9:3

Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. 9:5

Don’t let idolaters tend the sanctuaries. Their works are in vain and they will be burned in the Fire. 9:17

“Count ye the slaking of a pilgrim’s thirst … as (equal to the worth of) him who believeth in Allah and the Last Day, and striveth in the way of Allah?”
Helping the poor is not as important as believing in Islam and fighting in holy wars. 9:19

Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to the rich and greedy Christian monks and Jewish rabbis. 9:34

Those who are tormented in the Fire will have their foreheads and backs branded. 9:35

If you refuse to fight, Allah will afflict you with a painful doom. 9:39

Disbelievers go to hell. 9:49

“Allah will afflict you with a doom from Him or at our hands.” 9:52

Those who vex the Prophet, for them there is a painful doom. 9:60

Those who oppose Allah and His messenger will burn in the fire of hell. 9:63

Allah promises hypocrites and disbelievers the fire of hell. Allah curses them. They will have a lasting torment. 9:68

Fight the disbelievers and hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. 9:73

Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world and the Hereafter. 9:74

“Theirs will be a painful doom.” 9:79

Those who refuse to give their wealth and lives to Allah will face the fire of hell. 9:81-83

For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. 9:90

Non-Muslim who pretend to believe (so they won’t be killed by Muslims) are unclean and will go to hell. 9:95

The unbelieving Arabs will be punished by Allah with an evil fortune. 9:97-98

“We shall chastise them twice; then they will be relegated to a painful doom.” 9:101

Those that ignore Allah will be thrown into the fire of hell. 9:109

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Qur’an. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111

Don’t pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. 9:113

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

Disbelievers will have a boiling drink and a painful doom. 10:4

(If you enjoy life and ignore Muhammad’s bullshit, Allah will torture you forever in the Fire after you die.) 10:7-8

Allah has destroyed entire generations. 10:13

“Ignominy overtaketh them – They have no protector from Allah – as if their faces had been covered with a cloak of darkest night. Such are rightful owners of the Fire.” 10:27

On the last day Allah will kill all the disbelievers (and then he will torture them forever in hell). 10:45

“His doom cometh unto you as a raid by night.” 10:50

The damned will feel remorse for what they have done, but it will not save them from the doom that Allah has prepared. 10:54

Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. 10:70

Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. 10:73

Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. 10:88

If you deny the revelations of Allah, you will be among the losers and will “see the painful doom.” 10:95-97

“The doom cannot be averted from them, and that which they derided will surround them.” 11:8

Allah sent a lasting doom on those who mocked Noah. 11:39

Allah will send a painful doom on several nations. 11:48

“Lo! there cometh unto them a doom which cannot be repelled.” 11:76

Allah killed everyone in Sodom and Gomorrah by dropping burning stones on them. 11:82-83

Lo! Is fear for you the doom of a besetting Day.” 11:84

“Ye will soon know on whom there cometh a doom that will abase him.” 11:93

“He … will lead them to the Fire for watering-place.” 11:98

“The doom of the Hereafter” 11:103

Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens and earth endure. 11:106-7

“Incline not toward those who do wrong lest the Fire touch you.” 11:113

Allah will fill hell with humans and jinn. 11:119

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire 13:5

Those who do not answer Allah’s call will go to hell. 13:18

Allah leads disbelievers astray while he torments them in this life. Then after they die, he makes them suffer even more pain in the doom of the Hereafter. 13:33-34

The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. 13:35

“When Allah doometh there is none that can postpone His doom.” 13:41

Woe unto the disbelievers. Theirs will be an awful doom. 14:2

Those who are in hell will be forced to drink festering water which they can hardly swallow. They will want to die, but they will not be able to. Theirs is a harsh doom. 14:16-17

There is no escape from Allah’s doom. 14:21

“Lo! for wrong-doers is a painful doom.” 14:22

Allah leads wrong-doers astray and then sends them to hell. 14:27-29

“They set up rivals to Allah that they may mislead (men) from His way. Say: Enjoy life (while ye may) for lo! your journey’s end will be the Fire.” 14:30

“Warn mankind of a day when the doom will come upon them.” 14:44

Those in hell will be chained together. Their clothing will be made of pitch and fire will cover their faces. 14:49-50

Iblis will lead humans astray. Only perfect Muslims will be safe from him. The rest will go to hell. 15:39-43

[A little background here: Iblis, created from fire, was furious against Allah, when Allah decided that man, created from clay, was its equal; Allah bestowed on Iblis the title of “Shaitan” (“Rebel”) and in order to test mankind and jinn alike, God allowed Iblis to roam the earth to attempt to convert others away from Allah’s path.]

Allah’s doom is a dolorous doom. 15:50

Allah made a roof fall in to kill unbelievers. “And the doom came on them whence they knew not.” 16:26

Disbelievers are evil and will dwell in hell forever. 16:27-29

Allah “will cause the earth to swallow” those who plan ill-deeds. The doom will come on them when they least expect it. 16:45

Theirs will be the Fire, and they will be abandoned.” 16:62

“Theirs will be a painful doom.” 16:63

“The Hour of Doom is but a twinkling of the eye.” 16:77

“When those who did wrong behold the doom, it will not be made light for them.” 16:85

Allah will add doom to doom for those who disbelieve. 16:88

Those who oppose Islam will face an awful doom. 16:94

Disbelievers will have a painful doom. 16:104

Those who loose their faith in Islam will face an awful doom. Allah’s wrath is upon them. 16:106

Those who invent lies against Allah will have a painful doom. 16:116-7

Allah made hell to be a dungeon for disbelievers. 17:8

Allah has prepared a painful doom for those who disbelieve in the Hereafter. 17:10

Allah destroyed entire towns. 17:16

How many generations Allah has destroyed since Noah! 17:17

Allah intends to burn people in hell. 17:18

“Set not up with Allah any other god, lest thou be cast into hell.” 17:39

“Lo! The doom of thy Lord is to be shunned.” 17:57

Allah will destroy every town before the Day of Resurrection. 17:58

Whoever follows Iblis will be cast into hell. 17:63

Allah will send disbelievers astray. Then he’ll burn them in hell, increasing the flames from time to time. 17:97-98

Allah has prepared a Fire for the disbelievers. When they want a shower, Allah will give them a shower of molten lead to burn their faces. 18:29

Christians will cry out to Allah’s “partners”, but they won’t hear them; Allah will send them to their doom. 18:52

Those who are condemned to the Fire know they will have no way to escape. 18:53

Nothing prevents non-Muslims from believing in Islam. So it’s their own fault when they are sent to their doom. 18:55

There is an appointed time in which the doomed will find no escape. 18:58

Allah has destroyed many towns. 18:59

On a certain day, Allah will present hell, in plain view, to the disbelievers. 18:100

Allah will welcome the disbelievers into hell. 18:102

The good works of disbelievers are all in vain. They will go to hell anyway. 18:104-105

Hell is the reward for disbelievers because they made a jest of Allah’s revelations and messengers. 18:106

“Woe unto the disbelievers from the meeting of an awful Day.”
Jesus was not the Son of God. Those who say he was (Christians) are going to hell. 19:35-37

Allah will pluck out from every sect those who should burn in hell. 19:69-70

“How many a generation have We destroyed before them?”
(Allah brags about destroying entire generations.) 19:74

Allah will prolong the lives of non-believers so they can see their punishment, either in this world or in the Hour of doom. 19:75

Allah will record what disbelievers say and then prolong their torment. 19:77-79

Allah has sent the devils on the disbelievers to confuse them. 19:83

Allah will “drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd.” 19:86

Allah has destroyed many generations. 19:98

Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 20:6

The people cried out for mercy, but Allah killed them anyway. 20:15

Lo! It hath been revealed unto us that the doom will be for him who denieth and turneth away.” 20:48

“There [in hell] he will neither die nor live.” 20:74

Those who do not believe Allah’s revelations will face doom in the Hereafter. 20:127

Allah has destroyed many generations. 20:128

Allah destroyed entire towns, yet the people still disbelieved. 21:6

“And one of them who should say: Lo! I am a god beside Him, that one We should repay with hell.” 21:29

Disbelievers will not be able to put out the fire on their faces and backs. They will be stupefied and no one will help them. 21:39-40

“Fear the Lord … and dread the Hour of doom.” 21:49

Every person alive at the time of the flood was evil. So Allah drowned them all. 21:77

The disbelievers will stare in terror at what Allah has in store for them. 21:97-99

When the doom of Allah comes, pregnant women will suffer miscarriages, and men will act like they are drunk. 22:1-2

The devil will guide some to the punishment of the Flame. 22:3-4

Those who turn from the way of Allah will face ignominy in this world and burning in the next. 22:9

Whoever thinks that Allah will not give Muhammad victory should go hang himself. 22:15

“There are many unto whom the doom is justly due. Allah doeth what he will.” 22:18

Disbelievers will wear garments of fire, boiling fluid will be poured on their heads, their bellies and skin will be melted, they will be tormented with iron hooks, and when they try to escape they will be driven back with the taunt: Taste the doom of burning. 22:19-22

Allah will provide the disbelievers with a painful doom. 22:25

How many towns Allah has destroyed! 22:45

“They will bid thee hasten on the Doom.” 22:47

Those who disregard Allah’s revelations are the owners of the Fire. 22:51

“Those who disbelieve will not cease to be in doubt thereof until the Hour come upon them unawares, or there come unto them the doom of a disastrous day.” 22:55

Those who disbelieve Allah’s revelations will have a shameful doom. 22:57

Those who disbelieve Allah’s revelations will burn in the Fire. 22:72

Allah told Noah not to bother pleading for the people he was about to drown. 23:27

Those who don’t believe in the Hereafter will receive extreme punishment from Allah. 23:74-77

“Those whose scales are light are those who lose their souls, in hell abiding.” 23:103

When fire burns their faces, they will be glum. 23:104

Scourge adulterers and adulteresses with 100 stripes. Do not show them any pity. Have a party of believers watch the punishment. 24:2

Those who spread slander will face an awful doom. 24:11

Those who murmur will face an awful doom. 24:14

Those who traduce virtuous, believing women … cursed are they in the world and the Hereafter. Theirs will be an awful doom.” 24:23

Disbelievers will never escape the Fire that will be their home. 24:57

Those who deny the coming of the Hour will be chained together and burned with fire. They will pray for their own destruction. 25:11-13

Allah will force the evil-doers to taste great torment. 25:19

It will be a hard day for disbelievers and wrong-doers. They will gnaw on their hands and wish they had chosen Islam. 25:26-27

“Those who will be gathered on their faces unto hell” 25:34

Those who deny Muhammad’s revelations will be destroyed. 25:36

Allah drowned everyone in the flood of Noah, and has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 25:37

“They [the non-Muslims] will know, when they behold the doom, who is more astray as to the road.” 25:42

“The doom of hell; lo! the doom thereof is anguish.” 25:65

Those who cry out to another god with Allah will be tormented doubly in hell. 25:68-69

“Hell will appear plainly to the erring.” 26:91

Allah killed those that ignored Hud’s warnings. 26:124-139

Allah destroyed the people in Lot’s town with a dreadful rain. 26:172-3

Many will not believe until they see the painful doom. 26:201

Those who believe in another god are doomed. 26:213

Allah leads those who do not believe in the Hereafter astray by making things work out OK in this life, so that he can torment them forever in the next. They will get the worst punishment and will be the greatest losers. 27:4-5

“Allah destroyed them and their people, every one.” 27:51

Allah sent a dreadful rain on “those who stayed behind.” 27:58

Whoever does something wrong will be thrown into the Fire. 27:90

“We made them (evil-doers) patterns that invite unto the Fire, and on the Day of Resurrection they will not be helped.” 28:40-42

Allah has completely destroyed many communities. 28:58

Allah will taunt Christians on the day of their doom, saying: Where are My partners whom ye imagined? 28:62-64

Allah caused the earth to swallow Korah. 28:79-81

Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah have no hope of mercy. For such there is a painful doom. 29:23

“Ye have chosen only idols instead of Allah … on the Day of Resurrection ye will deny each other and curse each other, and your abode will be the Fire, and ye will have no helpers.” 29:25

“Bring Allah’s doom upon us.” 29:29

The doom of hell will come upon disbelievers suddenly, when they least expect it. 29:53-55

The worst thing you can do is tell a lie about Allah. Hell is the home of disbelievers. 29:68

Allah seals the heart of disbelievers. (And then he burns them in the Fire.) 30:59

Those who mislead others from Allah’s way and mock Islam will have a painful doom. 31:6-7

Allah will give disbelievers a little comfort for a little while, and then he’ll torment them forever with a heavy doom. 31:23-24

Allah will fill hell with the jinn and mankind together. 32:13

Allah: Taste the doom of immortality because of what ye used to do. 32:14

Those who used to deny the Fire will be tormented in it forever. 32:20

The worst thing you can do is to deny the revelations of Allah. 32:22

He hath prepared a painful doom for the unfaithful.” 33:8

Allah cast panic into the hearts of the disbelievers. He killed some, and enslaved others. 33:25-26

Those who oppose Islam will be slain with a fierce slaughter. 33:60-61

Allah has cursed the disbelievers, and has prepared for them a flaming fire, wherein they will abide forever. 33:64-65

The disbelievers will be burned in the Fire with a double torment. 33:66-68

Those who challenge the revelations of Muhammad will have a painful doom. 34:5

Those who disbelieve in the Hereafter will be tormented. 34:8

But some of the jinn Allah burned with flaming Fire. 34:12

“They are filled with remorse when they behold the doom; and We place carcans on the necks of those who disbelieved.” 34:33

Those who strive against Allah’s revelations will be brought to the doom. 34:38

Those who worshipped the jinn will taste the doom of the Fire. 34:41

Those who ignore Allah’s messenger (Muhammad) will face a terrific doom. 34:46

Those who are cast into hell be terrified when they see that they have no escape. Then they will believe. But it will be too late. 34:51-52

The devil is real. He and his followers will burn forever in the Fire. 35:6

Those who disbelieve will have an awful doom. 35:7

“Those who plot iniquities … will have an awful doom.” 35:10

Disbelievers will burn forever in the fire of hell. Allah will keep them alive so that he can torture them forever. When they repent and ask for mercy, he will ignore them. 35:36-7

Allah has blinded the disbelievers so that they cannot see the truth. So it don’t bother warning them. They will go to hell anyway. 36:8-10

Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 36:31

If Allah feels like it, he will drown everyone. 36:43

Allah will burn the disbelievers in hell. 36:63-4

Those who “did wrong” will go to hell, and their wives will go to hell with them (no matter how they behaved). 37:22-23

Those who refuse to believe in Muhammad’s revelations will face a painful doom. 37:31-38

“Then looketh he and seeth him in the depth of hell.” 37:55

If you’re not favored by Allah, you’re doomed. 37:57

Those in hell must eat from a tree with the heads of devils, and then drink boiling water. After that they return to hell. 37:62-68

Allah drowned everyone except Noah and his family in the flood. 37:82

Allah tells Abraham in a dream to sacrifice his son. (But is the son Ishmael or Isaac?) 37:102

Only the “single-minded slaves of Allah” will be saved from the doom. 37:127-8

Allah killed everyone in Sodom except for Lot and his family. 37:136

No one is against Allah, except those who burn in hell. 37:162-3

Just wait a while and watch. The unbelievers will soon be destroyed in the doom. 37:176-9

Allah has destroyed many generations. 38:3

Those who doubt will soon taste Allah’s doom. 38:8

Those who deny the messengers deserve doom. 38:14

Those who wander from the way of Allah will have an awful doom. 38:26

Those who disbelieve will burn in the Fire. 38:27

David slashed their legs and necks (with Allah’s approval). 38:33

The transgressors will roast in the Fire and be forced to drink boiling liquids followed by ice cold drinks. 38:55-9

“Whoever did prepare this for us, oh, give him double portion of the Fire!” 38:61

Iblis asks Allah to let him hang around and mislead humans. Allah allows him to do so, and Iblis leads all humans to hell except for the single-minded slaves. Allah agrees, and plans to fill hell with Iblis and his followers. 38:79-85

Tell the disbelievers to enjoy themselves now, because later they will be owners of the Fire. 39:8

Those who disobey Allah should fear his doom. 39:13

The losers will be those who lose themselves and their families on the Day of Resurrection. They will be surrounded by fire. 39:15-16

No one will be able to help those that Allah torments in the Fire. 39:19

“Wrong-doers” will be taunted while suffering in an “awful doom.” 39:24

The doom will come upon those who deny what Allah has revealed. 39:25

Allah will make non-believers “taste humiliation in the life of the world” and ” the doom of the Hereafter” which will be even worse. 39:26

The worst thing you can do is tell a lie against Allah. The home of disbelievers is hell. 39:32

“On whom there falleth everlasting doom.” 39:40

“They … will seek to ransom themselves … from the awful doom.” 39:47

Surrender to Allah before he sends the doom upon you suddenly. 39:54-55

Disbelievers had their chance to believe. They will all suffer in an endless doom. 39:56-59

Those who lie about Allah will be sent to hell and will have their faces blackened. 39:60

Those who disbelieve will be driven into hell. 39:71-72

Allah sent an awful punishment at the time of Noah. 40:5

Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 40:6

When the doom comes, the hearts of the doomed will choke in their throats, and no one will help them. 40:18

Those who ignore Allah’s “clear proofs” will be seized and punished severely. 40:22

Disbelievers will burn forever in the Fire. 41:41-42

The prodigals will be owners of the Fire. 40:43

“A dreadful doom encompassed Pharaoh’s folk.” 40:45

The doomed will be exposed to the Fire morning and evening. 40:46

While burning in the Fire, they argue about who is to blame. 40:47

Those in hell will beg to be relieved from the Fire’s torment for just a day. But the prayer of a disbeliever is in vain. 40:49-50

Those who bicker about Allah’s revelations are filled with pride. 40:56

Those who scorn Allah will go to hell. 40:60

Those who deny the revelations of Allah are perverted. 40:63

Those who deny the Scripture and Allah’s messengers will be dragged through boiling water and thrust into the Fire. 40:70-72

Allah will taunt the Christians in hell, saying: Where are all my partners that you used to believe in? 40:73

Thus does Allah send astray the disbelievers (in his guidance). 40:74

Those who scorn will go to hell. 40:76

When they see Allah’s doom they will believe in Allah. But their faith will not save them. The disbelievers will be ruined. 40:84-85

Allah will make life miserable for those who deny his revelations and then he will torment them forever in the Hereafter. And they will not be helped. 41:15-16

“The doom of humiliation overtook them because of what they used to earn.” 41:17

The enemies of Allah will be gathered into the Fire where their skin, ears, and eyes will testify against them. 41:19-20

Non-Muslims will be tormented forever in the Fire. Allah will not have any mercy on them. 41:24

Allah will make those who disbelieve taste an awful doom. Their immortal home will be the Fire, since they denied Allah’s revelations. 41:27-28

“Lo! those who distort Our revelations are not hid from Us. Is he who is hurled into the Fire better?” 41:40

Those who disbelieve will taste hard punishment. 41:50

While some lounge in the Garden, others will roast in the Flame. 42:7

Those who argue about Allah will have his wrath upon them. Theirs will be an awful doom. 42:16

For wrong-doers there is a painful doom. 42:21

“And as for disbelievers, theirs will be an awful doom.” 42:26

Allah sometimes kills people for misbehaving. 42:34

“For such there is a painful doom.” 42:42

Allah sends some people astray and then punishes them for it by burning them in the Fire. 42:44-46

“And thou wilt see them exposed to (the Fire), made humble by disgrace.” 42:45

Those who turn people away from Islam will “be sharers in the doom.” 43:37-39

When the Egyptians angered Allah, he drowned them all. 43:55

Those who argue and do wrong will have a painful doom that will come upon them suddenly. 43:65-66

The guilty are tormented forever in hell. Allah will not relax their punishment. 43:74-75

“But they will come to know.”
Allah will torment disbelievers forever in hell. 43:88-89

Those in torment will claim to believe and ask Allah for relief. But he will refuse since they will return to their disbelief. 44:11-16

Those in hell must eat from a tree like molten brass that burns their bellies. Then boiling water will be poured on their heads. 44:43-48

“He hath saved them [Muslims] from the doom of hell.”
(Everyone else is going to hell.) 44:56

Those who hear and reject Allah’s revelations are sinful liars. Give them tidings of a painful doom. 45:7-8

Those who joke about Allah’s revelations will go to hell. Theirs will be a shameful doom. 45:9-10

Those who disbelieve in Allah’s revelations will have an awful doom of wrath. 45:11

“Your habitation is the Fire, and there is none to help you.” 45:34

Disbelievers will be rewarded with the ignominious doom of the Fire. 46:20

Serve only Allah or face the doom of a tremendous day. 46:21

The guilty will face a wind with a painful torment. 46:25

Allah has destroyed entire towns. 46:27

If you believe Muhammad, Allah will forgive some of your sins and protect you from the painful doom (that he plans to torture everyone else with). 46:31

Allah will taunt the disbelievers that he torments in the fire, saying: “Taste the doom for that ye disbelieved.” 46:34

Smite the necks of the disbelievers whenever you fight against them. Those who die fighting for Allah will be rewarded. 47:4

Allah will damn the disbelievers and make all their actions fruitless. 47:8-9

Disbelievers may eat and be happy now, but the Fire will be their final home. 47:12

Those in the Garden will drink delicious wine, while those in the Fire will drink boiling water that will tear apart their intestines. 47:15

Allah curses people by making them deaf and blind. 47:23

Angels will gather them together and smite their faces and backs. 47:27

Those who think an evil thought concerning Allah will be cursed and sent to hell by him. 48:6

Allah has prepared a flame for the disbelievers. 48:13

If you refuse to fight for Allah, he will punish you with a painful doom. 48:16

“Whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom.” 48:17

But if you’re willing to fight for Allah, he will provide you with lots of booty. 48:19-20

Allah punished those who disbelieved with a painful punishment. 48:25

Those with Muhammad are ruthless toward disbelievers and merciful toward themselves. 48:29

Allah will hurl those who believe in another god into a dreadful doom. 50:26

“We say unto hell: Art thou filled? and it saith: Can there be more to come?”
Allah talks to hell about it’s occupancy level. 50:30

Allah has destroyed many entire generations. 50:36

Accursed are the conjecturers who ask: When is the Day of Judgment? It is the day they will be tormented by the Fire. 51:10-14

“We left behind therein a portent for those who fear a painful doom.” 51:37

Lo! the doom of thy Lord will surely come to pass.” 52:7

Those who deny the existence of hell will be thrust into its Fire. 52:11-16

“Their Lord hath warded off from them the torment of hell-fire.”
(Everyone else is going to hell — and the believers are all okay with that.) 52:18

“Allah hath been gracious unto us and hath preserved us from the torment of the breath of Fire.” 52:27

Allah sent a storm of stones on Lot’s folk, killing all but Lot’s family. 54:34

The suffering in hell will be more wretched and bitter than anything experienced on earth. 54:46-48

Allah destroyed many people, but does anyone remember anymore? 54:51

“There will be sent, against you both, heat of fire and flash of brass, and ye will not escape.” 55:35

The guilty deny hell. But after they die they go circling between it and fierce, boiling water. 55:43-44

But those on his left hand will face scorching wind, scalding water, and black smoke. 56:42-43

Those who deny Allah and the Hereafter will eat from the Zaqqum tree and drink boiling water. 56:51-54

Allah will welcome the rejecters and erring with boiling water and a roasting in the hell fire. 56:92-94

Those who disbelieve or doubt the revelations of Allah will be face the doom. 57:13-14

The home of disbelievers is the Fire, a hapless journey’s end. 57:15

Those who disbelieve and deny Allah’s revelations are the owners of the fire. 57:19

For disbelievers is a painful doom. 58:4

For disbelievers is a shameful doom. 58:5

Those who disobey Muhammad will go to hell. 58:8

Don’t make friends with Allah’s enemies. For those who do so, Allah has prepared a dreadful doom. 58:14-15

Those who turn others away from the way of Allah will have a shameful doom. They are rightful owners of the Fire. 58:16-17

Allah cast fear into the hearts of the disbelieving People of the Scripture. Their home in the Hereafter will be the Fire. 59:2-3

The disbelievers fear the believers more than Allah. 59:13

The devil and disbelievers will be in the Fire. 59:16-17

Allah loves those who fight for him. 61:4

“O ye who believe! Shall I show you a commerce that will save you from a painful doom?” 61:10

Those who disbelieve will have a painful doom. 64:5

Those who disbelieve are the owners of the Fire. 64:10

The fuel of the Fire is men and stones. 66:6

Be stern with disbelievers. They are going to Hell anyway. 66:9

Allah has prepared for the devils a doom of flame. 67:5

Disbelievers will go to hell where they will hear its roaring and boiling. 67:6-7

Who will protect the disbelievers from a painful doom? (Nobody) 67:28

Those who consider the Qur’an to be “mere fables” will be branded on the nose.68:15-16

Those who do not believe in Allah will be chained up and cast into hell-fire where they will eat filth. 69:30-35

“Lo! it is the fire of hell Eager to roast.” 70:15

Doom is about to fall on all disbelievers. Only worshippers (Muslims) and those who preserve their chastity (except with their wives and slave girls) will be spared from “the fires of hell” that are “eager to roast.” 70:1-30

“Lo! the doom of their Lord is that before which none can feel secure” (except for maybe those who are fearful of it). 70:27-28

Disbelievers will enter hell with frantic with fear, knowing they will be tortured forever by Allah. 70:36, 44

Allah sent Noah to warn people about the painful doom he was planning to send. (It didn’t work out well; Allah sent it anyway.) 71:1

Those that Allah drowned in Noah’s flood were then tortured forever in the Fire. 71:25

Noah asked Allah to drown all the disbelievers. 71:26

The fires of hell will be fueled with the bodies of idolators and unbelievers. They will experience an ever-greater torment. 72:15-17

Those who disobey Allah and his messenger will dwell forever in the fire of hell. 72:23

Allah will take care of the deniers. He will tie them up, burn them in a raging fire, and feed them food that chokes them. 73:11-13

The last day will be a day of anguish for disbelievers. 74:9-10

Those who are stubborn to Allah’s revelations will face a fearful doom. 74:16-17

The fire of hell shrivels humans and spares nothing. 74:27-29

Allah has appointed angels to tend the Fire and has prepared stumbling blocks for those who disbelieve. He sends some people (whoever he wants) astray. 74:31

Those who pay attention to this life and ignore the Hereafter will suffer forever in hell. 75:20-29

The doom is coming soon. 75:35

Allah has prepared chains, manacles, and a raging fire for the disbelievers. 76:4

Allah has prepared a painful doom for evil-doers. 76:31

Allah destroyed “the former folk.” 77:16

Woe unto the repudiators on that day! 77:19, 77:24, 77:28, 77:34, 77:40, 77:45, 77:49

Depart unto that doom which ye used to deny.” 77:29

Those who deny the revelations given to Muhammad will burn forever in hell. 78:21-30

“Lo! We warn you of a doom at hand, a day whereon a man will look on that which his own hands have sent before, and the disbeliever will cry: ‘Would that I were dust!’” 78:40

Those who rebel by choosing this life over the next will go to hell. 79:37-39

The wicked will burn in hell forever. 82:14-16

Those who reject Allah’s revelations will burn in hell. 83:10-17

The disbelievers used to laugh at the believers. But the final laugh will be on them. 83:29-36

Some folks will be thrown into a scorching fire. 84:11-12

Disbelievers will be given a painful doom. 84:22-24

“(Self-)destroyed were the owners of the ditch Of the fuel-fed fire.” 85:4-5

Those who persecute Muslims, without repenting, will burn in hell. 85:10

Those who are flung into the great Fire will neither live nor die. 87:12-13

On that day many will be sad and weary. Scorched by the fire, drinking boiling water, with only bitter thorn-fruit to eat. 88:2-7

Allah will punish disbelievers with the direst punishment. 88:23-24

Allah poured the disaster of His punishment upon those who rebelled against him. 89:11-13

Those who disbelieve Allah’s revelations will have the Fire placed over them like an awning. 90:19-20

“Allah doomed them for their sin” and burned their houses. 91:14

Those who deny Allah’s revelations must endure the flaming fire. 92:14-16

Allah will grab those who deny His guidance by the forelock and call the guards of hell. 96:13-18

Those who disbelieve will abide in the fire of hell. They are the worst of created beings. 98:6

What is the Calamity? It is a day when dead people’s bodies will be scattered like moths, consumed in a raging fire. 101:1-11

Allah will show humans hellfire and then he will ask them about pleasure. 102:5-7

Some rich folks will be flung into the Consuming One, the fire of Allah. 104:4-6

Abu Lahab will die and be plunged in flaming Fire. His wife will have on her neck a halter of palm fiber. 111:1-

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This was the Qur’an, the most basic, sacred text of Islam, because it is the word of God Himself. Who is this “god”, and do we want to trust him with nuclear bombs? (Reminder: the author supports pacific nuclear energy, even in Iran, and I have explained why this is no contradiction, but complementary.)

There are many other basic texts in Islam, such as the Hadith (gossip about what Muhammad, and other sacred ones, were heard saying, supposedly) and the Sunna (gossip on how Muhammad lived). They are more of the same. Example:

Narrated Al-Mughira: I heard the Prophet Muhammad saying, “Ascribing false things to me is not like ascribing false things to anyone else. Whosoever tells a lie against me intentionally then surely let him occupy his seat in Hell-Fire.” … (Sahih al-Bukhari 2.378, cf. 1.106-108).

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Conclusion:

The humorist and interviewer Steven Colbert asked the singer formerly known as “Cat Stevens” why he became a Muslim. Cat Stevens (born Steven Demetre Georgiou) now calls himself “Yusuf Islam”. Yusuf answered that what impresses him the most in Islam is that Muslims say “Salam” to each other, and “Salam” means “peace”. Thus, said “Yusuf” when you are around Muslims all you hear all day long is “Peace”, “Peace”, “Peace”. But why to obsess about peace? Is it compromised? How come one has to call for it constantly? Is not the one who is beaten up calling for peace? Well the text above was answer enough.

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Some object that the same sort of mayhem is prescribed in the Bible. Of course: the Quran, and Islam, originate with the Bible. So one cannot say that the Quran is good because the Bible is bad… as many do. Instead, the Quran is bad because the Bible is bad. Here are some quotes from the Old Testament of the Bible:

“This is what the Lord Almighty says… ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” 1 Samuel 15:3

“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” – Psalm 137:9

“So the man took his concubine and sent her outside to them, and they raped her and abused her throughout the night, and at dawn they let her go. At daybreak the woman went back to the house where her master was staying, fell down at the door and lay there until daylight. When her master got up in the morning and opened the door of the house and stepped out to continue on his way, there lay his concubine, fallen in the doorway of the house, with her hands on the threshold. He said to her, ‘Get up; let’s go.’ But there was no answer. Then the man put her on his donkey and set out for home.” Judges 19:25-28

“Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.” – Ephesians 5:22

“When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.” – Exodus 21: 7-8

Apologists of Judeo-Christo-Islamism call that Abrahamist religion a “civilization”… When actually it’s just a superstition grafted on deeper civilizations. Another line of apology is to pretend that vile and violent quotes are taken out of context. Naturally, all and any text can be distorted by being quoted out of context. However here, “God” is talking, His word is supposed to absolute. If God could be taken out of context, should not he have corrected this, and warned against out-of-context interpretations? Sometimes He does, kind of, but not much. So this is a partisan objection.

Abrahamist religions owe their success to their violence: they constitute metaphysics for genocidal  and tyrannical policies. And that’s symbolized by the ultimate “believer” of Abrahamism, Abraham, agreed that it was more important to obey his insanely criminal boss, God, also known as Allah, and kill his own innocent child. How much more evil a religion could one create?… Short of enacting human sacrifices?

And if human sacrifices are good, or something one should be ready to engage in, to please the boss, if He orders it, should not thermonuclear war be a good thing too?

Patrice Ayme

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81 Responses to “VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.”

  1. Chris Doyle Says:

    Excellent comment in the NYT today following Paul Krugman’s article! Thanks for articulating exactly what I also perceive happening. I read your comment to the tiresome drone of Rush Limbaugh’s daily dose of bile coming from a co-worker’s desk radio (a person who is a unionized worker {I’m not} and has glorified pictures of Reagan adorning her cubicle)…..the end of the republic has arrived.

    Great blog, too.

    Chris Doyle SF, Ca.

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  2. Dressing Islam For Western Exploitation « Some of Patrice Ayme’s Thoughts Says:

    […] People such as Nussbaum talk about Islam, but never obviously never studied the Qur’an, a very short book (400 pages, about). That was the book Aisha went to war against. According to Islam Fundamentalists of the violent type, there are about 200 hundred very clear passages commanding extreme violence in the Qur’an. One can capture women in war ("those who you right hand possess") and "do whatever you please with them". Including enslaving them, and having sex with the girls (it’s completely explicit in the Qur’an). Anyway, I have put some of the violent quotes together, somewhere else on this site, no need to go read bin Laden himself (which I recommend doing). So please consult the Qur’an itself as found in: https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  5. Sandy Says:

    This appears to be material originally found in the Old and New Testaments, which are quite bloody-minded. I am not sure who did the translations, but the word “bullshit” occurs in the middle somewhere, which I thought was funny in context. By the way, the Salaam is the same as the Hebrew Shalom greeting. Cat Stevens is the usual ignorant idiot who finds Islam attractive for stupid reasons.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Sandy: That may have been, to a great extent material found in the Bible, but the fact is I gleaned it myself in the Qur’an. That shows that the Qur’an is a version of the Bible. And it ought to be: Muhammad was out to teach Jews and Xtians what the true faith of Abraham and company was (so he said!).

      I am surprised that the word “bullshit” appeared, but I gathered this several years ago… And “bullshit” is well within the vocabulary genre of Allah, who is unafraid of saying things the way he sees them!

      Many ignorant idiots identify Islamophobia with racism, and thus identify Islamophilia with anti-racism. “Cat Stevens” (not his real name either), is among them…
      PA

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  7. Martin Lack Says:

    An amazing compilation of quotes. Clearly, if so inclined, one could easily compile a list of quotes from the Bible that would also paint the Judeo-Christian deity in a very unpleasant light… Nevertheless, there are many things that trouble me about Islam; not least the way it seems to deliberately invert many aspects of Western culture – such as its use of black and white; and yes and no… Some of my friends also see a message in the name of the current Capital city of Pakistan; but I could not possibly comment… However, at the end of the day, it simply does not make sense to say that “all religions lead to God”

    I do not think that God is a paranoid schizophrenic that cannot make up his mind about anything… Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Zoastrians, Hindus, Buddhists, Mormons, JWs, 7th Day Adventists, and Christadelphians cannot all be right… If God did become a Man once to save (by faith) those who cannot save themselves (by works) then what possible need would he have for a Plan B, C, D, E, or F…?

    I have therefore always found the words of St Paul in 1 Corinthians 15:17 very challenging (“…if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; [and]you are still [lost] in your sins”); and thus I do not see how anyone who truly understands the Christian gospel (as opposed to “Churchianity”) could ever ‘convert’ to another faith.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Martin: Gods are just the souls of tribes. As many Gods as there are tribes is no wonder. Secularism is the default mode, though, and makes an excellent soul, when one is honest… As Europe increasingly is.

      Islam was devised by Muhammad, deliberately as an anti-Western, anti-Persian war machine. Although I don’t remember where the quotes were, he basically said that the Greeks, Persians and Romans had suppressed raiding for 1,000 years. However, after a long and terrible war between Rome and Persia, just concluded by a final Roman victory, the time to strike was now, as both Rome and Persia were exhausted. That was an entirely correct analysis.

      This being said, the initial culprit of all this was Roman plutocracy, which spawned dictatorship (the “Dominate”) and then rabid theocracy. Muhammad, to a great extent, just plagiarized Xtianism, while paying attention to making a raiding oriented religion (be it only to seduce the theocrats in Mecca who had looked down upon him).
      PA

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      • Martin Lack Says:

        The BBC programmes about Muhammad painted a picture of a genuinely peaceful and benevolent man whose aspirations were subverted by those that followed him. I am somewhat disappointed to think that he himself was no better than Saladin, Ataturk and others who were simply reactionaries determined to defeat those they saw as oppressors…

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Dear Martin: “Genuinely peaceful and benevolent man”? Would I call Julius Caesar that way? Muhammad’s raiding, attacking caravans for the spoils, military exploits and nastiness to the Jews who protected and sheltered him for years, the tribe of whom he destroyed, are well documented.
          The BBC is confusing reporting and being politically correct to the House of Saud.

          Ataturk was a secular hero, the exact opposite of Muhammad (although not in all ways, as he took part in holocausts and ordered the deportations of millions, on the grond of religion, and or ethnicity). Saladin was also closer to Ataturk than to Muhammad. He was a man of state genuinely open to peace.
          PA

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  8. Progress Kills Killer Religions « Some of Patrice Ayme’s Thoughts Says:

    […] For example insinuate that an analphabet dead 13 centuries ago was deluded, or that god is dog, spelled the wrong way, and millions of so called Muslims will tell everybody that it’s their duty to kill you. Denial is useless, and, at the limit insane: we have the quotes below, and a more extensive version. […]

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  9. Secular Egypt, Civilized Egypt | Some of Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] No part of the West ever lived free under an Islamist regime: the fundamental reason is the extreme violence within much of the Qur’an. […]

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  10. Obama Right On Syria | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] of course, some of the critique of Obama at the UN could be viewed as pointed straight towards the Qur’an, which contains therein an evil system of thought, in no way less Satanic than the one in the Bible, as the Cathars no doubt […]

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  11. Scathing Thinking | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Muslims have to do. I pointed  this dynamic feature in many essays in the past, such as “Violence in the Holy Qur’an“. It’s best addressed this […]

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  12. When A Child Fights Evil Well | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Malala has much more intelligence and courage than the many pseudo-intellectuals in the West who have imposed the wrong mood (“Islam is peace”) by sheer greediness (Political Correctness sells!), cowardice, and sheer ignorant stupidity. Some variants of Islam are peace (say West African Islam, circa 1950). But the Qur’an is not. Consider the (extreme, astounding) Violence In Holy Qur’an. […]

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  13. Free Will, Modernized | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] shoot Canadians. Hey, they read it in a magazine! Do those killers have free will? Or are they just Qur’an programmed machines? This is the sort of quandary which advances in neurology show the ancient debate on Free Will […]

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  14. Islamist State Phobia Is Civilized | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] The case of Islam is similar to that of the raw Bible. Within the 83,000 words of the Qur’an, the following compilation found around 10,000 words of calls to violence, some of it of the worst type. https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  15. “Je Suis Charlie” | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  16. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Coel Hellier’s site, January 21, 2015.]

    Peter: Do you know what you are asking us to “respect”? Here I am going to quote from one of my own essays:

    Have a look again at Hadith 41;685: …”Allah’s Messenger… : The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will FIGHT against the Jews and the Muslims would KILL them…”

    The “last hour” is the Day of Judgment (as found already in the Bible). When …”Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds to gardens beneath which rivers flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearl, and their garments therein will be silk.” (Qur’an S22; v23)… others will meet a “painful punishment.”

    Proposing that everybody good will be rewarded and the miscreants punished only after the Jews will be killed seems to me to be hate speech. From Allah’s Messenger, that is, Muhammad (supposing it was faithfully related by Sahih Al Muslim). It is to be feared that, left to be literally interpreted, this statement will bring many a Jihadist, to conclude it is a religious duty to kill the Jews.

    Also the Qur’an has 83,000 words. I found around 10,000 words which are encouraging thus who would make a faith out of that to inflict violence on others. You can find them in the following essay. Notice in the comments there that some Muslim scholars fell silent after I quoted all of this. Official translations of the Qur’an can be found from the Saudi government… Or Jihadist sites:

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

    So tell me, Pater, what is there to respect there? Are we going to have to respect the Holy Inquisition, next?

    I will propose that it is racist to inflict the Qur’an to Muslims, centuries after Europe got rid of this sort of murderous, violent obscurantism.
    With bemused respect,
    Patrice Ayme

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  17. France, Islamism: Garbage Above, Garbage Out | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Why are people still surprised? Are not orders, orders? Orders from god, of all people! Why can’t those who are always so surprised, able to read the Qur’an? Violence in the Holly Qur’an make the best terror project anywhere. […]

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  18. Free Speech Versus Islamist Fellow Travelers | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] according to the Qur’an itself). The Qur’an is one of the most violent books anywhere: see “Violence in the Holy Qur’an”. I don’t have anything against violence, if and only if, it is fully justified, and the only […]

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  19. To Preserve Civilization, Exterminate Fanaticism | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  20. Submission To War | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Violence in the Holly Qur’an can only be holly, as it comes from god’s mouth. Thus it’s completely natural that a […]

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  21. David Cameron’s speech on “extremism” and segregation | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  22. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Daily Beast, August 9, 2015]

    Harassing an infamy is always harassing to those who share it, or support it for some reason (often very devious). However, harassing infamies is how civilization progressed out of the dark ages. Harassing an ideology harasses ideologists who share it. However, as Voltaire said: “One must crush infamy”.

    If an ideology says horrendous things, and give abominable orders (as some of the religions inspired by Abraham do), embracing that ideology entirely is certainly horrendous and abominable. Embracing just some elements of it is fine (I do embrace some elements of Islam, like not drinking alcohol). However, embracing it in its entirety is certainly criminal, if it gives criminal orders. Orders to kill some categories of people are found in the Bible (including the New Testament) and the Qur’an, and the Hadith. Those orders (calls to hate murders) are clearly unlawful in most democracies, and law enforcement should be implemented.

    LUKE 19:27

    Submission To War

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

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  23. Chris Snuggs Says:

    “Islam’s borders are bloody and so are its innards. The fundamental problem for the West is not Islamic fundamentalism. It is Islam, a different civilisation whose people are convinced of the superiority of their culture and are obsessed with the inferiority of their power.”
    ― Samuel P. Huntington

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  24. Abdalah Ndiaye Says:

    Well chris that’s my pride my obligation the most important thing in my life to God Allah before anything i pray Allah my lord to die in this state of mine there is only one true religion since the prophete Muhamed peace be upon him and his companions his family and all the islamic family brouth the message of Allah with him ISLAM under the eyes of Allah

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      That makes you a deluded fanatic (someone coming out of the fanum, the temple) with homosexual tendencies: your lovers, those you love, Allah and Muhawhatever are MALE. It also makes you a fanatic who follows creatures he neve never even met. You are however free to be crazy, as long as you do not disturb public order (French Law of 1905). In Syria, your kind has seriously done so. Also you are not honest in this debate as you did not adress the fact that nearly 15% of the Qur’an is sheer violence as Chris said. True the Qur’an also order its fanatical followers to lie to serve it. The debasement of yourself you are so proud of: “Muhawhatever is my Lord” under the eye of Big Brother/Allah/Hitler is the essence of robotic killing.civilization is often attacked with.

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  25. Truth Is Not Politically Correct | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] directly in paradise to go out and attack, or even kill, non Muslims. No, I am not making it up: “Violence in the Holy Qur’an” can be consulted. And more quotes are coming by tomorrow, making these order […]

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  26. Islam: Lies & War Above Peace | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] violent. Roughly 10% of the 80,000 words Qur’an are sheer calls to violence: please consult my “Violence in the Holy Qur’an” which consists of violent quotes from the Qur’an. They cannot be explained […]

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  27. Qur’an Has Everything To Do With it | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] being taught French law, and instilling it, etc. However, the fundamental texts of Islam contain huge amounts of prescribed violence described as orders from God. (It gets even worse with the Hadith, which is much more explicit, even ordering to kill all Jews […]

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  28. Chris Snuggs Says:

    Patrice Ayme’ said:
    “Islamism is the desert version of Christianism. Condemning one, is condemning the other. Not condemning them, misreading history.”

    Chris Snuggs: There is a fundamental difference between the excesses of Christianity and Islam.

    In Christianity, the atrocities were a total perversion of the actual message of Christ by people who lived after his death who had a political power agenda. I am an atheist, but even so can recognize that Christ was a person absolutely worthy of worship and his message and example were beautiful.

    In Islam, Mohammed and his message are both vile, and Islamic atrocities are a logical child of the Koran. This difference is FUNDAMENTAL.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Christianism was captured by Constantine… Who invented/promoted “Orthodox Catholicism”, and viewed himself as “13th apostle”. Starting under emperor Jovian, libraries were burned, after that it was all downhil (and made worse by emperor Theodosius in 380 CE)l. It’s indeed unlikely that the early Christians would have agreed. So I guess what you said is true. But Xtianism started the mad process, and the mythical Xrist was not that non-violent (Luke 19, 27, I think), although not into raping women industrially, as Muhammad was… Clearly. So Chris 1, Patrice 0

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  29. Grand Ayatollah Obama, Islamist In Chief | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Grand Ayatollah Obama knows that we “can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem.  That betrays our values.” Apparently, our core value have to do with sheer lunacy. Reading the Qur’an front to back, in a non-censored edition shows it to be as violent as the most violent book of the Marquis de Sade. Except Sade is meant to describe the activities of plutocrats, in a parodies, whereas, when the God of the Qur’an condemns people to atrocious torture to death, again and again and again, He is serious; it’s a religious order. And implicitly enjoins his followers to do the same. See “Violence in the Holy Qur’an“. […]

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  30. VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”. « Defense Issues Says:

    […] Source: VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”. […]

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  31. Islam: Basic Most Important Features | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] and the nice collection: https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  32. Bush-Clinton: Vive La Difference! | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] VIOLENCE IN "HOLY QUR’AN". […]

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  33. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Facebook Philo Group.]
    Straight out of the Qur’an (itself straight out of the mind of the third Caliph, Uthman):

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/03/muslim-cleric-those-who-dont-respect-muslims-have-no-right-to-live

    BTW, a tripled-sided civil and religious war started as soon as Uthman, head of the world’s largest empire, started to impose HIS version of the Qur’an. Aischa, wife of Muhammad since age 6, accused the Uthman Qur’an to be highly sexist, not at like Muhammad was…

    We are still living with the consequences of this triple intra-Muslim civil war. Salafism was outlawed in Egypt by 1200 CE, under the penalty of death. But the Saudis made an alliance with Wahhab, a Salafist fanatic, in the Eighteenth Century, to conquer Arabia. American oilmen, in turn, made an alliance with Abud Aziz Ibn Saud in the 1930s, to push Brits and French out. Then FDR, followed by the OSS and then CIA instrumentalized Islam to further that strategy.

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  34. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Data Analysis; http://odintext.com/blog/textanalysisbible3of3/%5D

    This analysis conflates words and ideas. The Qur’an is full of standing orders promoting lethal violence. Violence seems at home in the Qur’an. The New Testament has a few orders also conducive to murder. However, there are so few, they seem out of place.

    Let me hasten to add that I am not Judeo-Christian, and I actually I spent by childhood in Muslim countries (Muslim, but not Wahhabist). The Hadith are much more violent than the Qur’an: in particular it is ordered to kill all the Jews so that God can proceed with the Last Judgment.

    Hadith 41;685: …”Allah’s Messenger… : The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will FIGHT against the Jews and the Muslims would KILL them…”

    The “last hour” is the Day of Judgment (as found already in the Bible). When …”Allah will admit those who believe and do righteous deeds to gardens beneath which rivers flow. They will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold and pearl, and their garments therein will be silk.” (Qur’an S22; v23)… others will meet a “painful punishment.”

    For more on the many verses commanding violence in the Qur’an, a book of less than 80,000 words:

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

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  35. Britain’s Unelected Islamist Prime Minister | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] imposes upon them the death penalty if they do in ways Muhammad obviously tolerated. Long subject. Sharia formalizes violence in the Qur’an… Caliph Uthman’s Qur’an, not Muhammad’s (that one was… boiled, all […]

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  36. Neat Suggestion For Net Neutrality | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] should see. Worse: Microsoft’s Bing censors completely some of my essays. For example “Violence In The Holy Qur’an” cannot be found on Bing (even looked directly by title and author) This sort of censorship […]

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  37. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Salafism was outlawed by Saladin in the Twelth Century, re-introduced by Saud family recently. Saladin’s government imposed the death penalty for Salafism

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  38. Cracking Down On Literal Islam | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  39. Outlaw Islamist Face Coverings | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  40. Further Horror From Sick & Depraved Superstition | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Many times in the Qur’an, a very short book, are variants of the following passages served: […]

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  41. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to UK’s Independent, April 26, 2017…]

    The Qur’an orders that apostates, atheists be killed (al;so homosexuals, because the Bible says so, declares the Qur’an!). Imagine someone killed for not believing in the tooth fairy.

    Many other categories are to be killed, according to the Qur’an: polytheists, pagans, those who insult islam, the Prophet, etc. Who decides who is an apostate (= someone who does not believe in islam anymore)? The beholder! This is why so many “Muslims” kill other Muslims: they are each other apostates.

    But Muhammad is presented in Muslim holy texts as a caravan raider, mass murderer, wife thief, invader, war chief, enslaver. No tooth fairy!

    Little secret: violence is intrinsic to the Qur’an, as it is to the Bible. However, very few lunatics take the bible seriously anymore! And nobody respect them!

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

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  42. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Apostate condemned to death, for apostasy, Saudi Arabia, April 2017:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-man-sentenced-death-atheism-ahmad-al-shamri-hafar-al-batin-appeal-denied-a7703161.html

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  43. Submission To War - NewsCream Says:

    […] Violence in the Holly Qur’an can only be holly, as it comes from god’s mouth. Thus it’s completely natural that a young […]

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  44. Real Civilization Does Not Confuse Civilization and Superstition. | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Muslims whine that this is out of context; actually the context is much more terrible than that: all sorts of people are supposed to be killed, according to Literal Islam, for example homosexuals, just because they are homosexual, following explicitly the Bible, are supposed to “rain stones […]

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  45. Orders To Kill Non Muslims Are Found Early In Qur’an | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] of the Qur’an. I reproduce those pictures below. For a full complement, consider “Violence In Holy Qur’an“. (You will see that homosexuals should be lapidated; And remember the Hadith is much more […]

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  46. Islam: Religion Of Fighting, Says Caliph! | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  47. Islam – a religion of peace or a totalitarian ideology – Defense Issues Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  48. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Sent to:
    http://www.economist.com/comment/3470766

    “A captured teenage IS fighter told CNN in 2014 he had been given pills “that would make you go to battle not caring if you live or die”.” The Qur’an itself makes one go to battle caring to die in combat “for Allah”. So there is a mood which is being shared here!

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

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  49. Constance Ramos Says:

    The attacker of the six soldiers was not French, but Algerian. Shot five times, he could not be interrogated yet. The violence in Islam is intrinsic. Consider:

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

    However, many in the French elite and authorities have claimed that to fear (phobia) of Islam, Islamophobia, was racist. Thus they are up a creek.They can’t condemn the roots of Islam (“radical Islam”), lest they be racist by their own definition.

    Maybe any preaching of radical, lethal quotes in Islam (there are many, see link above) should be viewed as a criminal event, especially when children are present?

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  50. Islamophilia Causes Islam Terror | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] Qur’an is a 83,000 words book. It is a terror book, with hundreds of threats against all sorts of people: hypocrites, homosexuals, “p…, all sorts of believers in beliefs Islam does not believe in, etc. Also the Qur’an says those […]

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  51. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Aeon, Dec 29, 2017]

    The author keeps sneaking in as obvious, enormously debatable, not to say deeply erroneous concepts. Such as: “The fallacious arguments of Islamophobes”, “the fact Muslim regimes are backwards for historical rather than metaphysical reasons”.
    Of course not true. Islam is an extremely dangerous and reductive superstition. Syria was the richest province of Rome went it was overrun by Islamist Jihadists (who killed all Syrian males to start with). All too many people are ignorant of the fact the “West” was NOT JUST Christian. The Frankish empire pretty much covered all of Europe, including Britain after 1066 CE… except for southern Spain. The fundamental laws of Europe under the Franks were mostly Roman law plus (Latin written) Salic law. Both were secular laws. The leadership was also secular (although Charlemagne gave to the Pope some territories in Italy in 800 CE).
    The West was not just “Christian”. Whereas Islamist countries were just Islamist. More exactly, and differently from Islamist countries, where law and governance were Islamist, law and governance was not “Christian” in the West.
    The superstition wants to kill or subject most of humanity:

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.


    Islamist law, the Sharia, contradicts UN law, itself an extension of “Western” law. It is, literally, outlaw.

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  52. Islamist Death Cult Propaganda: Destructive To Truth, Humanity | Patrice Ayme's Thoughts Says:

    […] https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/ […]

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  53. Patrice Ayme Says:

    The problem with islam is not just violent threats. Europe faces the unwillingness of many Muslims to assimilate. Here are a couple verses from the Qur’an that explain why: “You are the noblest community ever raised up for people. You enjoin justice and forbid the reprehensible and believe in God.” (Qur’an 3:110) “Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people.” (Qur’an 3:118).

    Thus, since the Qur’an states that Muslims are superior to others and should not to make friends with non-Muslims, why would they assimilate? Their expectation is the opposite: that Europe will assimilate into Islam… as happened to the Levant and Maghreb…

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  54. FdBdA Says:

    The Marines were formed on the shores of Tripoli, more than two centuries ago. The French have been battling Islamists on and off, for more than thirteen centuries: same old, same old. There is a good reason for that: the version of Islam written by the Fourth Caliph, Uthman, was meant as an anti-Western ideology. In particular it contradicted Greco-Roman secular law very heavily.

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

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  55. Sandy Says:

    It isn’t racist to detest followers of this disgusting cult! They have overrun multiple races since their birth in Arabia. It isn’t racist to detest Fundamental Christianists either; same reason. (They are just as bad in various African countries as they are in the United States.) We need to get over this “racialization” and start looking seriously at the way fanatical religion threatens freedom and democracy, especially when it is used to support crony capitalism.

    The latest crop of tyrants have been very cozy with religion!

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Approved 100%!
      Marx said religion was the opium of the people… That was before US MD distributed opiates and benzopiates liberally, killing close to 100,000 in 2017, and making million more too stupid to care…
      I know Obama personally, he was totally indifferent to god. However, once president, he promoted god systematically….

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  56. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Great Syrian poet focuses on violence intrinsic to Islam:

    http://www.slate.fr/story/117143/poete-adonis-requisitoire-religion-musulmane

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  57. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Appuyer là où ça fait mal
    Le poète Adonis affirme:

    «Il n’existe pas un islam modéré et un islam extrémiste, un islam vrai et un islam faux. Il y a un islam. Nous avons en revanche la possibilité de faire d’autres lectures.»

    Dans ce long dialogue en français avec son amie psychanalyste franco-marocaine, Houria Abdelouahed, l’iconoclaste Adonis s’en prend virulemment à l’islam, au risque de s’attirer les foudres des salafistes. À ceci près qu’à la différence d’un Houellebecq, il appuie sa critique au nom de la défense de la laïcité et de la cause des femmes.

    Le Coran est un texte extrêmement violent

    L’histoire actuelle, les convulsions mortifères déclenchées par le printemps arabe ont profondément affecté le poète. Ils l’ont conduit à une remise en question de l’homme dans la civilisation arabe et musulmane:

    «Au sein de la culture islamique salafiste, le moi n’est pas déterminé par son monde intérieur, mais par le texte et le consensus de la communauté. Il est demandé à la conscience de l’individu de jouer un seul rôle: suivre le texte divin.»

    Celui qui est interdit de séjour en Arabie saoudite dénonce une violence intrinsèque qui prend sa source dans le texte sacré. À ses yeux, le Coran est «un texte extrêmement violent» :

    «J’ai compté 80 versets sur la Géhenne (l’enfer). […] Le kufr (mécréance) et ses dérivés figurent dans 518 versets, le supplice et ses dérivés font l’objet de plus de 370 versets. Sur 3.000 versets, 518 portent sur le châtiment.»

    Pour Adonis, l’islam n’a besoin ni du monde, ni de l’autre, ni de la culture puisqu’il est la Culture absolue. Figé dans le temps, quelle nouveauté apporte-t-il par rapport aux anciennes civilisations? Le poète renchérit ainsi:

    «Historiquement l’islam, […] a été fondé par l’esprit de la tribu, les conquêtes et la puissance de l’argent. Aujourd’hui, Daech s’enrichit grâce aux ghanâ’im (les butins de guerre) et la mainmise sur le pétrole, le gaz, l’argent des banques et la vente des femmes…»

    Car en prônant l’islam comme la solution absolue, la vision islamique a effacé les problèmes existentiels, comme l’amour, la mort et la liberté. Ainsi, la mort, l’amour et la liberté ne sont considérés ou définis qu’au sein d’un cadre strictement religieux. Toute autre considération est vue comme hérétique ou mécréante.

    Désir de domination historique
    Poursuivant sa charge, le questionnement du poète secoue les origines mêmes de l’histoire musulmane. Pour Adonis, le pouvoir islamique s’est construit autour d’un désir de domination plus que de connaissance de l’homme. Il en veut pour preuve les premiers temps idéalisés de l’islam, où les califes ont surtout cherché à soumettre les opposants et ont fini par bannir ou condamner tous ceux qui interrogeaient la société et leur pouvoir.

    Dans sa dynamique d’expansion politique, les pouvoirs islamiques successifs n’ont cessé, à ses yeux, de tenter de soumettre le désir humain à la loi divine sans possibilité de la questionner, laissant finalement à Dieu, à travers ses représentants autoproclamés sur Terre, le soin d’écrire l’histoire et de définir ce qui est bien et mal.

    Dans cette exaltation de la soumission, la femme, incarnation du désir, doit impérativement être dominée et cantonnée au rang d’objets défini par ce que le texte sacré estime licite ou illicite de faire avec elle. Rien d’étonnant que les mots «misogynie», «sexisme ou machisme» sont inexistants dans la langue arabe.

    Du reste, Adonis n’a pas de mots assez durs pour condamner la mentalité de l’homme musulman mentalement conditionné et psychiquement structuré par la religion. «Elle est empreinte de domination, de pouvoir et d’emprise. La femme se trouve dans cet engrenage sans véritable issue» rappelle-t-il à l’envi.

    Si le ton sans nuances est donné, c’est que le poète entend aussi faire violence aux écrivains et intellectuels arabes d’aujourd’hui. Des écrivains empêchés par la crainte et la terreur de penser vraiment le réel. Car la vérité du discours religieux repose non sur sa propre vérité mais sur l’autorité de celui qui le prononce: «du moment qu’il s’agit du divin, on doit croire».

    Dépasser la vision religieuse du réel
    À la différence d’un Abdelwahab Meddeb, le poète n’entend pas présenter un visage beau et consensuel d’un «islam des Lumières». L’enjeu n’est pas de dénoncer uniquement la peur des intellectuels, mais de dépasser la vision religieuse du réel:

    «Avec l’islam, la poésie a donc dû se séparer de la pensée, et le poète n’a plus eu que le droit de dire ses émotions. Dès lors, les arabes ne peuvent pas imaginer un poète qui soit aussi un penseur, parce qu’ils n’ont pas l’habitude de lire une poésie qui soit en même temps une pensée. Pour eux, le poète doit être comme un chanteur.»

    Autrement dit, poésie et religion sont absolument incompatibles. Ce qui se déroule sous nos yeux «n’est pas la maladie de l’islam mais le contraire de la culture, de la civilité et de l’humain»; «c’est la haine de soi qui va jusqu’au suicide», prévient-il.

    «Pourquoi ne trouvons- nous pas un seul grand poète que l’on peut qualifier de croyant musulman?» s’interroge Adonis, qui n’a pas trouvé de penseurs ou de philosophes musulmans pouvant rappeler la figure d’un Emmanuel Levinas, «philosophe juif et croyant».

    Il faut une nouvelle lecture [du Coran] qui sépare ce qui est politique, culturel, social d’avec la croyance religieuse de chacun

    D’un coup de balai, le poète Adonis chasse mystique et philosophie islamique, prenant en exemple l’illustre soufi Ibn Arabî, qui utilisa l’islam comme voile afin d’échapper aux poursuites et aux exécutions. Aussi est-ce dans une nouvelle lecture du message coranique qu’il entrevoit une planche de salut. C’est-à-dire une lecture libérée du dogme wahhabite prédominant, une lecture «qui distingue profondément et essentiellement la pratique religieuse individuelle de la dimension collective et sociale. Sans cette lecture nouvelle et moderne, l’islam restera prisonnier de la violence et du pouvoir politique. Il faut une nouvelle lecture qui sépare ce qui est politique, culturel, social d’avec la croyance religieuse de chacun.»

    Et il ajoute:

    «La religion devrait être une question individuelle. Comment l’islam, qui accepte que le juif ou le chrétien délaissent leur religion pour se convertir à l’islam, refuse-t-il celui qui est né musulman puisse choisir une autre religion?»

    Pour une autre lecture du Coran
    Selon Adonis, l’islam est un champ très riche pour la psychanalyse car la pensée magique, la légende et la superstition dominent la culture musulmane:

    «Les musulmans sont hantés par les légendes qui sont considérées comme des vérités absolues. Nulle place pour la pensée scientifique. L’islam est par définition antipsychanalytique car la psychanalyse ouvre des horizons nouveaux pour la réflexion et la pensée.»

    Pour parvenir à séparer l’État de la religion, quoi de mieux que faire appel à la psychanalyse? L’islam doit donc se libérer d’une pense figée en introduisant l’analyse psychanalytique des événements en cours. Créer non pas des musulmans mais des citoyens. À suivre cette logique, «tant que la religion va de pair avec le pouvoir, écrit-il, tant que la religion musulmane est institutionnalisée, c’est-à-dire dans la sphère publique, aucun progrès ne sera possible».

    Autre défi de taille, sauver la femme de cet «assassinat» symbolique ou réel. Daech est perçu comme l’exaltation de la vie pulsionnelle la plus brutale:

    «Afin de retrouver le paradis, il y a des milliers de gens qui sont prêts à se faire exploser eux-mêmes. Car le paradis qui les attend est le lieu d’une jouissance masculine éternelle.»

    En cela, Daech représente pour Adonis non pas une rupture, mais bien une continuité. Monstrueuse constante, mais qui ne peut empêcher de croire en une prise de conscience, celle de la dangerosité de l’interprétation littérale du Coran et de ses funestes conséquences.

    La radicalisation djihadiste est-elle une «dérive sectaire», ou seulement vraie?

    De cet âpre réquisitoire, que les lecteurs du monde arabe ne liront qu’en traduction (si celle-ci n’est pas censurée), le lecteur restera sur sa faim. Nulle place pour le débat contradictoire, ni de recette miracle à l’attention des arabes pour qu’ils deviennent maîtres de leur destin.

    Pourtant, Adonis, candidat malheureux au Prix Nobel, voit dans la nouvelle génération arabe, étouffée par les dictatures, un penchement pour la laïcité et la modernité. On retiendra en définitive un cri de désespoir noyé dans le bruit des sirènes d’ambulances. Le cri d’un éternel insoumis, témoin impuissant de l’agonie d’une civilisation millénaire qui l’a vu naître.

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  58. Patrice Ayme Says:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/france-delete-verses-quran/559550/

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    Muslims Recoil at a French Proposal to Change the Quran
    Some of France’s most prominent figures, concerned about anti-Semitism, have signed a shocking manifesto aimed at curbing it.

    KARINA PISER
    MAY 3, 2018
    A manifesto published in the French daily Le Parisien on April 21—signed by some 300 prominent intellectuals and politicians, including former President Nicolas Sarkozy and former Prime Minister Manuel Valls—made a shocking demand. Arguing that the Quran incites violence, it insisted that “the verses of the Quran calling for murder and punishment of Jews, Christians, and nonbelievers be struck to obsolescence by religious authorities,” so that “no believer can refer to a sacred text to commit a crime.”

    Although it’s not entirely clear whether “struck to obsolescence” means wholesale deletion of verses, the manifesto was perceived as a call to abrogate Muslims’ holiest text. And although pushing for a theological reform of Islam in France is nothing new—everyone from leading imams to President Emmanuel Macron have made plans to restructure Islam—demanding that scriptural verses be deleted is another thing altogether. In Islam, the Quran is considered divinely revealed; because it’s deemed to be the word of God, altering or deleting any part of the text would be blasphemous.

    The manifesto came a month after the grisly murder of Mireille Knoll, an octogenarian Holocaust survivor who was stabbed to death in her apartment in an act authorities are calling an anti-Semitic crime. Last year, Sarah Halimi, a 67-year-old, was beaten to death and thrown out of her window, in the same area where Knoll lived. Her attacker yelled “Allahu Akbar!” as he committed the act; Knoll’s reportedly did the same. It took judicial authorities nearly a year to label Halimi’s death an anti-Semitic crime…

    The manifesto generated an immediate outcry among Muslims in France and beyond, with critics labeling its usage of the phrase “low-volume ethnic cleansing” hyperbolic and accusing it of homogenizing all Muslims. Days after the manifesto’s release, 30 imams signed a counter-letter in Le Monde. The Observatory for Islamophobia, an organization affiliated with the Egyptian government, described the manifesto as “hateful racism” that proves that “France is not a land that welcomes Islam.” The proposal to abrogate certain verses of the Quran was most controversial of all.

    Tareq Oubrou, the prominent French imam who oversees the Grand Mosque of Bordeaux, called the characterization of the Quran “nearly blasphemous.” Viewing the scripture as anti-Semitic, he told me, is the falsified interpretation promoted by the very radicals France seeks to combat: “ignorant Muslims who remove texts from their historical context.” Furthermore, the notion that anti-Semitism is built into Islam is “theologically false,” he added. As monotheistic “People of the Book,” Jews and Christians enjoy a special status in Islamic law. Historically, they were considered protected dhimmi communities, which meant they were allowed to practice their own religions, although they were subject to a tax and various indignities that symbolized their subordination to Muslims.

    [LIKE BEING EXECUTED FOR SLEEPING WITH A MUSLIM OR SAYING SOMETHING AGAINST… JESUS, NOT JUST THE ROPHET…

    …Rather than calling for absolute violence, Oubrou said the Quran advocates for a “defensive combat, against aggressors, within a historical context.” For instance, one verse says, “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture—[fight] until they give the jizya [tax] willingly while they are humbled.” The Quran, like many scriptures, is internally inconsistent on this and other matters. Oubrou argued that the problem is not religion itself—it’s that through radical, literalist interpretations of the Quran, “delinquents use the religion as a veneer for cheap crimes.”…

    [WELL, THAT’S WHY WARRIORS AND BANDITS AND PLUTOCRATS LOVE THE QUR’AN…]

    … Oubrou and Dlioueh were among 30 imams who signed a letter in Le Monde voicing indignation with “the confiscation of [their] religion by criminals,” a reference to those who preach violence, from certain Salafi imams to online recruiters associated with groups like the Islamic State. The authors expressed the consternation they feel—as both French citizens and Muslims—as they watch “Islam fall into the hands of an ignorant, disturbed, and idle youth” who have become “easy prey for ideologues” preaching hatred and inspiring anti-Semitic violence….

    ….Are jihadis devout Muslims who see violence as a religious obligation, or are they rebels—petty criminals and dropouts dismayed by their socioeconomic hardships—in search of a cause?

    The answer is likely some combination of both; jihadist terrorism neither has nothing to do with Islam—as some have said following attacks while urging against scapegoating of Muslims—nor is it an exclusively religious phenomenon. This debate aside, the Le Monde letter was a recognition that, despite the nonreligious factors driving violence in the name of Islam, religious authorities have a role to play in fighting it.

    But that needn’t mean abrogating certain verses of the Quran. Some Muslim scholars encourage believers to approach the Quran through a critical lens, putting it in historical context and recognizing its limitations. “A lack of human intelligence is blocking Islam today,” Razika Adnani, a scholar of Islam and member of the Foundation for Islam of France, told me. “Conservatives promote an idea that everything is in the texts, blocking human thought,” she added, and urged Muslims to “work to make Islam a religion of today.”

    Dlioueh stressed the importance of an “enlightened Islam”—and he considers it his daily job to foster that. “Imams are a shield against radicalization,” he said, and “we’re already working to that end—to promote tolerance, on the ground in rough neighborhoods, in our Friday sermons.” Rather than deeming certain verses dangerous, he said, Muslims should consider the entire text open to interpretation, and look to history as a reference for peaceful coexistence among Jews and Muslims (for example, in the Ottoman Empire).

    Oubrou promotes what he terms a “preventive theology” that takes into account why so many young people are vulnerable to what he calls “erroneous interpretations of the Quran.” He acknowledges that any religious text can be used to justify violence; the goal is to recognize the source of that manipulation, and why it becomes so compelling.

    Yet even if imams successfully promote a critical, contextualized reading of the Quran, the ability to fight anti-Semitism purely on the basis of religion is limited. Although many of the recent perpetrators of violence against French Jews have been Muslim, it would be overly simplistic to chalk the phenomenon up to religion alone. The gang leader who kidnapped 23-year-old Ilan Halimi in 2006, and held him hostage for two weeks, said he did it because “Jews have money,” drawing on the anti-Semitic tropes that have long plagued Jews. Those stereotypes are alive and well in France today: Survey data from 2016 reveal that 35 percent of French people believe Jews “have a particular rapport with money;” 40 percent think that “for French Jews, Israel counts more than France;” and 22 percent think that “Jews have too much power.”

    [THE QUR’AN EXPLICITLY SAYS THAT THE JEWS ARE GREEDY OVER ANYTHING ELSE…]


    “Even if we delete verses that are being interpreted problematically, that won’t eradicate anti-Semitism if those concerned have hatred toward Jews,” Oubrou told me. The challenge, he added, is to “change the perception, not the text.”

    [HOGWASH: THE QUR’AN CALLS FOR MURDERS AND TORTURES OF ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE…]

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  59. Patrice Ayme Says:

    “Liberals” have been confused by their masters for so many decades, that they self-devour…. As intended by their lords. The attitude of all too many “liberals” to Literal Islam is a case in point.

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  60. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Islam, literal and unreconstructed (Wahhabism, or Shia as in Iran) is inherently terroristic. There is a Fatwa against a writer you know from Paki gov, and US Internet has implemented it! https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/…/some-violence-in…/

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  61. Don Kemerling Says:

    One bad thing we’ve done is decide who the bad guys are ruling countries in the Middle East. Saddam Hussein was a very nasty brute, but he kept the peace and protected over 1 million Christians, and Jews, Yazidis, etc.

    All they had to do to stay alive was recognize that he was the ruler. Same goes for Assad of Syria. Very nasty people, ruling very nasty people.

    Qaddafi and the guy in Egypt; same thing. They are all but one gone, and so is the peace. The other is barely managing to stay alive with the help of foreigners, and his lack of control means war. It’s an ugly truth, but inescapable, and the US has bungled peace in the Middle East by regime change.

    Evolution would have been better than revolution

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I agree with your general statement… and extent it to Saudi Arabia, the Emirates, etc… Even Indonesia, Malaysia… Even though the Islamists in Iran and Pakistan have something particular against me, I am not advocating attacking them. (Although I approve pressure on Iran, and would like to see more on ALL Islamist countries… What Pakistan did to me shouldn’t be tolerated, though… Let alone been collaborated with)

      Qaddafi was a special case, very different from Assad, Saddam, and Egypt. Gaddafi was completely nuts… and in a strange war and relation with France for 40 years. Qaddafi was doing horrible things. Nobody wanted to take care of Libya after france killed him… Because it’s VERY complicated. Some of the story is 3,000 years old. I pushed my friend Obama to intervene in Libya. I stand by that.

      HUMANISM IS FORCE. No-Fly Over Libya.

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  62. Stephen Jones Says:

    Patrice Ayme: the fatwa is, and please correct me if I misunderstand by saying it’s not all that different than church excommunications of say, in the dark ages?

    Of course, heretics and blasphemers were also jailed, tortured, and put to death.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Stephen Jones: A fatwa is a religious decision by a religious chief. Said chief is often self-proclaimed, example Osama bin Laden (killed by Obama), or Al-Baghdadi (proclaimed Caliph Ibrahim by the Islamist State; committed suicide while killing kids).

      The particular Fatwa this particular writer was victim of, was proclaimed by the Pakistani Justice ministry because the writer (Yours Truly) had violated blasphemy laws of the ISLAMIST “Republic” of Pakistan. The writer evoked the Rophet in a non-respectful way.

      Excommunication could only be pronounced against Catholics, and had NO legal consequence… in theory (as only SECULAR law was constitutional outside of the Papal States). A fatwa can be launched by anyone who is viewed by some Islamists as an Islamist authority. One couldn’t excommunicate a Jew… Moreover, under the Franks, for 5 centuries, Paganism was OK, so was conversion to Judaism, thus excommunication had no bite: many “Catholics” would mass convert to Judaism…

      After the September 11, 2001, attacks, a group of Middle Eastern Islamic scholars issued a fatwa permitting Muslims serving in the U.S. army to participate in military action against Muslim countries, in response to a query from a U.S. Army Muslim chaplain. This fatwa illustrated two increasingly widespread practices. First, it drew directly on the Quran and Hadith without referencing the body of jurisprudence from any of the traditional schools of Islamic law. Secondly, questions from Western Muslims directed to muftis in Muslim-majority countries have become increasingly common, as about one-third of Muslims now live in Muslim-minority countries.

      In the case of the (NON MUSLIM!) writer above, I have no idea what it means as it is the equivalent of Att. General barr pronouncing a religious edict. Now a fatwa is in theory “nonbinding”. But the decision of the Att General of Pakistan IS binding (thus implemented by US web sites!!!!!!!!!!!!)

      It’s all weird, self-contradictory, hopeless, and “ISLAMIST” countries should be goaded towards secularism…

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  63. Rachel Laudenslager Hunt Says:

    Thank you for explaining that. It seems to me that this could be an example of secular authorities trying to co-opt religion in order to increase their power. It’s a tale as old as time.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Rachel: Starting with Constantine following tricks of Diocletian, the Roman emperors INVENTED Catholicism (thus indirectly Islam) to rule theocratically…

      The Roman Catholic emperors got the ball rolling, especially Theodosius in 380-381 CE… They are the ones who invented the basic set-up embraced by the Islamists three centuries later… Little known, there were direct relations between Catholic authorities and Muhammad, including gifts of slaves from former to latter!

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      • Rachel Laudenslager Hunt Says:

        Wow. That’s fascinating. I didn’t know the specifics of the history, but the big picture seems pretty simple. Power hungry maniacs will do and say anything to solidify their control, and religion is an EASY way to do that.

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  64. Rachel Laudenslager Hunt Says:

    And didn’t Chinese and Egyptian Emperors also claim divine authority?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      All ruling classes have always claimed divine authority. They have to: optimal rule requires to rule over minds, not just bodies. The slave without chains does not rust and is low maintenance, self-managed. Divinization of leaders will always start from secular regimes, as happened in Rome with the emperors.

      Even in Venezuela right now, Chavez is becoming god, at least for the ruling class, although the country, society, health care, economy, standard of civilization are all collapsing….

      Islam is an imitation of imperial Christianism, and very explicitly so. The archbishop of Alexandria sent two slaves to Muhammad, one of them, a highly educated woman he married and had the immense pleasure to get his first (and last) son with. Jews also promoted Muhammad initially… before he turned against them with a vengeance.

      Roman emperors, starting around 70 CE, manufactured what they called, by 321 CE, “Orthodox Catholicism” (Common Opinion Universalism, in Greek). By the Nicaea Council, emperor (and “saint”) Constantine had established his theocracy, which became explicitly murderous against non-believers by 381 CE, under emperor Theodosius I. The empire collapsed by 395 CE, immediately after Theodosius crushed an anti-Christian civil war.

      After the empire collapsed, the Franks rebuilt it with a TOLERANT variant of Catholicism, which tolerated all religions, in the old Roman style. However the Muslims imitated what enabled RAIDING (Muhammad said so explicitly, gloating they were going to raid into the rich empires to the north for the first time in 1,000 years…)

      The end result was that what was for millennia the world’s wealthiest region, was durably turned into the poorest: remove the oil, what’s left?

      Half of my family is from Algeria, BTW…

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  65. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Islam is a war religion, anybody who spent three honnest hours reading the Qur’an will get to that conclusion:

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

    Thus the mood of proper fundamental Islamists is violent. This is why there is more than 100 variants of Islam. I grew up exposed to thoroughly non-violent types of Islam… Which barred Wahhabists and their ilk of ANY ACCESS to the region since times immemorial…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadi_Islam

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  66. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Pornography: writing about those for sale. Ultimately, writing about power, and how it can be made to serve. Thus, are power religions a form of pornography? I ask, you decide. The essay below was attacked recently by very sophisticated hacker, BTW…

    VIOLENCE IN “HOLY QUR’AN”.

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  67. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Muhammad conspired to institute Islam on the go, first getting leverage from his cousin, the top Christian in Arabia, and then from the Jews of Yathrib (which he had to terminate thereafter). Finally he conspired to make a deal with Mecca’s Quraish. Then a conspiracy poisoned him (he said, PBUH…)

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