Separated Minds

Listening, watching, the pro-Russian separatists in Ukraine: so much anger. About what exactly? They speak of the “fascists”, the “Nazis” in Kiev, who made a “coup”. They cry. They are very emotional, sometimes hysterical.

They wear orange strips striated with black, the same that were worn by the Soviet army in the war against the Nazis in WWII. The same exact decorations are worn all over Russia. The idea? The war against the Nazis, what Russians call the great patriotic war, has started again. What’s going on? Putin has made them red-hot, in the old fashion way baboons understand so well.

Putin's Violent Violating Finger Pointing Straight Up In The Middle Of The European Union

Putin’s Violent Violating Finger Pointing Straight Up In The Middle Of The European Union

It’s all very simple. The ancestors of these Russians were sent by the Czars to settle “New Russia”… As Russian, newly Russianizing… Ukraine. Some, or their parents, were sent by Stalin. That’s why in East and South Ukraine, Ukrainian is spoken in the countryside, and less in the cities.

Ukraine was long the most productive part of the USSR, industrially, or agriculturally. But as Stalin and his henchmen “collectivized” the farms, peasants tried to resist. Stalin and his henchmen killed them with wild abandon. When the Red Army started to have had enough, Stalin and his henchmen killed that too.

Meanwhile, in the West, millions of “Communists”, rendered insane by their hatred of Western plutocracy, bleated their approval of Stalin’s fascism. A curious case of collective hysteria, jumping from the fire, into the lava. (Some, such as Camus, saw their mistake; others, like Sartre, not so much…)

Those pro-Russians in Ukraine we can see full of rage and distress on TV, got all their information, in Russian, from Putin controlled Russian TV. Many honestly believe the lies they have been told. How could they not? They know nothing else.

So is disinformation, dissembling, and outright lying a crime? Well, it is, when they go too far, and are what lead from peace to war.

Humanity progresses by becoming ever more sensitive and smart about the causes and subtleties of optimal morality.

Progress involves not just a refinement of introspection and culture. But also a refinement of the law. Including International Law. That is why wars of aggression and annexations of territory are, and ought to be, subject to the greatest penalties.

Be it only by instigating hatred and lethal fear through their deliberate lies, Putin and his henchmen are engaged in a criminal enterprise.

When Putin claims that the West wants to dismantle Russia, all of it, and, without missing a beat, that Ukraine is Russia (apparently separated from the rest by the West, he implies), he is activating a terror so great that one can only expect all Russians to line up behind him, with just one mind, the mind of war, and then go to war.

This is the essence of the fascist reflex.

And what of these orange strips striated with black. Russian say it has to do with “the Great Patriotic War”. Do they even know how it started? How Russia got involved?

Well, first, Stalin was, de facto, allied with German fascists, for more than two decades (top Soviet fascists were allied to German fascists since 1917, at least). German generals and their tanks trained in the USSR (this explains why they believed they could destroy the USSR, and they may have had, but for the preliminary invasion of Greece and Crete).

Then Russia made its alliance with the Nazis official.

Thus comforted, Russia, still allied with the Nazis, invaded Poland. Then Russia, more allied with the Nazis than ever, send Hitler and his gang of criminals all they needed, including precious oil. Oil that was used to invade Western Europe.

Then Russia attacked, and invaded… Finland. Unfortunately the Finns did not understand well that Finland was Russia. With astounding efficiency, Finns killed many thousands Russians. Officially, the Soviet Union suffered 323,000 casualties. In the end, Stalin, Putin style, annexed some Finnish territory, augmenting once again Russian “hugeness” (Putin), as all good Czars do.

So the orange strip striated with black is ambiguous: does it mean Russia is allied with Nazism again?

Do not expect most Russians to understand the preceding, except as “hatred”. When young Russians are asked about Kalingrad Oblast, all they know is that, during the “Great Patriotic War”, it was “liberated” from the Nazis. They actually thus deduce it was always Russian.

They don’t know it was never Russian. And always Prussian. And sometimes (for three centuries), Polish. All, but never Russian.

And who was Kalinin? One of Stalin’s henchmen, dripping with blood.

And what did Putin put in Kaliningrad? Nuclear missiles, a few minutes flying from Warsaw, Prague, Vienna, Berlin, Hamburg.

In his usual lying ways, Putin said he would put these extremely dangerous Iskander missiles IF the West put a few anti-missile missiles in the West (meant, and only capable of, intercepting a couple of missiles from Iran). The West then abjectly excused itself for ever entertaining such a notion, and said they would never consider it again. Then Putin, satisfied, having got something for nothing, as usual, deployed his nuclear missiles.

The Iskander missiles deployed by Russia are a violated of International Treaties, the Intermediate Range Nuclear Force Treaty signed by Gorbatchev and Reagan, in 1987. The treaty eliminated nuclear and conventional ground-launched ballistic and cruise missiles with intermediate ranges, defined as between 500-5,500 km. Reason? Those weapons can strike in a few minutes, their command and control is prone to accident, so are intrinsically destabilizing.

The obsolete predecessors of the Iskanders were ceremoniously destroyed. Iskanders are mobile (impossible to find), they fly low (50 kilometers) at hypersonic speeds (2,100 meters per second), and execute anti-anti-ballistic missiles missiles maneuvers at up to 30 gs (thirty times Earth’s gravity).

In other words, the Iskanders are a monster weapon, in violation of all treaties, and Obama has been watching all this with the distinguished awareness and elegance of a cow watching a train.

One feels Obama should lay on a beach in Hawai’i watching surfs surf. At least we would know where he is at.

No wonder Putin has decided he is a tiger, Obama a cow, and Europe a hunting ground.

The pro-Russian “separatists” in Ukraine shouting:”Russia, Russia, Russia…” are about as intelligent as would have been people in Algeria singing: “France, France, France…”. Actually then, they didn’t. Even the most idiotic fascist colonialist right wing extremists of the French persuasion were shouting:”French Algeria” (Algerie Francaise).

The Ukrainian separatists thus deny the very concept of Ukraine. Why? Because Putin, their master thinker, denies it. So they repeat, like parrots, because their master does not lie, they believe. Putin insists, incessantly, that there is no such a thing as “Ukraine”. It’s all Russia. Apparently all the way to Kaliningrad and beyond. “As one of our Czars said, they are afraid of our hugeness”, he chuckles…

Meanwhile, emboldened by the sort of violation of International Law not even Stalin dared to indulge in, Putin sends his “very professional” fifth columnists, all over Ukraine.

Patrice Aymé

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31 Responses to “Separated Minds”

  1. Ian Miller Says:

    Dear Patrice, You have a lot of thoughts there. However, to argue the Ukrainians are being led by the nose by Putin may not be correct. I have given the other side of the coin, so to speak at http://wp.me/p2IwTC-5e. (As an aside, my information came from the BBC, which, as far as I know, is not a mouthpiece for Putin. There is no doubt whatsoever that the Ukrainians suffered terribly under Stalin. What Stalin did was to modernize the Soviet Union, and he needed cash, so he sold food, leaving all and sundry starving. In my view, Stalin was far worse than Hitler, and that is saying something. However, Putin is not that sort of leader; if he were, the burning of Russian protestors in Odessa would have set off the motor rifle units. Yes, Putin probably is supplying armaments (I say probably, but the protestors have actually taken over a Ukrainian arms store, so it is not clear.) Then as for the Iskander, the US broke a number of such agreements by planting missiles in Poland, nominally to deal with Iran. That really fools everyone! No, there is more to this than meets the eye. And before you accuse me of being a Russian sympathizer, I was in Czechoslovakia, arriving on August 23, 1968, from Poland, and I dodged tanks and machine gun bullets, and I could have been killed about five times.

    • Ian Miller Says:

      Forgot to press notify me of followup -sorry

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Ian. A few points… Points that come to mind always circle around different perspectives:
      London, as conceived by Lady Thatcher, was a mouthpiece for Russian plutocrats. They even assassinate each other there. So make no mistake, the BBC does not tell the truth. On that one.

      Ukraine has suffered from the Czars for at least four centuries, ever since the Muscovites extended their methods westward…

      Putin has to be a bit careful here. Some people around here are bound to have told him he risks the annihilation of Muscovy. But he is on the verge of attacking, and that’s why the Ukrainians have not unleashed their army, full bore.

      The USA did NOT plant missiles in Poland.

      So strong is the Kremlin propaganda that young Russians believe Kaliningrad was always Russian. It’s not a question of having Russian sympathizers. It’s a question of people being sincerely deluded. When lies have become reality, Auschwitz is the final solution.

      Or should I say: When the most extravagant, grievous lies become reality, it’s not very surprising that Auschwitz is the final solution?
      PA

  2. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Ianmiller’s blog:]

    Dear Ian: No defense missiles, except inside Putin’s mouth. Anyway, defense is one thing, violations of International Treaties, another. See:
    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/separated-minds/

  3. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Washington Post:]

    Putin is a force that goes in his own world, risking a catastrophic collision with the real universe.
    BTW, unnoticed, Putin has been violating massively, for two years, right in the middle of the European Union (!) the Treaty on Intermediate Range Missiles of 1987, signed by Gorbachev and Reagan!

    That Washington did not notice is simply astounding.
    For details, see:
    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2014/05/05/separated-minds/

  4. Ian Miller Says:

    Dear Patrice, Re the missiles, my source of information here was a program from the BBC, BUT the assertion that they were there was from the mouth of a person who had been a senior member of the State Department, and had been involved with the consequent negotiations with Medvedev.

    Nobody denies the Czars had an invasive effect over four centuries, although Rus actually started in Kiev, so I believe. That is no excuse to take it now – I think we have to say, “We are here!” and stop the fascination with past problems. (Actually, my son-in-law’s family lost a big estate in East Poland to the Soviets. They would be rich if they could get it back! But they won’t.) I think it is the Ukrainians who have to solve this problem, and I suspect West Ukraine and East Ukraine is the best solution, because I am beginning to think there is not going to be much chance of reconciliation. What they badly need is a noon-corrupt but good leader, and there aren’t any in sight from either side.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      That reflects well beyond what I feared: the BBC is therefore an organ of propaganda of Putin, it they impress common people with such enormous lies.
      How do you even know that this “senior ember” was not straight out of central casting? No, really?

      It also exemplifies that one should never take the word of one person on TV, as the truth, when one does not know the subject. Let alone, know it well. There is no anti-missile system in Europe (although the French have some capability with an indigenous system similar to the general purpose missile of the USA on Navy ships).

      Rus did start in Kiev, but that was not a very centralized state, and it paid a price that way.

      Right now it’s not a question of east versus west. That, again, is Putin propaganda. Timoshenko, for example, as Ukrainian as they get, is from east Ukraine.

      Putin knows all this well, and that’s why he wants to prevent elections in Ukraine. And what he fears most is Timoshenko as president, and that’s why his agent, Yanukovitch, tried to kill her.

      • Ian Miller Says:

        I can’t remember the name, but he was definitely not casted. The program also had Medvedev, Putin, Obama, H. Clinton, etc, so it would not have been casted, as you say.

        I doubt Putin wants Timoshenko, but more because she seems to think the West is a way out of Ukraine’s difficulties. I doubt Yanukovitch tried to kill Timoshenko, but it if he did, he made quite a hash of it, but then again, he was fairly inept anyway.

        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          I really find astounding that the BBC would pretend there are defense anti-missiles in Europe. Although it’s not as astounding as the violation, by dictator Putin of the 1987 intermediate range treaty. It’s also dangerous: what proof do we have the dictator does not intent to use them in pre-emptive strike?
          PA

  5. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Polls]
    Russian President Vladimir Putin’s approval ratings have been on the rise in his country, but he’s less beloved in Ukraine, it seems.

    Pollster Rating Group reports that just 16 percent of Ukrainians have a positive view of Putin and 76 percent see him negatively — up sharply from 40 percent in October.

    In March, a poll from the Levada Center put Putin’s approval rating in Russia at 80 percent, a three-year high.

    • Ian Miller Says:

      From what I gather, many of the Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine do not want to join Russia, but they, together with the eastern Ukrainians, do not want the current lot in Kiev either.

  6. Benign Says:

    http://www.kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/almost-70-of-citizens-in-south-eastern-ukraine-against-their-regions-joining-russia-according-to-the-poll-344750.html

    however, support for a federated structure appears strong. I do believe the people in the east don’t trust Kiev or think they get fair treatment from Kiev. the massacre in Odessa shows that thuggery exists on both sides

    Let’s hope Vlad is not as mad as Patrice believes. unfortunately, the neocons on the Western side are mad. see Paul Craig Roberts on the “Wolfowitz Doctrine”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/05/02/washington-intends-russias-demise-paul-craig-roberts/

    a proposal for referenda and a federated structure has been on the table since near the beginning, as I understand it, and both sides keep accusing the other of breaching the truce.

    let’s give peace a chance

    b

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Timoshenko is from eastern Ukraine, she wants a federal structure. That Vlad is mad is sure, as he had it all planned. See also his violation of the 1987 Treaty (read the exchange with Ian, or my essay).

      Neocons are another subject entirely. They were mad in 2003, they will be mad today. Vlad has outdone them. That was precisely the main argument against Neocons: they were going to be outdone. That was compounded by the fact Obama and people around him are amateurs. I mean, they amore the perks of power, not the burden of deciding, or even noticing anything, from the greenhouse, to banksters, to Vlad the Pluto In Chief.
      PA

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I don’t know what this Paul Craig Robert is, but he is just repeating what Putin says. It’s better to answer his master. I wasted lots of time on Putin’s insanity already. The dictator killed 200,000 in the Second Chechen war, 20% of the population, but his crimes are so great, he has to keep on clinging to power.

      One trick is, just like Hitler and Stalin in the 1930s, Putin has a whole clientele of pseudo-leftists repeating his lies, word for word. I would suggest to study what I write instead, as it comes neither from the WH, nor the Kremlin. I was, and still is, against BOTH Iraq wars. BOTH. The invasion of Kuwait by Iraq was justified in several ways.

      Although I also was for executing Assad. No contradiction. Assad is a way worse guy than Saddam. Moreover Assad caused his war, whereas Saddam got manipulated into his… by plotters in Washington (the Neocons).
      PA

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      BTW, leaders of Pravy Sektor fought in the Chechen war, against Putin… Putin, Depardieu, Sharon Stone on one side, freedom on the other (no, I’m no Muslim Fundamentalist, hahaha).

  7. Lovell Says:

    Why Germans Love Russia:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/06/opinion/why-germans-love-russia.html?hp&rref=opinion&_r=0

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Hmmm… Thanks Lovell, I missed it completely. Very interesting. I had noticed (I watch German TV.) No time to comment on it rightnow, I have to run.
      Chancellor Gerhard Schröder has long been corrupted by Putin (he chairs Putin’s pipe). Politically, although SPD, some would call him on the right of Reagan.

      Chancellor Schmidt was a Stuka pilot in WWII, in the USSR, and certainly owes his life on Soviets having spared him by missing him.

      The ones who are really in a strange situation are the French. They are finding themselves increasingly with Russia in a repeat of the Serbia nightmare.

      The Rafales sent to Poland had to have their ensigns scrubbed, as they belonged to the Normandy-Niemen squadron… France was supposed to deliver two aircraft carriers to Russia, in 2014 alone, one of them, is making figures in the middle of the Atlantic…

      As I have said, German and Russian fascists were allied from 1916 to 1941… Even before August 1914, the Czar never believed that his cousin the Kaiser would attack him . And he did not: Von Molkte and his ilk organized the war… Plutocrats always forget that Pluto has a life of His Own.
      PA

  8. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to RSN, May 10.]

    Is this Parry on Putin’s payroll? If not, why does he repeat exactly what the Kremlin is inundating the West with?

    He keeps on talking about the impeachment in Kiev as a coup and the government there as Nazi, just as the dictatorship in Moscow does.

    Speaking of Swastika-like symbol, what of the orange and black strip of Saint George proudly exhibited by Putin, and his henchmen?

    And was not Stalin militarily allied with Hitler in 1939, 1940, 1941?

    Did Stalin and Hitler not collaborate to invade Poland, France, etc.? OK, they came to blow later, but maybe Muscovites ought not to have collaborated with the Nazis to start with?

    • Ian Miller Says:

      I don’t think it fair to compare any Russian with Stalin, who, as an aside, was a Georgian. Stalin was truly evil, and in my view, worse than Hitler. Most of those killed in Stalin’s purges were killed IN CASE THEY DID SOMETHING. Stalin invaded Poland, but mainly to get some pickings, and to put space between Russia and Hitler, not that it did him much good.

      • Patrice Ayme Says:

        Dear Ian: Answered in a separate comment. Lenin and Trotsky, let alone various enslaving Czars, were Russian. Lenin, and then Stalin, as I explained, were allied to German fascists, from 1917 to 1941. And invaded Finland in November 1939, capturing several slices of Finland, held to this day.

  9. Patrice Ayme Says:

    @ Ian:
    Peoples are, to some extent, responsible of what they let their leaders do. I know this goes beyond the grain of the politically correct, and some Nuremberg BS.

    The fact is, Putin can be compared to Stalin, as I did, in detail, and comes out worse. I wasted hours reading Putin. It’s explicit that he wants to re-create the empire of the Czars (the paranoia of whom he approvingly quote). Russia is presently 17 million square kilometers, the Czars reached 22 millions.

    The reason? As I explained within several essays, Putin wants to stay in place. It’s not just about comfort. He already killed hundreds of thousands of people, and does not look forward imprisonment and trial.

    By managing a slow world war, he guarantees his presence at the helm of the mess he created, thus not in a cage.

  10. Patrice Ayme Says:

    On plutocrats around Putin splurging at Sochi:
    http://www.brettforrest.com/articles/#/putins-run-for-gold/

  11. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to The Economist, May 16.]

    in reply to guest-sjjlmoe

    I have been the first one, on my site to define Putin’s acts as akin to war. And I wrote many essays about the situation, with a strident anti-Putin slant.

    However, it would be best to avoid war of NATO with Putin. It would be best to force the dictatorship to modify its behavior. We don’t have any ways of doing that except by exerting progressive pressure on commercial ties, and instilling the awe of law. Violating contracts is not the best way to achieve this.
    The first ship is not due to delivery before October, giving time for another pressure incentive to exert itself…

    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2014/05/01/%ef%bb%bfcivilization-warned-hitler-putin/

    • ianmillerblog Says:

      This is obviously a response to something else, but it is a little incomprehensible as a stand-alone. In my view, a war between NATO and Russia would be a very bad idea. Also, the annexation of Crimea is not an act of war; it is merely carving up the old USSR in accord with history. I am not sure what ship you are referring to, but I still think attempts to force Putin not to do what he doesn’t seem to want to do anyway are really counterproductive.

      • Patrice Ayme Says:

        Hi Ian! Yes it was an answer to someone who accused France to have “sided with the enemy“. The enemy being “Russia”. I will put out a short essay on this tomorrow.

        The annexation of Crimea is, prima fascies, a violation of International Law, and an act of war, and even, a WAR CRIME (if I remember the Geneva convention well).
        More on this later, right now, I have got to retire…

        Ukraine conquered Crimea, fair and square, more than 1025 years ago. Ukraine had a seat at the UN since the 1950s. Putin does not “know” why Ukraine was transferred back to Crimea, because he is just a KGB brute that even the KGB thought was too brutish a brute, and he never learned history (that was the charitable explanation).
        PA

        • Ian Miller Says:

          Hi Patrice. Crimea was part of Russia from the 19th century, but was transferred to the Ukraine in the 1950s for administrative purposes by Khruschev, who happened to be a Ukrainian, but that is on entirely relevant. Within the USSR it did not matter, because the Ukraine was governed by Moscow anyway. As an aside, Putin, was really relatively minor within the old KGB, managing various things in east Germany. I have never seen any evidence of special brutishness that can be reasonably attributed to him but maybe you have specific evidence.

          • Patrice Ayme Says:

            200,000 killed in the second Chechen war, 20% of the population, a war which Putin apparently orchestrated. The assessment that he did not have correct danger assessment came within the KGB, from his superior officers.

            Putin retired as a colonel from the KGB in 1991, with the explicit objective, he and his friends had, he said it himself, of putting the KGB in power. So he rose in Saint Petersburg.

            In 1998, Putin was appointed head of the Federal Security, the FSB, the replacement of the former KGB, as well as head of Yeltsin’s Security Council.
            Amen.

            • Ian Miller Says:

              A Colonel is not an excessively high rank, and the Chechen war is presumably the consequences of the general fighting it, not Putin, who would merely give the order, subdue it. The Chechen separatists have a history of favouring terrorism, so I guess the desire to stop that was not simply a desire to be brutish, as you put it.

              Ukraine might have been a great power in the tenth century, but I fail to see the connection. Actually, before that, it was part of the viking conquests, and it has been over-run by Poles, Mongols, whatever. There comes a point where we have to forget history, otherwise France could reasonably be governed from Rome.

            • Patrice Ayme Says:

              Dear Ian: Second Chechen war, second. Putin provisionally retired, but then re-integrated the reforming KGB, the FSB, which he headed, as I said.

              If you read some of my older essays, you would discover that France is actually Rome, a point Karl Der Grosse (Carlus Magnus) exactly make in 800 CE, when he became the one (and ONLY) ROMAN emperor.

              History can be selectively forgotten best by explaining its most inconvenient details, better.
              PA

            • Patrice Ayme Says:

              Putin needs behavioral therapy, as I insist in the latest essay…
              https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2014/05/17/mistral-blows-hard/

          • Patrice Ayme Says:

            I have written somewhat extended essays with the history of Ukraine and maps. Ukraine was one of the great powers already in the Tenth Century, and it was not even Christian.

            This is about systems of thought. How the one in Ukraine, and the one in the Kremlin, were created, is of the essence.

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