Christ Preached Lethal Violence Against Non-Christians

He Was Obeyed, by Christians, and Muslims!

Islamism is a direct consequence of Christianism. Muhammad was initiated to all this god stuff by a close relative who was a monk. Who, in particular told him that the apparition in the desert was Archangel Gabriel. Muhammad the analphabet and Gabriel the super-angel were to have a long and fruitful relationship.

Islamism is violent, because Christianism taught violence. Two centuries before Muhammad’s birth, Christian monks, the famous “men in black” had devastated places of learning and people of wisdom, and in particular the world’s intellectual capital, then Alexandria. Jesus is a prophet of Islam.

What does the Bible say about Non-Christians? They are without God:

“Whosoever … abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God.” [2 John 9]

Looks Like The Jesus? It's Probably the Devil (Said the Cathars)

Looks Like The Jesus? It’s Probably the Devil (Said the Cathars)

Non-Christians are atheist! Not just that, but they are all antichrists:

“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” [2 John 7]

They should be shunned. Neither marry nor be friends with them:

“Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? … Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord.” [2 Corinthians 6:14-17]

They should be killed.

“If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you … Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.” [Dt.13:6-10]

Is this where the stoning habit of Islamists comes from? It would seem so:

Deuteronomy 17

“If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; 17:3 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; 17:4 And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; 17:5 Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.”

At this point, the Jesus lovers are bound to come out and contemptuously observe:”This the Old Testament now, and you twerp, do not know even know the difference between the Old Testament, and the teaching of our Lord, Jesus. This is called the New Testament. Clearly you are no Bible Scholar.”

It is not as easy to become a Bible scholar than a Quranic scholar: the Bible has more words than the 83,000 words Quran (so says my computer). Yet, the Bible is not Quantum Mechanics, nor even Classical Mechanics. Actually it’s less rich than Gregory of Tours’ History of the Franks.

 

In the New Testament Jesus stated that he had not come to change a word of the Old Testament. In Mathew 5:16-17 KJV, Jesus says: “Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in “no” wise pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.”

The Law” is the Bible’s Old Testament.

So Jesus endorses fully all the demented sadism of his Old Testament dad, a lunatic devoured by Will to Power, who tortures children to death, just to punish their parents. Actually, Jesus, the love object of billions of cretins Christians, himself partakes in the Will To Mayhem, making Adolf Hitler himself sound like a considerate gentleman in comparison:

Here is a typical quote of the unhinged Jesus:

But those enemies of mine, who would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.”

That’s Luke 19:27. Yes, that is one of the four most sacred Evangels of the New Testament.

Say you know someone and all the time he says you should love others, as you love yourself, and then occasionally adds that he will kill you if you do not let him reign over you. What to do? Call the police! That’s what I do. Actually, that’s what civilization did, and Christians were short-circuited.

The Franks and Parisians did most of the short-circuiting, starting around 355 CE (when they elected the “Apostate” Julian Augustus). However Christianity became manically insane again in the period 1099 CE to 1789 CE (although never enough to threaten one of the major states; whereas in the Fourth and Fifth Century, it brought the fall of the Roman state in the West, and the near-annihilation of the Roman Orient in the Sixth and Seventh Century… and, indirectly, the victory of the Muslim raiders).

To all this fanatical Christians reply that this is not what it looks like, that it is taken out of context, that Jesus is love, that these are just parables, etc. It is the exact same sort of denialism that fanatical Muslims use, say about women: it’s because they love women so much, that they keep them between four walls, or allow them to drive not, or allow them to walk without a possessive man not, or insist they should be hidden below a blanket, or keep them in harems, or marry them religiously on the battlefield.

In truth, the differences between Hitler and Jesus are much smaller than tradition has it.

Both spoke of peace ad nauseam. That was just a front, as they both had a will to kill non-believers and their “enemies”. However, Hitler kept that between four walls, and left nothing in writing (I have read a lot of what one could call Hitler’s complete works).

Jesus, on the other hand, was loud and clear: “those enemies of mine, who would not that I should reign over them, slay them before me!”. The message was embraced by Saint Louis, Martin Luther, Calvin. Saint Louis wanted to torture his enemies to death, and wrote nothing would give him more pleasure. Calvin, a Frenchman who had taken over Geneva, really did it.

“Those enemies of mine, who would not that I reign over them, slay them before me!”

Oh, Jesus, we the vicious invaders anxious to reign all over, we love you! Who can deny the stroke of genius in the service of the son of man? How else would the Conquista of the Americas happen? Let alone Siberia?

Patrice Ayme’

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15 Responses to “Christ Preached Lethal Violence Against Non-Christians”

  1. gmax Says:

    Thanks, very nice! I like it. Jesus as the Son of Evil, Alleluia! Wonder what the Jesus lovers will say?

  2. Peltast Says:

    The Abrahamic Religions are all about Supremacism and the destruction or conversion of any possible rival.

    I also put Marxism/Lenisn/Trotskym and Neoconservatism as Abrahamic religions.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Hello Peltast, and welcome!
      Indeed! The Bible is all about genocide, and fascistically obeying the Supreme Leader, the one who orders to kill one’s children, to prove one’s mettle.

      Stalin, actually studied to become a professional Christian. He was sent there by his mother. That enraged his father to the point he got in trouble with the law. Later, at age sixteen, the future “Man Of Steel” received a scholarship to attend the Tiflis Spiritual Seminary, the leading Russian Orthodox seminary in Tbilisi, Georgia’s capital.

      The Nazis massaged to no end the fact Lenin and mostly Trotsky were (atheist) part Jewish… (Although it applied even better to Hitler.) In the case of the Nazis, connections to Christianism were deep and extensive, before, during, after.

  3. ianmillerblog Says:

    Actually, Jesus did not leave anything in writing either, and it is not clear whether he could write.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Jesus did not leave one proof of existence. Not the slightest execution order. Rather curious as we know plenty on several crazed predicators of the area, and era, let alone Caesar’s hairline.

      More troubling, after Saint Paul (who was probably never executed) wrote Christ was all in his head, 4 years later, the Evangels started to appear.
      There had been, clearly a will to create a new religion, for a century, among the Jews of the era and area. New Testament-like texts appear a full century earlier, written by people who really existed.

      It’s truly astounding that among all the famous characters of the last 25 centuries, worldwide, the only one who, in all appearances never existed, was Christos… There is much more evidence for the much older Zarathoustra….

  4. johsh Says:

    was that christ, or plutocratic state actors ?

    for some reason, majority of christains for the past 2000 years, take christ to be a moral, “treat your neighbor the same” kind of person.

    how did you conclude he is some evil. What matters is how majority of Christians take bible’s/his teachings. Its mostly about good morals, and character building.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      The quotes are the quotes. A plutocratic state actor created the “Orthodox Catholic” religion: the emperor Constantine. He really did: that can be observed, and he said it himself.
      So did really Jesus say what the Bible said he said? Well, we don’t even know whether Jesus really existed.
      If we treat Jesus as real, we have to treat the declarations attributed to him as real.
      The end result is that the picture of the world the Bible gave is extremely evil (or Evil, with a capital E?) The Cathars observed this, and acted accordingly. Christian plutocratic state actors exterminated them all, to the last. Millions killed. Just as Cathars.

      That such an evil book is taken as the paradigm of morality is obviously trouble.

      This sort of paradoxes is all over. Take Nazism. Heydrich, the worst of the Nazis, who formally launched the “Final Solution” in January 1942, at the Wannsee secret conference. He LOOKED very much like a tall, blond… Jew.

      And Heydrich was rumored to be so, through his father, by some of his contradictors inside the Nazi Party, who thought the Final Solution was going too far; in the end, deeply terrorized by the SS general, nobody dared to ask him, to confront him, to his face.

      There is a bit of Heydrich in Christianity: it looks evil, it looks exactly like the Satanism it claims to fight to death, yet nobody dares to confront it with its true origin.

  5. EugenR Says:

    My short conclusion from all you wrote is a simple quote, , “To create faith in the hearts of people you need to use violence, to force absolute faith on people you need absolute violence”.
    But my other conclusion is, that to fight absolute evil, like the Isis in Iraq, you must employ absolute force against them.
    By the way, judging from some interviews with Israely muslim believers, who are educated and grew up in democratic states, they generally find justification to the doings of Isis.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Educated Arab Israelis “generally find justification in ISIS”?????
      Well, there is a calculus of hatred. As long as they are told they are not really Israeli, really, why should they not hate? And if they hate, what is a better vehicle than maximal haters?

      Deploying maximal force: nothing wrong with it. France, starting in January 1938, had decided to atom bomb Nazi Germany. Maximal evil, maximal force. If ISIS can deploy, as Nazism did, it’s precisely because a rising tide of evil (plutocracy) is rising… To this day, nobody sees the First World War in its right setting: republic against plutocracy (OK, the republic was plutocratic… but the German racial plutocracy, much more so! So things are relative too!)

      • EugenR Says:

        I think there is a difference between opposing a government that discriminates minorities, as it happens in Israel, and supporting a murderous ideology of dhash. All those who don’t see the difference actively support the absolute evil.

        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Agreed. But hatred always multiply. Sow the wind, reap the storm. The right wing in Israel wants to recreate the Greater Israel. Although not, per se, the main cause of turmoil, one cannot support this, officially speaking.
          The main cause of Middle East turmoil is of course, the basic mainstreams doctrines of Islam (Sunni and Shiah).

  6. Aaron Greenbird Says:

    “Two centuries before Muhammad ‘s birth, christian monks, the famous ‘men in black’ had devastated places of learning, people of wisdom, and in particular the worlds intellectual capital, then Alexandria..” well, that sums up nicely almost 400 yrs of his-story…that includes the almost 100 years between “BC-AD” that were erased due to the imposition of the christian calendar….but, the mysteries of Pagan antiquity survive in the story of Arthur and his companions. this is especially true in the matter of the Grail Quest. the story of the diaspora of the survivors of this civilization under siege was almost completely destroyed…their voices are just being uncovered, heard…..

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Indeed, Aaron, indeed. The Franks were given official military power in the North-West (except Britannia) in 400 CE. Actually Paris elected Julian Augustus in 357 CE, or so. Thus the anti-Christian hegemony current was strong there, early on. Christianity was not allowed to ravage the North West as it did the Middle East, and Orient in general. We can see the difference to this day, I would claim.

      Christianism’s rampage did not just leave physical ruins, all over the Orient, but also mental ones… And Islamism is one of them.

  7. Elizabeth Carter Says:

    Christ taught us not to resist evil but to turn the other cheek.

    He said that if you choose to live by the law of Moses you will be judged by the law of Moses.

    You are quoting Scripture out of context to make your point. It is not what Jesus taught at all. .

    Jesus was crucified and did not resist the evil that was being done to him at all.

    Christians were told to follow Him. The fact that many call themselves Christians and are not, does not change who Christ is or what he taught and lived by on this earth then and forever.

    Matthew 5 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
    5 And seeing the multitudes, he went up into a mountain: and when he was set, his disciples came unto him: 2 and he opened his mouth, and taught them, saying, 3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. 5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. 6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. 7 Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. 8 Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. 9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness’ sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.
    13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. 14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. 15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
    16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
    17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
    21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: 22 but I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire. 23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; 24 leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift. 25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. 26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
    27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28 but I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. 31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: 32 but I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
    33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: 34 but I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne: 35 nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. 36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. 37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
    38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 but I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
    43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. 44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; 45 that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same? 47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so? 48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
    John 5:19-47Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
    19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise. 20 For the Father loveth the Son, and sheweth him all things that himself doeth: and he will shew him greater works than these, that ye may marvel. 21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will. 22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 that all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. 24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. 25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. 26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; 27 and hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man. 28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, 29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. 30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
    31 If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 32 There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true. 33 Ye sent unto John, and he bare witness unto the truth. 34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. 35 He was a burning and a shining light: and ye were willing for a season to rejoice in his light. 36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. 37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. 38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not. 39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. 40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life. 41 I receive not honour from men. 42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. 43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. 44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only? 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. 46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Elizabeth: Welcome. I used to have sophisticate Islamist scholars trying to contradict me. In the end, our collaboration ended, when I selected ALL the violent quotes of the Qur’an I could find. That was roughly one verse out of nine in the Qur’an.
      https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2009/06/22/some-violence-in-holy-quran/
      Somehow, the Islamist fanatics were not game anymore. Carpet bombing them with their own Qur’an was indeed cruel and unusual punishment.

      I never did the same work for the Bible, because Christian fanatics’ density and lethality has now reached sufficiently repressed levels.

      You say:
      “Christ taught us not to resist evil but to turn the other cheek.”

      In other words, Christ taught to collaborate with Auschwitz. Let him get to the oven first. With my most sincere contempt.

      Christians may have been told to follow their lover boy. Germans were told to follow their guide.

      Well, I am a free human being. Some ignorant idiots can come and tell me to follow some mythical creature, and that gives me several excellent reasons to not obey them, at the outset.

      All the more if, essential to their “teaching” is that one should not resist infamy. The very fact lover boy Jesus did not resist his own crucifixion, as you said, is the very proof that, either he deserved it, or he was of the lowest moral sort.

      Or maybe he was a masochist who wanted to be crucified, because that gave him a sexual kick, to rub his buns on rough wood.

      And his followers are even worse. I mean what are these creeps going to do when some monsters come to torture a child? Turn the other cheek? Not resist? How much more despicable can one be?

      They should be buried in the mental rot to which they belong.

      To have made a religion out of collaboration with infamy, is not just inhuman, absurd, demented. It should outright be made unlawful, an submitted to the severe punishment, as non-assistance to children in danger. No wonder Christians love the cross so much: deep down inside they know they all deserve it, being the lowest of the low.
      Amen.

      Most Germans under Hitler, turned the other cheek and averted their eyes: they were all excellent Christians. In other words, Nazism, without Christianism, was a no-go.

      One can quote entire pages of good Nazism, Christianism, or Islamism, quotes. However, goodness and sweetness do not redeem the cyanide cake. Just the opposite. Hitler was talking about peace, and the rights of minorities all the time (as Putin does). The Non-Existent Jesus supposedly did the same, mostly about peace and love. (Curiously, Jesus forgot the slaves; slavery is outright lauded in the Qur’an.).

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