World War Two Dead & The Long Peace

We live in the age of slick videos produced by people who know how to code, while being seductively parsimonious with their logic. Thus they are easy to listen to, not to say hypnotizing. One such video is “The Fallen Of World War Two”. “An animated data-driven documentary about war and peace, The Fallen of World War II looks at the human cost of the Second World War and sizes up the numbers to other wars in history, including trends in recent conflicts.”

Roughly Correct Is Not Fully Correct:

The video is Roughly Correct. “Roughly Correct” is a category I will introduce. The caveat with the “Roughly Correct” is that the devil is in the details. So being Roughly Correct misses the diabolical, and thus the divine.

Such Numbers Have To Be Taken With A Grain Of Salt. They Are Minima.

Such Numbers Have To Be Taken With A Grain Of Salt. They Are Minima.

[French military dead do not count those who died fighting in the resistance. In the Battle of Vercors alone, 5,000 French civilians died; that obscure and overlooked battle was crucial, as it diverted elite Nazi and SS units from the landing in Normandy which soon followed. The USSR military losses are probably above 14 millions: Stalin was not willing to conced the trashing he got, and how weak the USSR truly was in 1945… In spite of its 600 divisions… In general, partisan activity, which was huge in some countries, ought to be counted as military, in my opinion.]

An example of the perversion of reality by the “Roughly Correct” is that the aforesaid video slickly affirms, authoritatively, that USA’s bombings in World War Two were targeted against enemy cities (“contrarily to what you heard“). This is roughly correct. Roughly, but not really.

What the video does not say is that a lot of industry was located in said cities. Bombing the industry meant bombing the cities. In particular, in the case of Japan, countless small factories were located throughout Tokyo, so the fire bombing there was not just a terror bombing, but, first of all, a strategic bombing to destroy the enemy’s industry. In the case of Nagasaki, the primary objective, with important military industries and naval installations, was under clouds so the Plutonium carrying B29 bomber diverted to Nagasaki (I don’t think that landing back with the Bomb had been envisioned).


The Fascists Got It All Started:

City bombing was started by the Nazis, on a massive scale, They started with the bombing of Guernica in 1936, to terrorize the population, which supported the legitimate, Republican government. Then, starting on September 1, 1939, the Nazis bombed Poland, To kill Poles, mills were deliberately targeted. Bombing French cities was next. It brought the French to retaliate with a successful Berlin bombing, to the Nazis’ hysterical fury (they screamed that the bombing of Berlin by the French Navy air force was a war crime).

The Nazis were not smart, so they tried the same trick in England, especially in Coventry and London. Those racist imbeciles were not even ready to wage a city-destroying war. They were too dim witted to have heard of the massive built-up of a long range British bomber force. British retaliations were terrible. Massive bombing of German cities by the RAF forced the Nazis to relocate industry in the woods. The Americans came later, and, to their credit, tried precise daylight bombing on specific factories, suffering losses which became sustainable only when the bombers could be accompanied by long range fighters).


World War Two Killed More Than 3% Of The World’s Population:

The Hufftington Post entitled the video: “Jaw-Dropping Visualization Will Give You New Respect For The Sheer Number Who Died In WWII.”

However, if anything, the video underestimates of the sheer numbers (a drunk Stalin famously joked to Churchill that he killed more Soviets than Hitler did). A number of countries had interest to undercount how many died. For example Russia wanted to look stronger, after the war, than it really was. The Nazis and the Soviets, together, killed at least 51 million citizens of the USSR (latest evaluations).


A Few Numbers:

The fatalities of the French empire alone were well above two million (civilian plus military). Generally, French losses do not count those of the French empire, which are several times greater: this is, of course, a form of racism (just as it is racist to assimilate British empire losses to Britain when they were, for example Indian, or Nepalese). The French empire was under French jurisdiction at the time, so those losses ought to be counted as such. (The French also do not count the 40,000 Alsacians who were drafted and died under Nazi flag; those are generally counted as “German” military losses.)

The losses in Greece are above 800,000 (including more than 30,000 military). This informs the present crisis in Greece (whatever present German leaders say).

The losses in Poland are around 6 million dead.

Chinese losses were well above 20 millions (whereas Japan suffered only two million dead or so, most of them military),

Indonesia suffered up to four million dead (mostly civilian). From the Japanese invasion (something Japanese kids should learn).

So a graph found in the Huffington Post has the pernicious effect to make the unawares believe that only Russian, Nazis, Americans and Brits suffered.

In truth, in many places, the ravages of the war were so immense that counting the dead is impossible by up to a factor of five.

Another point: distinguishing between “Nazis” and Germans is a distinction without a difference. However it exculpates most Germans living at the time from having collaborated with the Nazi machine. They did not have to. They were cowards to support the cruelty, debasement, violence and viciousness of the Nazi enterprise. Worse: most of Germans living at the time, above 95%, enthusiastically supported the Nazi project.

This was amply demonstrated by the fanatical resistance of the Nazi population at the end of the World War, in 1945. What was called the “War of the Cities”. The Nazis had lost their right to exist, thus never had their killing frenzy been so high.

And it was not just top-down. An example: Heinrich Himmler, chief of the SS, negotiated with the Swedish ambassador, and enacted, saving the lives of thousands of Jews. Himmler was anxious to save his skin (whereas, the top Brits, who captured him, were anxious to silence him: Himmler’s alleged suicide made little sense).

Meanwhile, millions of Germans, aka, Nazis, were fighting to death.

Just a little example: the First French army crossed the Rhine under fire, and then dashed through Southern Germany: Bade Wurtenberg, and then Bavaria, Austria. In Bavaria alone the French First army during what should have been a cakewalk in April 1945, suffered more than 5,000 soldiers killed.

Meanwhile, as the Soviets, led by Marshall Joukov, triumphed at Berlin, they were left with only one hundred functioning tanks (out of the thousands Joukov’s tank armies had a few weeks earlier). So yes, the Nazis resisted, down to the bitter end, like the demented maniacs they were, and, even at the very end, they were an enormous percentage of the German population.


Conclusion: Politically correct, and roughly correct is not philosophically correct: Germans were Nazis in World War Two. That is why Naziland was so hard to crush. Nazism was not a handful of criminals barking out orders. It was more than 70 million maniacs trying to goose-step all over the world.

And the Japanese, who suffered around two million dead, of which much less than a million were civilian, should stop whining hypocritically: they killed more enemies by a factor of ten, or twenty. And more than 95% of those “enemies” were civilians. It’s high time for schoolbooks in Japan to depict those facts.

The video wonders about the “long peace” which followed World War Two. Its cause is very simple: the world, since 1945 is administered as an empire with five principals, the five nuclear armed permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. None of these five powers had interest to attack and conquer (this may be changing as Xi and Putin are unstable leaders). Any factor endangering that nuclear oligarchy threatens the long peace (so Putin and Xi are threats). And when it breaks, watch out. Losses comparable to World War Two would kill now 250 million people, and potentially much more (as an Indo-Pakistani nuclear war would quickly demonstrate).

Patrice Ayme’

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10 Responses to “World War Two Dead & The Long Peace”

  1. John Rogers Says:

    I remember reading somewhere (can’t remember now) that American troops, moving rapidly east towards Berlin, were shocked to encounter many towns where the entire city administration had withdrawn to the city hall and committed group suicide in the face of the Allied advance. So, yeah, the fanaticism wasn’t just Hitler in the bunker.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      There were many crazy anecdotes about Nazi insanity collected by American GIs. Refusing blood transfusion, and preferring death, if the blood could not be certified as non-Jewish. Schoolchildren with heavy weapons, and GIs finding their schoolmistresses to call them back to order and surrender, etc.

      Other Germans saw the light, and brandished white flags behind dedicated Nazis fighting the Allied advance. Marshall Model concluded that he had crowned his career fighting for a criminal, Hitler. After informing his aides of this, he committed suicide.

      Von Manstein, though, never got cured of her Nazism. With a full green light from the USA, he kept exerting his Nazism at the highest level, for decades after the war, belittling the true and noble German soldiers and officers who resisted Hitler for the best reasons.


  2. Kevin Berger Says:

    Not quite on the topic, but I thought you’d like this anyway, as you’ve often mentioned this tidbit :


  3. gmax Says:

    People do not perceive the danger. Folks don’t care and Obama was incompetent. He let the French down with Assad, and then Putin decided he was weak, so he moved into Crimea. Now there is this crazy Korean nuke built and Obama does nothing. Clinton had more balls. So Xi now mimics Putin in China sea.

    Obama talks peace, he prepares war. Without a clue


  4. indravaruna Says:

    Hitler fought for European Civillization, we’re all slaves of the Judaic-American Empire.

    Jews are pushing for a confrontation in Ukraine with Russia, look for Victoria Nuland, Robert Kagan, George Soros, jews want WWIII.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Hitler was himself a Jew, according to the governor general of Poland, Hans Frank.

      Thus, at best, Hitler and his followers were therefore completely confused. Calling the Nazis civilized is insanity. The first thing a civilization does is to survive. Once Nazism got in a fight to death with the Franks, its probability of survival was very low.

      Jews have long served European civilization. Why would the masters kill their servants? Confusion, once again. The Nazis killed Jews so much, they killed themselves. Obviously, they were dedicated masochists.

      The Ukraine founded Russia as a colony. The USA itself started as a European colony. Having Russia conquer the Ukraine is like having the USA conquer Europe. It has nothing to do with Judaism. Kagan and Nuland are a couple, and Soros may remember when the Soviets were allied to the Nazis. So do I.

      I despise Nuland.


  5. ianmillerblog Says:

    Some minor comments. According to an account I have seen, Germany first started bombing military targets in the Battle of Britain, but one lot or one plane got lost at night and bombed London instead of the docks. Britain responded on Berlin, and it was all on, except that Germany did not have strategic bombers, nor, for that matter, a strategic plan. Nevertheless, whatever you think of the rest of the bombing, the fire bombing of Dresden was for me a war crime. It had absolutely no impact on the war at all.

    The great losses by the Russians were in part self-inflicted. Stalin had ordered troops to charge Germans, and to make sure they did, he had NKVD machine guns behind them. Win or die! And at Stalingrad, half the troops were charging unarmed, with instructions to pick up rifles from those shot.

    As for the fanatical Nazis, there most certainly were many, but a lot of others were just doing their duty, as they saw it. I rather fancy that many Germans just shut their eyes or put their head in a bag prior to the war, confirmed in part from a relative of mine who was in Germany studying for 1938. It would take a lot of courage to stand up against Hitler without an organisation behind you, because it would have been civil war. It is here that many go the German Generals were to blame because early on they could have done something. And as for fighting to the end, what else could soldiers do? If someone else is shooting at you, there isn’t much else to do but shoot back. In my view, the biggest crime of Hitler et al was the Hitler Youth, where they really indoctrinated the young to be fanatical nazis, and then later used them essentially as cattle fodder.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dresden was in February 1945. I had an uncle, a French prisoner of war, there. He survived. Dresden a war crime? No impact? It was a major railroad link. the problem is that the then-horrendous Nazis had started a world war. They war crimed, and war crimed and war crimed and war crimed, and so on and so forth. Bombing Polish mills: that was October 1939. Guernica was 1936. So Bomber Harris and the Americans got overexcited about Dresden. Frankly, my dear, as Clark Gable said, I don’t give a damn. Nazis got what they wanted: extermination in their midst.

      I speak German, I have German family (distant), German friends… And I also had Nazi sympathizers in my own family (that led me to questions at age 6, when a cousin told me it was all Hitler’s fault, but average Germans were just snow white…). I give them Nazis no quarters. Call that my African-cannibal side.

      The story of bombing is as I said. Nazis started it. The bombing campaign on Britain started July 10, 1940, after the Duke of Windsor had recommended it to Adolf Hitler. It was targeting military stuff, mostly airfields. Just when the RAF was going to break, in early September, the Nazis switched to city attacks (first of all London). That’s when they lost any hope to land in Britain (Churchill was determined to use poison gas and poisonous water…).

      The most serious battle was Moscow. In December 1941. The NKVD had “blocking sections” indeed. The idea was to have Soviets more terrified of the NKVD than of the NSDAP…

      All of Germany’s 80 millions were held by 7,000 Gestapo agents. East Germany was held by 170,000 Stasi agents… Willingness on one side of history, coercion on the other…


      • ianmillerblog Says:

        Yes, Dresden was a major railway junction, but by then Germany had hardly any trains, its air force could not fly because it had no fuel, and it was painfully obvious that Germany was finished. No need to kill so many so far away from the railway, and as an aside, in the firestorm, the railway was the most likely to survive. Yes, as far as I am concerned most of the Nazis deserved to be disposed of, as Tacitus so aptly put it in his Histories, “in the usual way”. (I.e. three standard military nails.)


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