Qur’an Has Everything To Do With It

War scenes in Saint Denis, north of Paris. A seven hour battle, one Salafist woman exploded herself, another terrorist was shot dead, but seven were captured alive (police uses blinding stun grenades). The information about their location was obtained in diverse manners, including amateurs videos.

Dalil Boubakeur, head of Paris Grand Mosque, France’s most prominent Muslim, condemned in the strongest words Muslim terrorists. He claims he saw reports on 1,100 Muslim terrorists inside France, who, he insists, should be arrested immediately. I agree. I agree with all the measures he proposes like throwing out bad imams, closing bad mosques, and having all imams being taught French law, and instilling it, etc. However, the fundamental texts of Islam contain huge amounts of prescribed violence described as orders from God. (It gets even worse with the Hadith, which is much more explicit, even ordering to kill all Jews to have the final judgment: Hadith 41; 685 and the like.)

(There are 7,800 “Fiche S” Islamist terrorists in France. Most of them are not followed: following one individual takes tens of inspectors. There is only one solution: explusion.)

War Against Qur’an In Paris, Nov. 18, 2015

War Against Qur’an In Paris, Nov. 18, 2015

However, I do not agree with Boubakeur’s basic precept that: “The Islamist State is not Islam.”

This the fundamental error. The Islamist State is pure Islam.

If Boubakeur does not want pure Islam, that is, of course, perfect. legally, sociologically and politically necessary, and desirable in all ways. Certainly pure Islam should be condemned and discarded.

It is not just a question of sexism:

Quran 2:223 – “Men have authority over women because God has made the former superior to the latter, and because men spend their wealth to maintain women. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and forsake them in beds apart, and beat them up.”

No, it’s a question of basic security. God, as depicted in the Qur’an, is a maniac:

Quran 3:56 – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

Quran 5:33 – “Crucify or amputate the hands and feet of those who make war against Allah and Muhammad. This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”

Quran 5:38 – “As for the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah..”

Quran 8:12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.”

Great Britain under Tony Blair (a plutocrat often decried here) took drastic measures against Islam in 2005. Special services were enabled. The leading Islamist in London, long free to express his venom, in the guise of freedom of speech, was deported to the USA, where he was promptly condemned to life in prison.

Russia engaged long range supersonic bombers, and now totals one third of its entire strategic force.   France will ramp up with even more air force within a few days, double what she engaged in Libya. Putin ordered his forces to cooperate with the French, including at sea.

The Prime Minister of Qatar was received in Paris by the French PM. Discreetly (however, there was a red carpet). Qatar, at best, enables Muslim terrorist groups finances… And, at worst, finance them directly.

The most shocking sequence from the battle was a young Salfist woman who testified on TV about the battle. Only her eyes could be seen, the rest of her was covered by a black garb. How can that be legal?

It should not be.

First the United Nations recognizes that attacking a people culture’s on its own territory (here Salafists invading Europe) is a form of holocaust (more precisely, the Geneva Convention does).

Second, just as important, the French police gathered important information on the terrorists from videos, and the faces they saw. (The problem of women, or even men hiding bombs showed up during the Algerian War; paratroopers defeated it by using torture so quickly they got information which allowed to reveal the entire networks, and terminate them; that was completely different, though, from the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld sort of torture which was very wrong for many reasons.)

The established order is very bad, granted. Yet what the Qur’an proposes is way worse.

Why is the Qur’an so bad? Precisely because its very badness took the more civilized Greco-Romans and Persians completely flat footed. Before they knew it, their best warriors and potential draftees were all dead. It’s a long story; Persian and Romans expected slavery and war prisoners, negotiations. Instead they got an enemy who killed the wounded on battlefields, and sent assassins all over the land to kill every man who could bear arms.

Meanwhile in Marseilles three youths with ISIS clothing stabbed a Jewish teacher. Meanwhile WordPress promoted an entire set of essays on the Paris tragedy, in a mixture of  Politically Correct and New Age mood (what makes us sad is good, because we will find our true selves). I sent comments, they were censored. So was a quote from Voltaire. In other happy new, the New York Times has censored me 100% throughout this episode. What these outfits are doing is to, actually support Islamist terrorism (no I did not send such a comment to them, this is strictly between us). Methinks that the absolute censorship of any not just critique, but even quotes of the Qur’an, as above, is the real root of the problem. From what I figured out now looking at time stamps,  a quote in the Qur’an long agois probably why The Guardian censors me. This is an amazing state of affairs: if one quotes reality, one gets censored. No wonder Islamists are angry (in a way I am in the same boat as they are, just from the other side of the Styx).

If nothing else, this entire adventure should spawned a renewed interest in real history, and how it breeds moods.

Patrice Ayme’

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8 Responses to “Qur’an Has Everything To Do With It”

  1. Patrice Ayme Says:

    I am censored on many Main Stream Media, including some which claim to be left wing (although I am arguably “left wing” myself). For example the Daily Kos, Huff post, etc.

    In the latest development WordPress censored several of my comments and one from my friend Voltaire. I send them this:
    ***

    Could you please tell me why you censored Voltaire and me?

    You say you provide “analysis” of the events in Paris. I have lived in Muslim countries for decades, from infancy. This is where I grew up. Now if I say that Voltaire wrote a play:
    “Muhammad ou l’Intolerance”, you censor me?

    If I quote the Qur’an, will you censor me too?

    Here you go, and you can, and should check these are exact quotes (and yes there are hundreds like that):

    Quran 3:56 – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

    Quran 5:33 – “Crucify or amputate the hands and feet of those who make war against Allah and Muhammad. This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”

    Quran 5:38 – “As for the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off their hands as punishment for what they have earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah..”

    Quran 8:12 – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.”

    The first victim of this sort of orders are the people from the countries who have to live under them. To hide such quotes is to become accomplices of this order of terror. (It’s very similar to being determined to conceal the existence of Auschwitz.)

    You say “you are proud of providing a platform for sharing those stories”

    Do your stories include reality?

    I hope you can take a moment and use it to reflect on what you are doing. To keep on hiding this sort of things is quite a bit as if one were in 1500 CE, and hiding the orders of the Inquisition. In a sense, it is worse, because anybody can read the Qur’an. Hiding selectively quotes from it, is something that not even the Islamist State does.

    Sincerely yours.

  2. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Also censored:

    “To answer one of the questions above, the soccer stadium was attacked because soccer is wildly popular in Muslim countries, especial Arabic ones. Islamist State denounced that as “idolatry”, and quoted the appropriate penalty in Qur’an.”

    One day there will be a law forbidding censorship when comments are allowed, because it “LEADS” (n the LEGAL sense) the WITNESSES.

  3. aaron Says:

    it scares me that Obama is so foolish…lately, whenever i see him speak, he is defensive, petulant, almost like he’s hiding something…one thing is for sure, he is blind…indeed, the truth, as you say, is not political correct….i’m glad Charles Martel didn’t say to his men….” fellas, we have to let them in, why, they’re just human beings, just like us”…. i mention the battle of Tours, and no one knows what i am talking about……

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      The battle of Tours/Poitier (732 CE) was only the second crushing defeat of the Islamists.
      The first one was Toulouse in 721 CE, when Eudes, Aquitania Dux killed at least 100,000 Islamists: a hard day’s work.

      Next would be Narbonne (~ 748 CE). Charles Martel crushed that third invasion too.
      France has always been the terminating place for Islamism.

      In the Tenth Century, a Frankish army freed Rome form the Islamists who had invaded it. Then the Franks freed Southern Italy, Sicily…
      Time to finish it off.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Telling us that “Islam is peace” is a general thing. Obama is just following a madness that blossomed BEFORE Obama was even born. Tellingly enough, it was born among French INTELLECTUALS. I am running out of adjectives to express my contempt for them. Fundamentally, they were lazy racist drugged on tobacco…

      What Obama is hiding is the fact he knows this is all BS. He knows that saying Islam has nothing to do with it is BS. Just imagine, for a moment, that Obama would read this site…. Would he not know, by now, that the official mood about Islam is BS? Now, it turns out my points of view, long held, in spite of censorship (including from WordPress!) are gaining traction.

      Obama gets lots of his opinions, he says NOT from intelligence reports… But from people such as yours truly.

      This being said, he is stuck, because it is to PHILOSOPHERS to forge ahead, until lesser minds can refer to them. Officially leading French intellectuals, increasingly, are realizing the truth… But not enough of them… If this site was read by millions, things would change quickly (and all moderate Muslims would applaud).

  4. picard578 Says:

    Reblogged this on Defense Issues and commented:
    Fact is that multiculturalism is wrong. It breeds conflict, formality, intolerance. And just FYI: I have no problem with people from Muslim countries coming to Europe – assuming that they return home and use knowledge they gain to better their home societies. But that goes against neoliberal anti-human, anti-nation, anti-Christianity, anti-European policies. Goal behind the wars all over the muslim world, reason for why US created ISIS, is destruction of traditional Europe and creation of politically correct, shallow, unicultural (Western-type multiculturalism always ends in uniculturalism) United States of Europe, ruled by corporations, for corportations and against people, using intercultural conflicts caused by mass immigration to keep masses in check.

  5. CFR Says:

    CFR:
    The root of the problem is inside the Qur’an. Some of the Qur’an is very good, however, hundreds of verses prone violence. That violence goes all the way to presenting the killing of many categories of people as orders from God. Killing people of these categories, including “unbelievers”, “pagans”, “idolaters”, homosexuals, “apostates”, etc. insures, say the Hadith, a direct access to paradise.

    Thus an entire system of thought in Islam solves all existential angst… by killing those categories. However, those categories of people are protected by the United Nation charter (mostly) and certainly the constitutions of all democracies. For direct quotes, see:

    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/quran-has-everything-to-do-with-it/

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Only one question for the pseudo intellectuals who dominate the Main Stream Media: have you read Qur’an and Hadith? Can you quote from them?
      And don’t tell me the Bible is the same: we don’t live under Bible rule.

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