A Simple Request: That Legal Religions Do Not Call For Killing People

If The Romans Already Did It, Why Can’t We?

Indeed, the Romans outlawed any religion conducive to human sacrifice. Let’s heed their example. Each time someone preaches, in the name of god, dog, or the local camel messenger, to kill some category of people, let’s put them in jail for ten years. And if they keep on preaching there, makes that solitary confinement (hey, that’s what Sultan Saladin imposed in the Twelfth Century: I have the best advisers!)

We hear this, we hear that. Some people say we should not fear religions who want to kill us, or which want to kill entire categories of people we view as innocent. Out of respect. What? Respect for whom? The executioners? I have nothing against executioners, as long as they execute for good reasons.

We also hear that what is good for one, is bad for the other, and vice versa, so it all does not matter, everything is relative. Except, not everything is relative. Poincare’ named the “Principle of Relativity”, relativity of UNIFORM motion. Accelerated motion is something else entirely. It is not relative. Actually a twin accelerated close to light speed lives longer, because she is the one accelerating at some point. So physics does not say all is relative, far from it.

State of Islamists: Killing (Ethiopian) Christians, Just Because They Are Christians

State of Islamists: Killing (Ethiopian) Christians, Just Because They Are Christians

[Men straddling squirming men: cheap sexual thrill?]

Who is “we”? The Charter of the United Nations, in other words the Rights of Man and the Citizen. That, too, is not relative. The Rights of Man are anchored in human ethology, the Cult of Man.

I was watching a debate on German TV, brandishing approvingly considerations of Mr. Macron, the plutocratic French finance minister, claiming “Muslim violence” was related to poverty and exclusion.  I subscribe myself to this thesis, and have done so for ever. However, it’s getting to be so much yesterday.

Material poverty can be boosted by intellectual poverty. Ordering all of one’s life around “reciting” the same little book, makes for a very small brain.

Exclusion is no doubt facilitated by a literally religious urge, to kill one’s neighbors, and all sorts of them. I have provided with enough quotes to make it clear that so it is with the “Cult of Death’s” most sacred texts.

Here are quotes I did not use before, and found in the Hadith, the indispensable, loquacious companion to the all-too short Qur’an:

Muhammad Got His Critics Killed (Think Charlie Hebdo):

Hadith from Bukhari:V4B52N270 “Allah’s Messenger said, ‘Who is ready to kill Ashraf? He has said injurious things about Allah and His Apostle.’ Maslama got up saying, ‘Would you like me to kill him?’ The Prophet proclaimed, ‘Yes.’

Hadith from Ishaq 551: “Another victim was Huwayrith. He used to insult Muhammad in Mecca. Huwayrith was put to death by Ali.

Ishaq:597 “When the Apostle returned to Medina after his raid on Ta’if, word spread that he had killed some of the men who had satirized and insulted him. The scared poets who were left, ran away in all directions.”

State of Islamists: Slicing Throats Of Egyptian Christians Just As Muhammad In The Hadith

State of Islamists: Slicing Throats Of Egyptian Christians Just As Muhammad In The Hadith

[Yes, gory again, and I don’t condone goriness; however those who avert their eyes, DO condone it, because they refuse their hearts to get agitated by horrors: that makes them anxious to live in good intelligence with horror. There again, Christians were assassinated just for being Christians who happened to be in Libya, a land which was Christian for six centuries, before being invaded by Islamists propelled by Muhammad’s Hadith and Qur’an; comment below the picture is a translation from the Islamist State; Egypt retaliated by bombing the Islamist State.]

Serious doctors and students of the Islamist Faith know that, interpreted textually, literally, as it is, the Faith is completely incompatible with civilization. For civilization to survive, this has to be understood in a timely manner. In a more timely manner than was understood with Christianism. (Which nearly destroyed civilization, especially around 400 CE.)

Muhammad Punished Well:

Ishaq 595 “The Apostle said, ‘Get him away from me and cut off his tongue.””

Ishaq:316 “Following Badr, Muhammad sent a number of raiders with orders to capture some of the Meccans and burn them alive.”

(A little horror is most persuasive!)

Muhammad Killed Refuseniks and Apostates:

Sunan Abu -Dawud,4390  “Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi: I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.”

Ishaq:551: “The Messenger [Muhammad] ordered Miqyas’ assassination because he became a renegade by rejecting Islam.”

Bukhari:V4B52N260: “The Prophet said, ‘If a Muslim discards his religion, kill him.'”

Tabari VIII:143 ” He set out with fifteen men. He encountered a large force whom he summoned to Islam. They refused to respond so he killed all of them.”

Surprise Attacks on Villages Brings Booty and Captured Women:

Bukhari:V5B59N512 “The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of Fear] near Khaybar when it was still dark. He said, ‘Allahu-Akbar!’ [Allah is Greatest] ‘ Then the inhabitants came out running on their roads. The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were taken as captives.”
The Prophet enjoyed 17 year old Safia as his share of booty.

Bukhari vol 3,Book46, No. 717: “Narrated Ibn Aun: The Prophet had suddenly attacked Bani Mustaliq without warning while they were heedless and their cattle were being watered at the places of water. Their fighting men were killed and their women and children were taken as captives; the Prophet got Juwairiya on that day.” (Reference: Waqqidi, Tabari)

So why have we become weaker morally than the Romans? The Romans of the Republic?

Because, meanwhile, lethally minded, apocalyptically longing Christianism passed by, and Islamism is its mentally retarded desert progeny (although Judaism was the other participant of this hellish union). Because also, more recently, plutocrats have realized their colleagues in Saudi Arabia and the like, were their natural allies and collaborators. Thus, the more severe Islamism, natural enemy of civilization, was favored. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, thought plutocrats, and they control the media, so they could make it so, and program the public for its own destruction.

Plutocrats control not just the media , but also the politicians, and, also, all those who passed, all too long, for the wisest philosophers the world could produce. And were nothing of the sort: celebrity philosophers (Sartre, Camus, “French Theorists” etc.) who, in the end, just preached the destruction of the civilization which harbor them, should be abhorred, rather than harbored.

Meanwhile, in Paris, at the CO2 conference, the possibility of limiting warming to 1.5 degree Centigrade was seriously considered.
To do so, though, one will have to touch all forms of transportation, including air transport, which emits 12% of transport CO2. However the COP 21 Paris conference excluded air transportation from the talks.

It’s the same problem as with the Cult of Death: why to make exceptions? Why to exclude the Cult of Death from the spirit of the law? Why to exclude air transportation from the spirit of the law? Should not the law apply to all equally?

If one is a plutocrat, or an obsequious servant of plutocrats, one knows the answer to this: of course not. The very fundamental principle of plutocracy is inequality. Pain and evil are made to be applied by the masters, and the low lives’ existence is justified only as the indispensable servants and recipients of pain and evil.

Patrice Ayme’




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10 Responses to “A Simple Request: That Legal Religions Do Not Call For Killing People”

  1. Paul Handover Says:

    Apologies for keeping my head down. Planning for my book launch and signings for this coming weekend have been dominating my life!


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      We have been missing you… Many are things in my life I don’t do, so I can do what I do. Part of the idea of living in a cave. Good luck with the book though. I know a friend who had no luck with his books for years, and he kept at it. Now his sales have exploded.(I still don’t have the time the time to read his novels, though: sssshhhhh…)


  2. Chris Snuggs Says:

    Great article to retain for the archive.

    The message of the Koran is evil (and often just nonsensical). That is why Cameron’s comment was so utterly moronic: “Islam is a great world religion of peace.”

    He is deranged, but then so is Merkel. Only Gerd Wilders and a couple of politicians from Hungary and the Czech Republic remain compos mentis.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Cameron is scared, and Cameron follows what the (pseudo-) intellectuals have said (themselves saying what their purse masters want them to say).
      A civilization can become deranged. And terminally so: see the case of the Roman State, which declined and fell (saved ultimately by the second foundation far-sighted Roman generals had helped to set-up).


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Merkel has a deeper problem: demographic collapse. I heard her mumble words to that effect in a debate…


  3. Gmax Says:

    Total carpet bombing on the respect we are supposed to extend to Islam and its prophet. And to think we are supposed not to fear people who believe that crap! Incredible! Did our leaders lose their minds?


  4. dominique deux Says:

    Well-found points as usual. Great that you singled out “exceptions” as a huge flaw in law enforcement.
    Exceptions are not an accident. They are a core weapon of plutocracy and organized crime (same thing really). That is because an exception, however well-founded at first sight (say, exempting little old ladies from property tax), can be used as a seed to engineer huge loopholes – and that is its usual purpose.
    When you inflate a rubber balloon (assuming you need one), you know that, if its surface is 99.9999% airtight but a single pinhole is present, it will deflate or explode. That is why plutocrats and gangsters are perfectly happy to visibly assist in inflating rubber balloons beneficial to the planet and its inhabitants (and therefore noxious to them), as long as they keep a supply of needles to prick them with. The air transport exception is a case in point.
    Falstaff had a ready solution: first, let’s kill all the lawyers. A bit too radical though. Gotta find exceptions.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      In the USA, up to 97% of “”””legal””” “judgments” are from plea bargaining… which allows to “convicts” thus, most “convicts” in the USA which does not convinced me at all. So you may say most of American justice is a justice of exception… And thus, as usual, a very bad example for the rest of the world.

      Fundamentally, it’s the same idea as tipping. Power makes a difference, and one has to have the occasion to remind everybody of that, at any time. Lawyers are not at fault, the legislative process is. Maybe the whole legal arsenal should be reconsidered with plebiscites… Say the tax system.

      The proposition would be this: tax according to an exponential with a cut-off. Then legislators would be in charge of the details…. Instead what they have now is thousands of pages of loopholes, violating the spirit of taxing the exponential….


  5. dominique deux Says:

    About the narrow mindset learning a small book by rote can produce. Sure. But consider the many branches of Islam (and other Abrahamic religions) which have grown out of the compulsion to kill. Their scholars’ knowledge of their respective Holy Screeds usually is word-perfect too. People who can quote any verse of the Bible as needed are not all brain-dead pulpit thumpers, they also include progressive theologians who even doubt the Boss’ existence as such. Abd el Kader, a truly great leader who had a deeply felt respect for human rights, allowed his captives to practice their own creeds and freed them if he could not feed them (even as the French army was conducting a scorched earth strategy), and had a number of French advisors, is a case in point. He was famous for knowing the Coran by heart at the age of twelve. That feat of memorizing did not stunt his intellectual development, maybe even the reverse. Only already narrow minds are made narrower.
    As an aside, after perusing your photographs: I had taken to calling Jihadists “the creeps”; but I think now the right appellation is “the gimps”.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Islam, as I used to know it in Black Africa, was more progressive and open minded than even the Catholicism found there (which itself was much more open minded than anything in Europe). It is true that one can get much smarter by taking a horrible song into a beautiful melody, than in just doing laying supine.

      The Islam I knew in my childhood, I am afraid, is greatly gone. Once my mom and me were rescued by a Touareg on his camel in south-west Hoggar. He gave us water, told us where to go. The French army had seen deadly combat in the same area against fanatical Jihadists who came there in SUVs… from far away, financed by even more distant plutocrats in robes…

      Greatly gone does not mean dead, though. It should be revived. Surely, if countries such as Saudi Arabia, resting on a resource poisoning the planet, can have such a great influence, that of Europe, led by France, can be even greater. Not that France is perfect: the mess in Algeria could have been avoided, by sticking closer to the Human Rights Charter. But then, of course, just as the 21 C is dominated by plutocrats, it was not any better in the 19 C. Policies which look stupid now may, and surely were, motivated by power arguments we have forgotten now.


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