Trump: US “Not innocent…Got A Lot Of Killers”

Ask pseudo-democrats and pseudo-leftists, so noisy nowadays, and they will speak as if the history of the USA in the Middle East started on 9/11. They will generally not know that 9/11 was engineered by an Islamist conspiracy initially instigated by the USA. (Actually several Islamist conspiracies were instigated and entangled by the US Deep State; the main engineers were “Democratic” presidents Roosevelt and Carter.)

Please consider, for Carter’s villainous attack:

Yes, Carter killed millions, in the end. The war he and his goons directly engineered killed at least two million Afghans, five million refugees, and turned the country into an Islamist nightmare. And that was just the beginning. Millions more would die, in further consequences of great humanist Carter’s exploits. Carter can go, build houses with his bare hands to look good helping the poor: hopefully, history will nail him and his ilk.

Using Islam as a modern weapon of mass destruction, was, partly, an US idea (expanding on the genius of the Saudi family, associated with Wahhabism, Literal Islam, since the 1700s…) President Roosevelt was that engineer, in his last strategy, before he croaked, and after giving half of Europe to Stalin (divide and conquer!)

After Destroying the Democratic Republic in Afghanistan, the US turned it into an Islamist State, Similar to Saudi Arabia. After 9/11, the USS recreated an Islamist Republic in Afghanistan, as it Had In Pakistan Next Door.

Jews! The French! In Afghanistan! What of the US? After Destroying the Democratic Republic in Afghanistan, the US turned it into an Islamist State, Similar to Saudi Arabia. After 9/11, the USS recreated an Islamist Republic in Afghanistan, as it Had In Pakistan Next Door.

Young US citizens are imprinted to believe that “conspiracy theorists” are deranged, and to stay away from them. Thus US youth stay away from any representation of a conspiracy. Their appreciation of history is reduced to screaming USA USA USA USA. Or if of the pseudo-democratic indoctrination, nowadays, to call everybody they don’t understand a “racist” (just as the Nazis did!)

When someone set to move the world, that someone is never alone, though. And, especially when they are up to no good, their mindset is not for the whole world to know. Instead they together-breathe (con-spirare) with a small group.

Example: the US government secretly decided to attack the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan in the 1970s. Afghanistan had been previously peaceful, open, safe. However the potential development of its mineral riches by French and Russian interests threatened US hegemony. Notice that this was not about Afghanistan itself. It was about the US fighting France and Russia.

So the US unleashed the Islamist Republic of Pakistan’s ISI. When that was not enough, Carter ordered the CIA to attack the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan (July 3, 1979) and then Saudi Arabia, and, finally Ben Laden.

The “official” reason given to the French by the Carter National Security Adviser, was that Islamism would destroy the USSR. Knowing there was a defense treaty between the Soviet Union and the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan made the Carted White House confident that the USSR would be drawn in. From the point of view of the Carter and then Reagan White Houses, attacking elementary schools for girls was a sure method to draw the Russians in (yes, Afghani elementary schools for girls were recommended even as a target for Bin Laden’s goons).

Before the full-scale US attack on the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan, the country was definitively not Islamist. Consider the “Old Jew” of Picasso, in French, as an Afghan national stamp (above). 

Notice the US used Islamism as a weapon. First through Pakistan, then through the CIA, then through Saudi Arabia, then through Ben Laden.

This is why the US Deep State was careful not to punish the Saudis for 9/11: the Saudis were acting as tools for the US. Some mercenaries (GIA, Bin Laden) went rogue. So what? It always happens with mercenaries: consider Carthage (and what happened to Carthage when its mercenaries rebelled during the Second Punic War). Consider the European Middle Ages, when rogues mercenaries constituted entire armies. (Moreover, the GIA inflicted damage to Algeria and France, which is always a good thing for part of the mentality of the US Deep State inherited from Roosevelt!)

US support for Islamism has consequences. Just to consider the case of Algeria, the so-called war of independence killed a million, and the second war, in the 1990s, against the GIA (Groupe Islamist Arme’) killed 200,000. The GIA guys trained in Afghanistan. The Franco-Algerian civil war was the long born fruit of Roosevelt’s hatred for the French empire. Roosevelt wished to replace it by the US empire; and overall make the European influence world into a US dependency (FDR was very explicit on this to his baffled aides, who did not get the plutocratic picture; differently from FDR, who was a top plutocrat, from a dynasty of plutocrats)

We have to face what we want to change. Here is an interview of the US insurgent president, two weeks in his presidency:

O’Reilly (FOX News): Do you respect Putin?

President Trump: I do respect him but —

O’Reilly: Do you? Why?

Trump: Well, I respect a lot of people but that doesn’t mean I’m going to get along with him. He’s a leader of his country. I say it’s better to get along with Russia than not. And if Russia helps us in the fight against ISIS, which is a major fight, and Islamic terrorism all over the world — that’s a good thing. Will I get along with him? I have no idea.

O’Reilly: But he’s a killer though. Putin’s a killer.

Trump: There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What do you think — our country’s so innocent. You think our country’s so innocent?

O’Reilly: I don’t know of any government leaders that are killers.

Trump: Well — take a look at what we’ve done too. We made a lot of mistakes. I’ve been against the war in Iraq from the beginning.

O’Reilly: But mistakes are different than —

Trump: A lot of mistakes, but a lot of people were killed. A lot of killers around, believe me.


What you can’t face, you can’t change. Trump is facing US governmental criminality.

This is an important step. Forward. Progress.

What you can’t face, you can’t change.

Pseudo-leftists on plutocratic payroll, reaching new heights of dishonesty, already construed the preceding as Trump’s support for Putin! How unreal can one get?

Real leftists can only approve president Trump’s admission about the culpability of the US. Above I explained how Carter engineered the war in Afghanistan (not just for hegemony, but also as a continuation of the Pakistan policy of the US, itself meant to handicap India). In many essays, I have exposed the abysmal machinations of the US Deep State, ever since June 1914. Those machinations helped make the US (white) population the richest in the world. To function properly, they had to kill millions of people, as James Baldwin also said.

Actually, the number of people killed was rather in the dozens of millions; see the wealth of details I rolled out to explain how the US plutocracy turned World War One and World War Two into cash cows… After crucially instigating them, just so.

Many cans of worms the ruling plutocracy wants the rabble never to visit: they explain too much, otherwise mysterious and crazy, history. Trump’s revisiting of history, from a more realistic angle, is something plutocracy, cannot live with. Literally. For realists who want progress out of today’s morass, it’s the exact opposite.

So, indeed, Trump is fessing up. What is there, for true progressives, not to like?

Patrice Ayme’

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40 Responses to “Trump: US “Not innocent…Got A Lot Of Killers””

  1. SDM Says:

    Is there any indication Trump is willing to go after the Saudis? Or would that be too much for him?

    Trump is intent on “taking on” the press and the could be more than he can handle. The mainstream media have a bit of a love-hate relationship with him. Hence Bill O ‘s reluctance to let Putin angle pass and push that issue. It should continue to be quite interesting.

    What is the best source for info in the Carter Afghanistan plan?


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I have the interview of ZB, Carter’s Nat. Sec. Adviser, in my essay…
      Trump has to seriate problems. I had a show-down with BBC about Islamist attacks last night: they entirely omitted some countries (the most affected).

      Trump can’t attack everybody at same time. Actually a Saudi capital ship was suicide bombed last week, in the high seas by a fast boat. At this point, situation in Saudi Arabia is very complex.
      Were I president, I would make points of attacks.

      Last week, while doing the travel ban and proffering his manly love for Putin, Trump moved US tanks in Baltics by surprise. Putin replied by firing 10,000 shells into Ukraine in 24 hours. Pluto media spoke of it not, or did not see the relationship.

      Saudi Arabia is a philosophical irritant, but they did what was convened in 1945, and never questioned since. They have been good allies, they love (secretly) Israel. Were I president, I would tewll them fossil fuels have 20 years at best, and urge them to go with what they started.

      SA is not Pakistan or North Korea, or China, or even Russia. I would advise, and encourage them to extend the situation in Jeddah to the whole country… Moreover, it’s an ally against the crazed Mollahs in Iran. SA could go nuclear, they are not trying…


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Google Patrice Ayme Afghanistan Carter, and you get the essay… My father was involved in the attempted development of Afghanistan as both French state and UN geologist… My parents went all over the country at the time… My father’s friend and coleague, Lapparent, headed the French geological missions in Afghanistan at the behest of the Democratic Republic of Afghanistan… They found for billions of easily extractable minerals…


  2. Gmax Says:

    Yeah we have an epic failure of the left, and it’s not from yesterday. Funny we have Trump to tell the truth


  3. Paul Handover Says:

    Having just read out aloud your latest to Jeannie as we enjoy our second post-breakfast cup of tea, all I can offer is my thanks, as in sincere thanks, for your essays.

    I’m preparing for my citizenship examination coming up in a few weeks. Reading about that first writing of the American Constitution and the checks and balances built in to the foundation of American democracy. To say I am impressed with how it all came about is an understatement! At its heart this country is a fine Nation. I feel good knowing this is the country in which I will eventually die.

    Yet! Yet, present-day America seems very lost. As much of the modern world seems very lost.

    The current President is very different to what the American people have become accustomed to. For very different read unknown. Fear of the unknown is intimately connected to that earliest of all human motivations: tribalism. Something you and I have discussed elsewhere!

    In my opinion, this is at the heart of a media industry that has gone mad. An industry that collectively is lost in an unfamiliar political landscape and is screaming out in fear!

    Damn! My tea has now gone cold!


  4. SDM Says:

    For some truth telling, it nevertheless appears Trump is more interested in getting his cabinet packed with self-dealing billionaires bent on privatization and even blatant racists.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I want to be educated about these blatant racists. I want to know what they really said. After I was the object of an internet campaign claiming I was a “racist troll” (no detail given, and I am NOT a racist), I would tend to feel empathy to those accused of racism…


  5. SDM Says:

    With the backing of Robert Mercer, Trump is a tool of the 1%.
    He may not be totally under control but look at his choices:

    Rex Tillerson, Andrew Puzder, Linda McMahon, Stephen Swharzman, Todd Ricketts, Gary Cohn, Steve Bannon, Betsy DeVos, Elaine Chao, Wilbur Ross, Steven Mnuchin, Carl Icahn, Peter Theil. These are the true faces of a Trump presidency.

    The Bizarre Far-Right Billionaire Behind Bannon and Trump’s Presidency


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      What acts is actions, not what’s behind. Obama defined himself as what’s behind, and he indeed stayed behind. We will see what Trump does. The accumulated tasks are the greatest ever. Some of these tasks are extremely dangerous. Sleeping beauty Obama is now cavorting with billionaires…

      Amusingly I met a woman who was 100% pro-Clinton, and nearly stopped befriending me when she found out I did not vote for Clinton. However, to my surprise, now she does not look negatively at DeVos (something about vouchers). I have another friend, a math prof, who is sort of the reverse: she thought Clinton was rotten, but she told me DeVos had to be stopped. When I asked why, in details, nothing.

      I have no idea what Trump will do. If I were Trump I suspect I would not know what I would do either… Look at the ban of the ban. Clearly Trump, however nuts in implementation, was in his presidential right… However, so-called judges asked completely gossipy, irrelevant questions today (I listened to them)…


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      All Pluto faces mean nothing. Obama also used mighty, parachuted potentates. What will count are the policies. Lots of generals too…
      Meanwhile, let’s enjoy Obamacare…


      • SDM Says:

        Comparing Trump to Obama is just saying they both do it. That it is the problem. Trump wants to be admired and to be in total control but it would appear that perhaps his cabinet may not be of his own choosing either. For someone who posed as an outsider he is not looking outside the box for a cabinet. Just more swamp.


        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Once again, we will see. Obama is a done deal, a follower of plutocrats, a tool.

          Trump is a plutocrat, and at least half of revolutions involved plutocrats turning against their kind. The French Revolution of 1789 is example number one. Also the Bolshevik Revolution (the Kaiser made it so). Also the Invasion/Revolution of 1066 CE, etc.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Very interesting link. However I wrote about the multibillionaire Simons, behind Mercer, for years. Long ago. I am against what they are doing. I know what they are doing.

      Simons is Simons from Chern-Simons classes, an authentic genius mathematician… So I know a bit more than Chris Hedges on the subject… I have written long essays about why this was all rotten. But my arguments are highly twchnical: cause-effect, speed of interaction, inequity, moving markets, etc….


  6. Paul Handover Says:

    As a relatively new member of this America I struggle to find my way about the political landscape.

    But with the arrival of Pres. D. Trump, and to extend the metaphor, that landscape is growing ever darker and the distant hills are fading behind clouds of war.

    And as we all know that the first casualty in a war is: Truth!

    I may have used this expression before so my apologies!


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      The war problem was there before. Obama went a bit one way, then reached his apogee with Libya (which was truly a French attack, itself the conclusion of a 30+ year war of France with Qaddafi, which was fought all over the Sahel). After that, Obama shrunk. At the last second, he fled and left the French all exposed, when he refused to get rid of Assad (givin the field to Putin).

      Right now, the probability of nuclear war from the will of states, is higher than ever before. That has nothing to do with Trump, but to a long slowly decomposing situation… Which Obama did not adress.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Besides, plutocrats have been waging war against We The People, and their main weapon is the plutocratically owned or influenced media. NYT, WashPo, BBC, NPR, PBS…


      • SDM Says:

        The propaganda of the corporate media is a powerful tool. It can convince people to admire and support those who exploit them. Give them mindless celebrity, sports and the dream that they too may become “millionaires”.


        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Indeed. I was reading an article in The Atlantic, on the establishment of autocracy by Trump, after his very popular first term (!) They said he and his family got richer.
          Why not to stick with reality instead?
          Why don’t they look at the Obamas (mimimum worth 24 millions, 2015). Or Susan Rice (a multimillonaire, who only had government jobs, and why was she qualified for them?). Or Eric Holder (how does a 40 something attorney make a 17 million dollar fortune? And so on.

          The Atlantic is owned by someone called Bradley.

          David G. Bradley (born 1953)[1] is the owner of Atlantic Media, which publishes several prominent news magazines and services including The Atlantic, National Journal, Quartz, The Hotline and Government Executive.[2] Before his career as a publisher, Bradley founded the Advisory Board Company and Corporate Executive Board, two Washington-based consulting companies.

          Bradley was in the 400 richest in 2002, according to Forbes Magazine with a wealth of more than half a billion. He was 48 years old then. Since then he has become richer. Bradley had bought The Atlantic from well-known tycoon Zuckerman (at a very friendly price: Plutos love Plutos, except if name is Trump).


  7. Paul Handover Says:

    Further thoughts!

    Patrice, you wrote earlier in a comment: “What will count are the policies.”

    Wouldn’t argue with that principle in the slightest.

    But we are starting to see some policies coming from this administration; are we not!

    Specifically, I am thinking of the decision regarding Donald Trump signing an executive order to advance approval of the Keystone and Dakota Access oil pipelines.

    That is without doubt a terrible policy and one that offers no benefit at all. As was written recently in a piece promoted by Yves Smith:

    “As environmental economists, my colleague Anders Fremstad and I [Mark Paul, a postdoctoral associate at Duke University] were concerned. We crunched the numbers on the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL). The verdict? Annual emissions associated with the oil pumped through the pipeline will impose a $4.6 billion burden on current and future generations.”

    Read the full article here:

    Am I missing something?


  8. Ağrı Web Tasarım Says:

    From 1975 to 2015, terrorists from Trump's 7 Muslim nations killed no one in US while guns claimed 1.3 million lives… + İlave olarak There are 49,933 Homeless Vets in the US
    If you Spent the $21 Billion the Wall Would Cost, You could buy them each a $420,000 Home.



    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Hello Agri! And welcome! I sort of agree with your numbers. Although where did you get the 1.3 million (the Secession War, or just “RETWEET”?)
      But it’s not a question of numbers….
      It’s a question of philosophy.
      Suppose peaceful cannibals invaded the US and the West with their faith…
      Moreover, as I said in many essays, the attacks in France recently have mostly to do with immigrants/refugees/refugee flow/visitors.
      The Nice attacked which killed 85 (and maimed much more) was conducted by a Tunisian immigrant. In the Paris attack of November 13, 1015, several “refugees” from Iraq, Syria, blew up, or where arrested on their way (in Austria). The wanted terrorists went back and forth using refugee flows. The last attack in the Louvres was conducted by an Egyptian tourist.
      Why should we welcome war makers with a terrorist ideology?

      Even in USA, a Somali problem has surfaced, and requires huge human resources to be counteracted:

      Somali refugee Dahir Adan attacked nine Americans with a knife at a mall in St. Cloud, Minn. before an off-duty police officer shot and killed him on Sept. 17, 2016.
      Two months later Somali refugee Abdul Razak Ali Artan attacked 11 Americans with a knife and then a car on the campus of Ohio State University in Columbus before a campus police officer shot and killed him on Nov. 28, 2016.

      Omar Shafik Hammami (Arabic: عمر شفيق همّامي‎‎, ‘Umar Shafīq Hammāmī; 6 May 1984 – 12 September 2013),[1] also known by the pseudonym Abu Mansoor Al-Amriki (Arabic: أبو منصور الأمريكي‎‎, Abū Manṣūr al-Amrīkī), was an American citizen who was a member and leader in the Somali Islamist militant group al-Shabaab.[2] In November 2012, the FBI added Hammami to its Most Wanted Terrorists list. A federal warrant for his arrest was issued in 2007.

      Omar was raised in a Christian household with an American Protestant mother and a Syrian-born Muslim father.[3] Hammami began to identify as Muslim in high school, after traveling to Iraq and meeting his Muslim relatives, and proceeded to dropped out of college. After moving to Toronto, Ontario, Canada, and marrying a Somali-Canadian woman in 2004, he traveled with her to Egypt in 2005. He then abandoned his wife and infant daughter to join Al-Shabaab in Somalia in late 2006. They divorced, and by 2009 he had married a Somali woman and had another daughter.

      … Minnesota is home to the largest Somali community in the United States, and over the last six years, at least 22 Somali-American men have left the Twin Cities and joined al-Shabab, two of whom as recently as July 2012. These are only the confirmed cases; in fact, some community members say the number could be as high as 40. Dozens more from Minnesota and around the country have been indicted for providing material support to the terrorist group. Virtually all have been convicted. Many were inspired by recruitment videos like the one described above. Moreover, the FBI is “proceeding as if recruitment efforts are still occurring here in Minnesota,”


  9. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Sardonicky, Feb 21, 2017]

    Reducing the Deep State to bureaucracy is misinformation.

    The Deep State is, truly, the hereditary plutocracy and its hereditary structures (for example the plutocratic universities, and their provisions for scions). The Deep State has also a Deep Mood, which is trans-generational (hint: observe the richest families hereditary grip on wealth, power, foundations, politics).

    The Deep Mood hides the deep conspiracies and the plots which really worked so well (WWI, WWII, Islamism, etc.) that the vulgum does not even suspect their existence.


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