Islam – Religion of Peace or Totalitarian Ideology?

PRESENT DAY ISLAM IS A LIE, SAID AISHA:
I lived my childhood in Muslim countries, from the age of two weeks. Islam was then never a problem, it was a very tolerant and tolerable part of the landscape. I never had a problem with the call to prayer, anymore than I had with church bells. Both of them could be heard, as the places I grew up in enjoyed diverse version of “Sufi” Islam. “Sufism” is actually immensely varied. In West Africa it meant not only women didn’t wear a veil, but were going bare chested.

Now things have completely degenerated: Saudi and emirates’ wealth, discreetly propped by divisive Western plutocracy, have imposed a variant of Islam which was basically unknown when not outright outlawed eight centuries ago in the places of higher civilization (Sultanate of egypt, Abbasid Caliphate, Persia).

This unamusing version comes straight out of the Qur’an written by Uthman, Third Caliph, which Aisha, the child-bride wife of the Prophet, condemned and went to war about because, she said, it was a pack of lies and fake representations of what Muhammad thought. Interestingly, Aisha fought Ali at the Battle of the Camel, so she is hated by the Shia, too. Thus Aisha condemned both Sunni and Shia Islams.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

Picard, named after the Star Trek character, for his humanitarian logic, is a frequent commenter on this site and the author of the site “Defense Issues” has produced his own critical essay on Salafist Islam. (We are all severely criticizing, following Aisha’s notoriously free spirit!). This breath of fresh air is reproduced below.

Defense Issues

“Truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.”

  • Gloria Steinem

During times of universal deceit; telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

  • George Orwell

Censorship reflects society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime.

  • Potter Stewart

The worst form of inequality is to try make unequal things equal.

  • Aristotle

Political power comes from physical occupation: not historical rights, not title deeds, not moral rights – only occupation. Those people who occupy a territory determine the nature of the society in that region.

  • Arthur Kemp

There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. We don’t need terrorists, we don’t need homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims [in Europe] will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades.

  • Mu’ammar Al-Qadhafi, Libyan Leader, March 2007

Western liberals (including the current Pope)…

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15 Responses to “Islam – Religion of Peace or Totalitarian Ideology?”

  1. Tanguy Pluchet Says:

    July 1, 2017 • 3:16 pm
    Picard, first, congrats ! The amount of research you put in this post is bloody impressive !

    While I mostly agree with you, there is a point I’d like to discuss.
    You claim the average birth rate in France is 1,8, and 8,1 for muslims, that 45% of people of age 20 and younger are muslims in larger cities, and that muslims will be the majority of the population in 2055.

    I do know all these numbers are from a single French source, with not a single reference to back it up, and which was subsequently totally debunked all over the french-speaking internet.
    First, the average birthrate in France is just short of 2,1 children per women (according to the INSEE), thanks to extensive childcare that enables women to both work and have children.
    Second, take a look at this research from the PEW research center:
    http://www.pewforum.org/2011/01/27/future-of-the-global-muslim-population-regional-europe/

    According to them, there were 4,7 M muslims in France in 2010 (7.5% of the pop), and there will be 6.8 M in 2030 (around 10% of the pop). I must point out, however, that it is illegal to make studies trying to determine the percentage of a given ethnicity in the total population, and as such, it is impossible to know how many muslims there are in the nation. This is why a number of different figures are cited by different parties, be it by politically correct leftists, or by fear-surfing far-rightists.

    So, according to Le Monde Des Religions, there were 2.46 M muslims in France in 2007, 4,2 M in 2008 according to the INED, 4,7 M in 2010 according to PEW, from 5 to 10 M in 2010 according to Claude Guéant (our Minister of the Interior and the Cults at the time), 8 M according to the National Front in 2010 and… (drum roll) 15 to 20 M according to Jean-Marie Le Pen (you may know him, he’s the guy who once said that “gas chambers were a detail of history” and more recently shouted “Jeanne! Au secours!” in front of a Joan of Ark statue while his daughter was taking over his political party. In short, a pretty enjoyable comedian). I think the number of Muslims today is superior to 6 M, but inferior to 9 M, thought I have no way to prove it.

    Third, according to this 2004 study (http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/WPP2004/2004FrenchES.pdf), the birthrate among immigrant women (90% of immigrants in France are muslims) was of 2.15 and falling. I personally think that the birthrate per muslim woman is inferior to 2.5 and falling.

    Thus, while you’re right to warn people and while I agree with the historical elements of your post, I think the situation is nowhere as apocalyptic as you present it. It’s no a reason not to take the appropriate measures thought.

    I assume you found the numbers you mentioned in your post on an English speaking site, and you didn’t realize they were complete BS because you didn’t have access to french sources. And I think that, in your honorable efforts to warn the public of the nature of Islam, you fell into a trap Robert McNamara describes way better than I can:

    MCNAMARA: “We see incorrectly… or we see only half of the story at times…”
    REPORTER: “We see what we want to believe !”
    MCNAMARA: “We see what we want to believe, you’re absolutely right ! Belief and seeing… They’re both often wrong.”

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I didn’t see that part of Picard’s essay (much to do!) The rest looked important enough to reblog. But I agree with Tanguy!
      The fundamental reason Islam fundamentalists hate the French so much is that so many of the French had (part) Muslim ancestors, or are people who escaped Islamism by going to France (case of my parental family). Such people are the most fundamental enemies of Islamism. Thus, to count them as “Muslim” is not just silly, but self-defeating!

      • Tanguy Pluchet Says:

        July 1, 2017 • 10:28 pm
        J’ai des ascendances Pieds-Noirs, mais je crois que c’est le nationalisme algérien qu’ils fuyaient. On en est à regretter ce temps-là…

        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          July 2, 2017 • 10:54 pm
          Le nationalisme est tribal, le religionisme aussi… Algeria under the French was multi-national, multi-confessional. The left thought they were progressive by embracing “Algerian” nationalism and islamism, but they were just embracing regression, Mecca, Washington, and Moscow.

    • Picard578 Says:

      July 1, 2017 • 8:25 pm
      “You claim the average birth rate in France is 1,8, and 8,1 for muslims, that 45% of people of age 20 and younger are muslims in larger cities, and that muslims will be the majority of the population in 2055.
      I do know all these numbers are from a single french source, with not a single reference to back it up, and which was subsequently totally debunked all over the french-speaking internet.
      First, the average birthrate in France is just short of 2,1 children per women (according to the INSEE), thanks to extensive childcare that enables women to both work and have children.”

      You might have misunderstood the part, what I wrote is that native French have 1,8 birth rate, muslims have 8,1 and that brings total birthrate to 2,1.

      As for the rest, it is indeed interesting data. And yes, despite my nickname, I am not French and I don’t know French language either (in fact, my – very poor – knowledge of Latin is far superior to my knowledge of French). Thanks for the correction.

      • Tanguy Pluchet Says:

        July 1, 2017 • 10:25 pm
        I perfectly understood what you wrote. What I meant to say is that the average birth rate of muslim French is NOT 8.1, but certainly less than 2.5. In short, I thankfully will still be able to say “Je suis Français” for at least another century.

        Also, what I meant with the Gulf of Tonkin video is that today, with Internet, people can choose to live in their own bubble of reality (Including people like Sean “Largest Inauguration Crowd” Spicer). Truth is dangerously becoming an abstract concept, and fact-checking is all the more important.

        But enough of that. Again, great post overall !

        PS: Did you know your nickname is also the name of a large French frozen good firm ? 😉

    • EugenR Says:

      The more important question than how many Muslims are in Europe or France is what cultural influence they have and how they integrate into the European life. If gradually through the generations they would adopt the modern secular view of life, accepting liberty, fraternity, equality as their own values, it wouldn’t matter. But the opposite is the situation, they prefer despotism of the worst kind, as it happened to be seen by cruel despotic behavior of European Muslim youth recruits to ISIS. You may oppose that those are small minority, but i say it is only the top of the iceberg of most of the Muslim believers, who support the idea of Muslim Caliphate, what is in its essence is a creation of cruelest, most despotic Empire, where many infidels (non believers or most of the European population, mainly from the lefties) can be executed, unless becoming despotic Muslims themselves. And remember, by Muslim law, ones a Muslim ever a Muslim. Exit from this religion, only to the grave.

      • Patrice Ayme Says:

        Methinks it’s enough to outlaw the preaching:
        https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2017/06/19/another-day-another-islamist-attack-outlaw-the-preaching/
        Most second generation “Muslims” in France are pretty secular. The recent Islamophilia was ordered, financed and incited from the top in Washington, Arabia, and submissive watchdog intellectuals in charge of enforcing the plutocracy, to fill-up their belies with crumbs and importance!

      • Tanguy Pluchet Says:

        Tanguy Pluchet
        July 3, 2017 • 10:31 am
        Indeed, the only important matter is the survival of the ideals of this country. For that, however, we need increased integration policies (mandatory National Service would be a great idea IMHO). The fact that all (IIRC) terrorists who made attacks in France were second-generation French citizens clearly shows that. We need to empahize the fact that we are French above all else. Our intellectuals should also accept the true nature of the Qur’an and listen to people like Kamel Daoud. Right now, many of our intellectuals are calling him an “islamophobic muslim” (lol) and are promoting communautarianism despite what most muslims in France think. I think it is nearly a neo-colonial attitude (“We know better than you what is good for you”). The fact is, most French muslims consider themselves French and/or are willing to integrate. As for communautarianism… well, just look at Belgium and Britain.

        As for the rest of the world… I wish Arab nationalism could rise from its ashes. Anything can happen thought, just look at the Kurds (albeit they’re not Arabs). You would think a nationalist, socialist and radical-feminist people would not exist in this part of the world… but they just do.

        And inded, consider this: You are born a muslim. You are born a jew. But you become a christian.

        • EugenR Says:

          Yes, the Kurds are amazing surprise. They become the strongest country in the region after Turkey and Iran, inspite of all, just because they are not refusing modernity and western attitudes. Their fighting girls is the prove, that they mean seriously with women liberation. The suppression of women in other Muslim countries is devastating for their societies. After all the suppressed iliterate women are the mothers, who educate the next generation. What kind of education you can expect from them?

          • Patrice Ayme Says:

            Love the Kurd fighting women too. This shows, as I saw myself in Africa, that variants of Islam do not subjugate women (but then it’s not Quranic Islam! Not Caliph Uthman’s Islam!). However the Kurds themselves are divided. That’s probably the biggest obstacle to their independence.

  2. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Picard, Tanguy:
    I know many “Muslims” in France, or French living overseas who are “Muslim”. First they have less than two children per couple, average. Second, those “Muslims” aren’t really “Muslims”. They just plain don’t believe in Islam.

    Much of South-West France carries Berber and Arab alleles, thanks to the dreadful, hyper-violent invasions of the Eight Century. However, don’t tell those part descendants of Muslims that they are Muslim, they will think you are an insane moron!

    One of my ancestor was ennobled for fighting the Muslim invaders. However, i would not be surprised that he himself had some Muslim ancestors. That doesn’t make me a Muslim. Also it was in the Ninth Century!

    I think a Muslim is somebody who defines herself, or himself, or can be objectively defined through actively engaged behavior, mental or physical, as such. Same for Jews, Christians, Americans and Cannibals.

    Viewed that way, most people of Muslim ancestry in France are NOT “Muslim”.

    Only a minority among those has a high birth rate. The number “8.1” is fanciful, and may be relative only to a small subset of Imams who live off French social security (by having lots of children, as Orthodox Jews do in Israel…)

  3. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Picard, Tanguy:
    Patrice here! I agree with Tanguy, great post overall.

    Frankly I overlooked the French part in Picard’s essay on Islam, because the French DISINFORMATION campaign by the Anglo-Saxon plutocrats (and other plutocrats in tow) is so strong, that nearly everything French is enormously distorted, or the opposite of truth, worldwide, out of the francosphere (300+ million).

    Yes, israel has a Muslim demographic problem.
    Not France.

    Out of the 70+ million holders of French passports, certainly no more than 2 millions are practicing Muslims. And most are “good” Muslims, namely those “hypocrites” the Qur’an orders to kill!

    A third of the French population is hard core agnostic:
    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/why-this-site-shouldnt-interest-most-americans/

  4. Tanguy Pluchet Says:

    July 3, 2017 • 10:31 am
    Indeed, the only important matter is the survival of the ideals of this country. For that, however, we need increased integration policies (mandatory National Service would be a great idea IMHO). The fact that all (IIRC) terrorists who made attacks in France were second-generation French citizens clearly shows that. We need to empahize the fact that we are French above all else. Our intellectuals should also accept the true nature of the Qur’an and listen to people like Kamel Daoud. Right now, many of our intellectuals are calling him an “islamophobic muslim” (lol) and are promoting communautarianism despite what most muslims in France think. I think it is nearly a neo-colonial attitude (“We know better than you what is good for you”). The fact is, most French muslims consider themselves French and/or are willing to integrate. As for communautarianism… well, just look at Belgium and Britain.

    As for the rest of the world… I wish Arab nationalism could rise from its ashes. Anything can happen thought, just look at the Kurds (albeit they’re not Arabs). You would think a nationalist, socialist and radical-feminist people would not exist in this part of the world… but they just do.

    And inded, consider this: You are born a muslim. You are born a jew. But you become a christian.

    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Agreed to all.
      The so-called intellectuals are mostly at fault in claiming that one is racist if one does not love Islam. They are actually whores paid by the oil plutocracy and its helpers in finance.

      I don’t know Kamel Daoud…But most of what I know from France is filtered by the French government…

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