Philosophy Censorship; About Socrates The Basic Truth Shall Not Be Told, Pluto Enforced By “Aeon”, A Magazine Promoting Philosophical Fascism

Owners of the pseudo-philosophical magazine “Aeon” enforce a particularly strict vision of Socrates. Straying out of it “violates their community guidelines”. This is pure censorship in the domain of the most esoteric ideas (demonstrating those are crucial to the Pluto. order!)

The gist of my comment was that the trio of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle are pro-plutocratic philosophers, and that’s why their thoughts were so well preserved. This is intolerable to… plutocrats. And guess who is financing “Aeon”? Same as all over the world media: plutocrats!

For Aeon’s abuse, see the note. Here is my censored comment, with a picture added.

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Socrates should not be considered to be the founding figure of Western philosophy:

that Socrates is the greatest philosopher is a widely held opinion that is indeed deeply flawed, considering the gigantic heritage of thought and thus philosophy, which preceded the Athenian Age of Pericles.

General on the left, great philosopher, his spouse, on the right. Aspasia (right) invented the so-called “Socrates” method (“inductio”) and the Open Society, and all great things Pericles said. All the bad policies of Pericles were his own, he admitted, begging forgiveness.

Actually, let’s hammer it again, Pericles’ second wife, Aspasia of Miletus, was arguably a better thinker than Socrates: she invented the concept of the Open Society, which K. Popper parroted recently; the Open Society is more important a notion than anything Socrates allegedly did. 

Consider the many pharaohs who were women, and discoveries such as “Pythagoras” theorem, one of many discoveries which the Greeks themselves said came from Egypt (with steam power).  Truth was revered in Ancient Egypt, and the ideal feminine, when not actual women, propelled it.

Suspicion wants to ask why, among all great thinkers of Greece only the trio of Socrates Plato and Aristotle was viewed as worth preserving so extensively? Was it because their thinking was so compatible with, and useful to, the 2,000 years of dictatorship and plutocracy which followed them? And which Aristotle personally contributed so much to install? Indeed! It’s no coincidence that Roman Catholicism was made compatible with the “Neo-Platonism” which dominated the empire (and not reciprocally).

Contemplate the many colossal thinkers of Classical Greece, such as the inventors of NON Euclidean geometry (Yes, non-Euclidean), and the engineers of mechanical computers, algebra, and of the all important atomic theory, complete with vacuum and perpetual (“Brownian”) motion. Presocratic philosopher Democritus, his teacher Leucippus, and Epicurus, over two centuries, wrote more than 100 books, mostly on the atomic theory, science, and a rational approach to the entire universe. Why were all their work deliberately destroyed?

Because Roman Catholic fascism was not compatible with rational explanations.

Whereas, of course, Socrates, with his voices in his head, Joan of Arc style, Plato, in love with tyrants of Syracuse, and Aristotle being all things to the Macedonian gangsters, were compatible with Catholicism, to the point they promoted many of its themes, five centuries before Roman emperors adopted them, that is, adopted the intellectual fascism Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were oozing with.

Athenian democracy knew so much about its incompatibility with Socrates and Aristotle, it wanted to execute both (Aristotle fled).

Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were deeply entangled, in the most intimate ways, with some of the most famous and bloodiest dictators in history. It is telling that most philosophers have not noticed that horrendous, yet very loquacious, fact. So no wonder the dictators, tyrants and so-called monarchs of the next two millennia esteemed that philosophical trio from thinking hell, so much. But should we? Socrates hated real democracy, and Aristotle was, literally, the father of “Hellenistic” dictatorships which  buried free thinking and inspired Roman plutocracy to take over the Republic, and then the world.

Socrates had means, a stock inheritance from his father, which he admitted to have dilapidated, and a busy wife. In any case, he could afford the expensive equipment of a upper class hoplite, and he kept the most intimate company with Athens’ topmost golden youth. That made him tight with the dictators who ruled Athens, when they did.    

That Socrates was married early in his life with an aristocrat called Myrto explains readily why he was hanging around the uppermost echelon of Athenian society, insisted to attack democracy, and why the democratic authorities viewed him with such hostility. That Plato hid that from view is explained by Plato’s general adoration of dictators, and those who love them.

Diotima of Mantinea is presented in Plato’s Symposium as a philosopher of love, teacher of a youthful Socrates, who defer to her expertise, and she is the inventor of the concept of Platonic love.  

Thus one can see that some of the most prominent durable notions of the infernal Socrates-Plato-Aristotle trio were actually elaborated by women… So why all the reverence to the guys? Is that another case of delirious sexism?

Some British philosopher claimed that Western philosophy, the way he knew it, was just “footnotes to Plato”. Indeed: sitting in the middle of his glorious British empire, he only knew Western fascist philosophy of the plutocratic type.

To get out of this inequality trance, one needs to realize the truth: Socrates, Plato and Aristotle were just theoreticians and advocates of the exploitation of We The People by the principle of oligarchy. Socrates hated democracy, Plato lauded tyrants, and Aristotle put in place Antipater, the bloody tyrant, executor of Aristotle’s will, who made Athens, after defeating her twice in naval battles, into an official plutocracy.

No philosophical education should be complete without realizing that this infernal trio are fathers to plutocratic philosophy. And, in particular, Roman Catholicism.

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Conclusion (not part of my comment, which was above): Is Aeon is a magazine promoting philosophical fascism? You judge!

The sort of censorship I was subjected to reminds me of The Inquisition. Actually, it is exactly this sort of censorship which brought plutocratic rule, when the non-Roman Catholic literature was systematically destroyed by the “Men In Black” (monks).

This sort of censorship prevents people to realize that Socratic, Platonic, and Aristotelian philosophies have been the backbone of plutocracy, for 24 centuries… and that so-called Christianism (and thus then its child, Islamism).

Interesting too, the no-good Socrates stole women. And who are women except nobody? The Socratic method is Aspasia’s. Aspasia understood what made civilization strong, the Open Society, exactly what Socrates detested (in the guise of detesting Direct Democracy). Socrates (Plato admits) got his (“Platonic”) philosophy of love from another woman philosopher:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diotima_of_Mantinea    

This is another indication that sexism and plutocracy are deeply entangled. I am honored to be censored for this insight.

But this is a warning: the techno fascist who rule the world now are, in some ways worse than the Inquisition. Facebook censors for obscenity works of art ordered by popes during the Middle Ages. We have sunk low, and are sinking lower.

Patrice Ayme

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Note: Plato or Pluto? Is there a difference? My comment was using not one word of foul language, or slang, and couldn’t be considered abusive to anyone alive since the dictator Antipater became the executor of the will of Aristotle. My comment was polite, and highly informed at a much higher level than the author of the article (who I didn’t criticize, neither directly, nor implicitly; I actually went further in his general direction, bringing new elements).

Aeon send me this message:

Aeon Magazine

https://aeon.co

Dear Patrice Ayme,

Your comment to the article ‘Was the real Socrates more worldly and amorous than we knew?’ has been deleted because it contravened our community guidelines.

Users who repeatedly violate our community guidelines will have their membership deleted.

Unfortunately we cannot give individual feedback on moderation. Please consult our community guidelines.

Aeon calls itself a “world of ideas…Aeon is a magazine of ideas and culture. We publish in-depth essays, incisive articles…” The article I commented up was by a Oxford professor (who, let it be said in passing didn’t know much about Socrates; apparently he didn’t know how Socrates learned of the theory of love… although it’s extensively described in Plato…)

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UK philosopher Alfred North Whitehead, co-author of Principia Mathematica with B. Russell,  wrote in his Process and Reality (Free Press, 1979, p. 39): “The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato.

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21 Responses to “Philosophy Censorship; About Socrates The Basic Truth Shall Not Be Told, Pluto Enforced By “Aeon”, A Magazine Promoting Philosophical Fascism”

  1. benign Says:

    Censorship, accompanied by surveillance, plus negative reinforcement for “anti-social behavior,” is the new model for Plutocratic domination of the sheeple. Problem is, most people won’t even take the first step out of line, i.e., to think independently, because there are penalties even for that. The big corporations do not tolerate free thinkers very well.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Entirely true. There is incredible monitoring going on. I know an extremely talented rebel (she was the girl Barry looked up to). Now she is on the shit list, she fights back it’s going to go to SCOTUS apparently (if she does not die “accidentally” first).

      As most sheeple are low lives, they don’t know like any of this happened out of the silly books they read and Game of Thrones. But I have had many high level contacts (all the way to Barry), and I know (my dad met with several heads of state). A problem is that when sheeple sees power, sheeple becomes incredibly nasty and aggressive to ingratiate itself to more power… So suddenly your brother (in law) tells you to go visit a cliff above the sea, while secretly cavorting with the head of the free world…. (Allusion to something that really happened…) Or another informs you you are dangerously unpredictable…

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  2. brodix Says:

    Patrice,

    I would argue the whole premise runs much deeper than authoritarianism or sexism. As I’ve observed before, reality seems to be this dichotomy between energy and form. Galaxies are energy radiating out, while form/mass coalesces in. Our bodies have the digestive, respiratory and circulatory system processing the energy driving us on, while the central nervous system processes/distills the information used to navigate and judge. Given consciousness is like energy, always present and thus conserved, while the forms it manifests, thoughts, come and go, it would seem likely the reason we associate emotion and intuition with the heart and gut is because, they, more than the head, are the real source of the consciousness driving us on.
    Yet culture, even and especially math and science, are obsessed with the forms which can be extracted from the dynamic. To the extent of mathematical platonism, where it is assumed everything, even consciousness, can be reduced to information and mathematical forms.
    So this top down structuring dominates the bottom up dynamic actually manifesting life and reality.

    It does seem Aeon has cut out much of the comments section. Nautilus and Quanta let me get away with a lot. I seem to be banned from Naked Capitalism though. Yves called me a troll for questioning MMT, back in January and nothing’s gone through since.
    Given your talents and interest in the historical, here is an interesting link; https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2019/04/the-delphic-oracle-was-their-davos-a-four-part-interview-with-michael-hudson-about-his-forthcoming-book-the-collapse-of-antiquity-part-1.html

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Aristotle thought, and said (paraphrasing) that Plato’s theory of forms was hogwash. He prefered definitions (as the real Socrates apparently did… that was masked by Plato). Mathematics is, of course, a theory of Forms, as is that part of it known as “CATEGORY” theory… launched by Aristotle.

      BTW, I have studied math and physics at the highest level, for decades. Don’t understand everything well, that’s impossible, but I have a broader, although admittedly much shallower than any specialist, understanding of the entire math-physics universe…

      Thanks for the link, I will look…

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      • brodix Says:

        Patrice,

        Why do you think the map, aka math, is treated as foundational than the territory, the physical? It’s an abstraction! Abstraction means abstracted from!
        For example, three dimensions really are just the xyz coordinate system, which is a mapping device. Are longitude, latitude and altitude foundational to the biosphere of this planet, or simply a mapping device?
        Spacetime, as physical explanation for GR, is like crystalline spheres as a physical explanation for epicycles. Which was also very, very good math, for its time.
        I guess it really does go back to the Ancients and every generation just built on the previous. With the occasional course correction, but no real bottom to top review. As that would question the nature of authority.
        Order is control.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          For me, math is physics. Unknown physics, unfathomable subquantum physics. Yes with “forms”, topology, topos, whatever. Physical structures in the brain we can’t even imagine yet: what we call abstraction. An abstraction is any of these brain generated structures (BGS) attempting to mimic elements of functionality of another apparently observed structure (AOS).

          Comparing the sphere thing to “spacetime” is… Conic sections were actually known, 2,000 years ago. Ptolemy lied, Tycho thought, and he was probably right. Tycho and Kepler went for a curve, not silliness…
          I do believe science and math got set back by the Macedonian fascists…
          The Crystalline Spheres fantasy of Ptolemy and company is like the Multiverse or Brexit; a fashionable nonsense, obvious as a nonsense at the time…

          The rise of Roman intellectual fascism, in particular Roman Catholic fascism destroyed civilization, and we came very close to total eradication.

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          • brodix Says:

            It’s not that structure and form don’t exist, but they are one side of the coin. Structure is, pretty much by definition, static, while energy is dynamic. Trying to define energy in terms of the forms derived from it and you have either fuzziness, or statistics. Which is what QM seems to be. So when you presume that only what can be defined exists, then you have a reality that is all forms. Platonism.
            What if cosmology accepted that photons are simply the smallest unit of measurable light, not irreducible units?
            Then we would know we were sampling a wave front and it is redshifted because these are multi spectrum units and the higher spectrums dissipate faster then the lower ones, creating redshift as an optical effect.
            Otherwise we assume individual photons travel billions of light years and we only measure particular ones, coming from particular events, not a combined sample of the larger source.
            Because if it can’t be specifically measured and defined, it must not exist.
            Not to mention all the other patches and presumptions, from dark energy to multiverses.

            Interesting about NC. I just post and now get an in moderation reply, but it never goes through.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Forms?
          https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/William+Lawvere

          Topos:
          https://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/Leinster2010

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Interesting scholar this Michael Hudson. I agree with lots of the things he says. However his explanation of history as a debt engine is naive. Right, debt is very important, and is front and central in history. Debt is often abusive, cancelled, a motive for war.
      It’s not just the Middle East, Greece, Rome, and the usual Bible clutchers. The Republic of Florence rose on debt (which paid for the army).
      What is naive is to believe that debt primes war. Doesn’t.

      That’s why the US, or Japan doesn’t care about their debt. At worst, tax inside, default outside. What will the Chinese do? Cry? Too bad the EU doesn’t understand that: that show of rigor is there precisely to distract from the real gangsterism at hand…

      Couldn’t comment, because I am not subscribed… As a naked capitalist already, I won’t need to pay for my condition… .

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      • brodix Says:

        I don’t totally agree with his thesis, for the reason that all of society, top to bottom, views money as a commodity to mine from society, rather than the contract enabling markets to function. The asset side is backed by a debt. When the system mutates from the efficient transfer of value, to the creation of money as the end goal, given everyone wants infinite amounts of it, because it has become the class signifier, which is his point, necessarily lots of debt has to be created to back it.
        Though I found it tied together bits and pieces of other sources.
        The site isn’t behind a paywall, though they run fundraisers on occasion. Safe to say, they are not getting anymore out of me.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Money, debt, economy, even society, can get wiped out by war… And do get wiped out. Last time it seriously happened to Anglo-Saxons was 1066 CE, so their memory is a bit foggy. Last time it happened to France: 1914-1918, and 1939-1945… Arguably, 1962… Universal health care system countries got wiped out recently, or had close calls (like UK). Social, political disruption was great enough to rebuild healthcare… But not the USA…

          (To comment, one has to subscribe, apparently.)

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  3. benign Says:

    Yves (aka Susan Webber, Harvard MBA) is a bit fascistic nowadays (not to mention failing in the witticism department). I submitted a comment with a link to a paper showing that the reason the Fed is paying interest on excess reserves is because the banks can’t afford to take the crap back onto their balance sheets, and the only way the Fed has to raise interest rates is by sucking liquidity out of the system–which she rejected. I do give them $20 a year because along with ZH they are providing a great service that could easily be beaten down by Google et al. See https://osf.io/y7z4v/

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    • brodix Says:

      It was a bit weird. MMT runs counter to the very point Hudson made. That debt enslaves you to your creditors. Even for countries. As I’ve been pointing out for years, when the US can’t get anyone to accept its promises, aka money, those holding the old bonds will kindly exchange them for public resources. It’s called disaster capitalism, when done to countries and predatory lending, when done to people.
      Guess didn’t like my style. I’ve pitched a couple hundred their way, but the water’s running cold now.
      My conspiracy instinct suggests some promoting MMT are really trying to drive the country into bankruptcy that much quicker.
      It’s the trillion dollar military, that can’t beat natives with fifty year old AK-47’s, that needs the real reining in.

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      • Patrice Ayme Says:

        US has already gone part bankrupt a few times… Inflation is a way to do that discreetly. Point is, as long as you have biggest best army, no bankruptcy… Plutocracy is more of a threat; consider Rome, Florence… France (hence Europe) was rejuvenated by 1789 (and England partly by the Revolution ending in 1688)
        FDR did a part bankruptcy overnight, so did Nixon…

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        • brodix Says:

          Time will tell. It does seem the oligarchs end up with more each time.

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          • Patrice Ayme Says:

            So far the inequality machine is fully plugged in. Obama augmented it, with his tech monopolies, and his free flow of cash to most major banks. Trump now further it by letting run smaller capitalism (perversely it compensates for the vast error under Obama; for example Obama gutted the Patent System, to satisfy his tech moguls, he was coming taking orders form them, every two weeks. I friend of mine was just under the flight path of the helicopter armada…
            Result has been that small inventors have been dying… or then getting plenty of cash of friendly “investors” from the PRC… There again I was smack in the middle of it… inside the cash flow, I mean… Very dangerous: I warned my friends what they were doing was tantamount to high treason… Now Trump is in a quandary about all this… The PRC guys, when one scratches a bit, as good friends, have lots of admiration for the Chinese imperial system… while holding tenure in the US….

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I produce more, but I don’t charge, and that, per se, says something, but we aren’t supposed to know what it is… ;-)…

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  4. Gmax Says:

    The wealthy control our minds. This is how they contrive to make us pay for their private jets as you said in a post. So not really news that they control philosophy. Hey they control Brexit see how well that’s going.

    I remember you said Brexit will NOT happen

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  5. Gmax Says:

    BTW could you tell Benign about quarks and mass to bring a light to his structure energy jumble? Doesn’t energy couple with time? Not structure?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      No time now, just published another Brexit essay, on the propaganda. Point you allude to is that most mass is dynamically created (forget the Higgs!) So it messes up the distinction made by the other distinguished commenter…Thanks…

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  6. Anita Leirfall Says:

    Really? Unbelievable.

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