“1917”: HUMAN HEROES AGAINST TRIBAL KILLER ROBOTS… As It happened.


What was the fundamental truth of World War One? That civilization was assaulted by tribal barbarians who thought they were civilized.

Because plutocracy has make it so that it is fashionable to believe that the concept of civilization is not fundamental,  this lesson has been forgotten. Yet, the world was organized according to this lesson, if while the Second World War, a continuation of the First, was going on.

The movie “1917” relates a small piece of action in World War One [1]. It features telling contrast between the Democratic Allies and the fascist invaders. The Allies are human, humanistic, heroic, ethnically diverse. The Germans are pretty much depicted as the opposite. And so, indeed, it was. 

The story itself may be fiction, but actions similar to it, or even more dramatic, did happen continually during World War One. Some of these played a crucial role. French reconnaissance behind German lines before the Second Battle of the Marne come to mind: exquisite French intelligence helped to win that battle of July 1918, when Germany lost the war… according to its operational commander, Ludendorff. Ludendorff would go on to found the Nazi Party even before Adolf Hitler was assigned by the Bavarian police to spy on it. 

French intelligence based on aerial observation gave clear warning of the July 1918 onslaught,designed to occur before the US army’s might could be brought to bear.

The arrogant plume covered peacocks who launched World War First, so that they could preserve their position on top of the planet, exploiting everybody. So they deliberately launched a World War to make preserve their luxury and prerogative. The way they looked at it, if they did it serially, first France, then Russia, then Britain, it could work. (Dictator Kaiser Wilhelm II and his six sons…)

Heroes Can Turn Bad:

The main hero of French reconnaissances behind German lines was warrant officer Joseph Darnand. A reconnaissance patrol of the French Fourth Army, headed by  Darnand, deep behind German lines, in the evening of 14th July 1918, captured twenty-seven (27) German soldiers. Brought back and interrogated, the prisoners revealed the German attack plan for the next day, to the minute… so the French fired 40 minutes before the Germans attacked, disorganizing them, while evacuating the first lines, so the German artillery barrage, when it finally arrived, hit only empty positions. [2]

A dedicated fascist, but Germanophobe, Darnand would become head of the fascist, racist, anti-Jewish French Milice in World War Two. Being Germanophobe, whole fascist, in those times, was a mighty contradiction. Darnand tried three times to join the French resistance, but was rebuffed (because of his racist fascist leanings, trust didn’t flow). Then he turned to full collaboration (finishing with a rank in the SchutzStaffel, the SS!) Captured by the British in Italy, Darnand was brought back to France, sentenced to death on 3 October 1945 and executed by firing squad on 10 October 1945 at the Fort de Châtillon.

My grandfather found himself in a railroad engine, behind German lines at some point, and escaped capture or death by the Huns with a similar jaunt, for three days, through devastated landscape and the no-man’s land. He would be drafted again in WW2, and then joined the Resistance, early on, saving all sorts of fugitives and wanted (by the Nazis) “criminals” (although mostly Jews).

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Britain and France Were Ethnically, Thus Mentally Diverse Democracies in 1917:

The “1917” movie represents that some of the British troops were actually… not British, but Commonwealth. That’s entirely correct. Huge contingents of non-ethnically French or British fought in the french and British armies. And they played a crucial role to change mentalities. At the Second battle of the Marne, the french command, may be deliberately, engaged a Senegalese division along the two US, white, divisions. The Senegalese, being all black, hated the very racist Germans, and reciprocally. Neither side was in the habit of making prisoners, when dealing with each other. Inspired by their fierce Black African allies the US troops did just the same: they didn’t focus on making prisoners, either… 

The first trench raid appears to have been mounted on the night of 9/10 November 1914 near Ypres by the 39th Garhwal Rifles of the Indian Corps. Fierce irruptions into enemy positions under cover of darkness was a traditional feature of Indian frontier fighting and this first murderous little action may have represented an introduction of tribal military practice into the ‘civilised’ warfare of western armies.

There were so many Indians in the trenches that the British army was asked to supply 10,000 live goats a month to meet the ritual dietary requirements of Indian troops in France.

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WW1 Broken German robots resting in eternal peace with the flies among barbed wires, France, 1914… There was no excuse for Germans to take part in a war of aggression in 1914, especially because a few lunatic, despicable plutocrats gave them the order to make their utmost, to take over the world…

OK, as they say, spoilers ahead!

German WW1 Killer Robots obeying plutocrats were the main problem, but the USA made the situation worse, early on:

“1917” correctly represents German invaders as war robots, so proficient at killing, little humanity is left to them: they kill cows, cherry trees, all trees, terrify (French) civilians, and will keep on killing, even when facing certain death if they so persist. A rescued, burning German aviator, rescued at great peril, stabs (to death) his rescuer, and even when hit back by a bullet, is apparently keen for more. 

Politically Correct thinking, confronted to such scenes have long pretended that, to depict German invaders as the way they were was unfair, and a misrepresentation of reality. PC thinking insists that there were guns in August (as a famous history book title goes) and they fired, all by themselves, there just too many guns. Nobody’s fault. One should have killed the guns. But, in real life, it’s French guns, especially the 75mm field gun, which killed the war.

Indeed, it’s the PC view which is incorrect. It’s not the “Guns of August” which killed people, inasmuch as the savages who used guns in August to enact exactly the same feat tried again in 1939: win a succession of adversaries at such a fast pace, that they would be destroyed one after the other, and Kaiser Germany would rule the world. In 1914, the trick was to defeat the French Republic before Czarist Russia and Britain could intervene. It failed, because the French counterattack at the battle of the Marne, five weeks later, nearly destroyed the Kaiser’s war machine. 

Why the German leaders thought such a lunacy possible as making a world empire for them, had to do with stealth enticement, encouragement and support from the hyper racist US president Wilson. This, I allege, made the difference. The USA provided Germany, through the Netherlands, with enough goods, including military goods, to break the otherwise fatal Franco-British high seas blockade. 

Right, you will never read about this, USA as Deus Ex Machina, in official history textbooks as found in, say, Princeton University, where “Democrat” Wilson was president (before he became US president). Wilson was the most racist US president, even more so that the many US presidents who owned slaves. You will never read it, because it puts the entire history of the two “German” instigated world wars (1914-1945) under a completely different light, namely a tool of US plutocratic supremacy, a Deep State agenda…

WW1 German position of heavy artillery in France. Long range German guns hit Paris.

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THE MORAL CODE OF BIG BROTHER KANT ENFORCING ROBOTS VERSUS HUMANITY:

Belgium was more than overrun by the Germanic horde, it was deliberately terrorized to encourage submission. The German robots, under orders, razed Belgian villages and executed villagers—men, women, and children, eventually numbering into the thousands—en masse. Priests, and Nuns, as authority figures and potential symbols of moral resistance, were chosen targets. Outrage was deliberate, as when general Ludendorff, basically founder of the Nazi party, ordered the burning and looting of the famous university town of Leuven/Louvain. Over the course of five days, beginning on 25 August 1914, the Germans pillaged the city. Using petrol and incendiary pastilles. 230,000 volumes were lost in the destruction, including Gothic and Renaissance manuscripts, a collection of 750 medieval manuscripts, and more than 1,000 incunabula (books printed before 1501).

NECESSITY KNOWS NO LAW

The Germans, in their insanity, their Terror Derangement Syndrome, believed they were fighting a war for civilization—for German Kultur against Latin decadence and Slavic barbarism. The highly educated German general staff, having read all the same books and drunk the same wines, had adopted social Darwinist ideas and applied them to the conduct of society (‘plutocracy”) and war (as rule of Evil)

An example: General Friedrich von Bernhardi’s book Germany and the Next War (published in 1911) called war “a biological necessity” in the struggle for existence. He added that war “is not merely a necessary element in the life of nations, but an indispensable factor of culture, in which a true civilized nation finds the highest expression of strength and vitality.

Basically, the entire Kaiser army which invaded France, Belgium and Luxembourg on August 2 1914 (starting without even a war declaration), was an army of war criminals… and acted accordingly. Right, this is a philosophical point of view: yours truly against Immanuel Kant’s grotesque morality.

WW 1 German Troops advancing in Ham, France, 1914. They all read Kant, or took orders from officers who read Kant. What literacy can lead to.

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HUMAN MORALITY WAS EVOLUTIONARILY CREATED:

I found my morality upon basic humanity, our creator, the crown of evolution. Kant found his morality “a priori”. Namely according to what is providing him with everything, the murderously racist Prussian State. Kant concludes that “Duty is the necessity to act out of reverence for the law”. When the law is made by the Kaiser, a crippled mass, war criminal, and certified criminal against humanity (per his racially motivated genocide in Namibia), duty, according to Kant, is then to violate all of humanity. This was exactly SS mass murderer and criminal against humanity Eichman’s line of defense in Jerusalem (the judges, rightly, condemned him to hang… and so should all the followers of that reasoning who practice murder).   

Only in August 1914, we have the very well documented proof of hundreds of crimes against humanity committed by the Kaiser’s invading hordes, down to mass murdering nuns, or killing two (2) year old girls. The invasion itself was a crime against humanity, and, just on that ground alone, the Kaiser and his main accomplices should have been judged and executed. 

That’s why, when supposedly educated individuals come around, and attribute Auschwitz only to Hitler and his gang of maniacal murderers, they are misinformed: what would come to be called “Nazism” was already fully grown by 1914. Yes, most of Germany became criminal by following the Kaiser. That’s why, just 15 years after goose stepping behind the Kaiser, the german nation was goose stepping behind Adolf Hitler. That’s why Germany, under the Nazis operated no less than an unbelievable 42,000 death camps (or ghettoes meant, and organized to kill people through disease, starvation, physical abuse). My own family barely escaped a round-up, before being outright being hunted by the Gestapo in the forests around Grenoble (for having saved 100+ Jews, among other “crimes against Germany”).

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The Kaiser and his class were “PARASITES”, plutocrats making a country criminally insane Fundamentally, the movies “1917” and “Parasite” both depict what the Dark Side of Humanity leads to:

“1917” represents male Germans invading France as they were: killing robots. Is it why the movies didn’t get “Best Pictures” at the “Oscars”? Instead the prizes went to “Parasite”, a dismal Korean horror tale. Whereas “1917” is about what happened (reconstituted in a movie), “Parasite” is a complete fiction. Both movies, though, fundamentally address the same subject: beware because humans, even though they may look civilized, will partake in the greatest crimes, if given the opportunity. 

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The roots of German Criminal Insanity in 1914-1945 were very deep, centuries deep. Much German culture and history came in play:

The mass criminality against humanity of Germany in 1853-1945 had very deep roots. Maybe as deep as Arminius, a German who had become an Roman officer, and then brought three Roman legions to their annihilation. Arminius was a traitor… still he came to be celebrated as a great German hero by Prussian nationalists. Celebrating treachery as heroism is a slippery slope. In the end, Arminius (“Hermann”!) was assassinated as other Germans suspected he wanted to become sole autocrat.

In any case case, the deadly cocktail of racism, extreme tribalism, intolerance, extermination and nationalism started with the crusade of the Teutonic Knights against the original, Pagan Prussians. It had dawned on the Knights that the Muslims were too hard to exterminate (especially after Saladin passed laws to punish Islam Fundamentalism with the death peanalty). So they went to invade Prussia instead. It was a long and hard war of extermination. It lasted decades. Next the Teutonic Knights turned against the Russians… and were crushed by Alexander Nevski during the Battle of the Ice on 5 April 1242… Hence a durable German ressentiment against “Slavs”. 

WW1 German soldiers having fun with Polish girls, WW1. Saying no would not be polite

Prussia, became legally racist against Slavs, Poles and Jews in the Eighteenth Century, Financed by Britain, Prussian then became a war machine against the Austrian empress, and France. Ultimately, by 1815, that turned out immensely successful, and racist militaristic Prussia was able to extend its racist militaristic Zeitgeist all over its empire in Central Europe. That’s when the young Marx, a German Jew, learned to hate, while at the same time, imprisoned by the Prussian mentality that dictatorship was the way to efficient governance. 

To prevent Nazism, one would have had to invade Germany in 1918, take control of it, arrest the top 1,000 war criminals, and hang them. In other words, do to Germany in 1918 what was done in 1945: a thorough cleaning and cleansing. Hanging a thousand war criminals would have prevented the Nazi Party to sprout: many leading Nazis were actually young (or not!) commanders in World War One. Of the young ones, an example if Hermann Goering. Of the old ones, the initil sould of the Nazi Party, Ludendorff, definitively a criminal against humanity… With lots of guts. The German army opened fire on the Nazis who were attempting to stage a putsch in Munich in 1923 (financed by hyper racist, anti-Jewish  US plutocrat Henry Ford, a US car maker). Many Nazis fell dead, Hitler was wounded, and fled. Only one man was left standing, and kept on marching towards the firing troops: Ludendorff (recognizing their famed commander, they finally stopped).

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1917 REAL, HUMAN HEROES VERSUS KILLER ROBOTS:

“1917” depicts British and Commonwealth heroes, with a French heroic background, fighting a monstrous fascist war fighting machine devouring humans and humanity alike, in the name of a perverse notion of morality as obedience. 

The English heroes depicted are thoroughly human: they are attached to life, to their own lives, dearly, but transcend them in the name of the highest values. The fascist German invaders, however devoted to killing they are, do not rise to the same level of heroism, precisely because they are Kant killer robots dying in the name of the Kaiser World Empire project (same as, a few years later, the Nazi World Empire project: it is easy to see where Adolf Hitler and his goons got the inspiration).

This is of course why democracies win wars. And why at Thermopylae an army of a few thousand Greeks (including 300 Spartans headed by the Lion-like Leonidas) blocked, for days, the Persian juggernaut of three millions (says Herodotus; some modern historians, to show they were smart, have contested Herodotus number by an order of magnitude; truth is probably in between…).

The defeat of the Achaemenids in Greece preserved democracy… which lived strongly to the West, in Greek cities of independent republics along the Greek model, say in Magna Grecia, Rome and Marseilles.

The fascist plutocratic temptation is always strong, because a fascist dictatorship mustering evil to the rescue is always better at sudden vicious attack shattering the peace: August 1, 1914 is the best proof of that, when Kaiser Germany attacked the world, but imperial Japan proved that when it attacked China, especially in 1937, etc. But such demonstrations are found throughout history, as on December 31, 406 CE, when several German tribes galloped across the frozen Rhine, surprising the Frankish(-Roman) army. 

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WW1 A convoy of German prisoners escorted by French Algerian Spahis, of which there were 14 regiments in the French Army.

french army Spahi regiments had 1,000 men. The First Moroccan Spahi Regiment 75% Moroccan, 25% European, was the most decorated unit in the entire French army. This was not bad colonization, but good globalization, ladies and gentlemen… Multi-ethnicity won first on the battlefield.

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When Evil Mentality Rules When The Herd Is More Valued Than The Rest:

Some will think I am going overboard, telling too many truths above, my usual sin, and the one philosophers are always charged with. And this is why “1917” didn’t win the Oscars: too many truths. 

But we have a problem. The “Axis”, Germany, Japan, Italy demonstrated that, using modern technology, then the radio, one could make the herd believe anything, as long as the herd believed the essence of morality was to be a herd. 

It is completely obvious that the German attack on the world in 1914, same as in 1939, was caused by the evil mentality which animated Germany at the time. Instead, a persistent myth has been successfully implanted that the first World War was purely mechanical, no one was to blame. This is hogwash: it was all caused by the Evil-Rule in Germany (Pluto-Kratia) [3]. 

The excursion of Germany into a mentality, fascism, completely opposed to the old German mentality, freedom, as in the Franks, is a precious (the price was high!) story, rich in wisdom. One has to learn from it. The Germans thought they were hyper civilized, when they were mostly just the opposite. So one would expect the youth to learn from that tragedy, right?

OK, Israel learned the lesson well: one should have listened to Hitler more carefully (this is an inner slight directed at Isaac Berlin, a British Jewish philosopher who had learned nothing from Nazism). But what about the rest of the world?

An obvious case of herd phenomenon is Islam, and the apartheid it calls its home. Fundamentally Islam distinguishes the “House of Peace” (where Islam is) and the “House of War”. A distinction which French president Macron just called “Islamist Separatism“… a good concept. Islamism, as Catholicism before it, rests upon the herd instinct: who is in, who is out. hence the importance of “excommunication” or “apostasy” (both initially Catholic obsessions, three centuries before Islam was invented.

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Lack of Awareness:

In 2017 a Körber Foundation survey found that 40 percent of 14-year-olds in Germany did not know what Auschwitz was. What in the hell? A 2018 survey organized in the United States by the Claims Conference, United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, and others found that 66% of the American millennials (and 41% of all U.S. adults) surveyed did not know what Auschwitz was. No wonder I have so few followers when many 20 year old credit card fraudsters can get 400,000 followers (there were several such cases; now in prison). OK, the fraudsters propose money, whereas I propose knowledge non conducive to money, just to save civilization. In 2019, a survey of 1,100 Canadians found that 49 percent could not name any of the Nazi camps in German-occupied Europe. There were 3,000 camps in Berlin alone. Twenty million innocent people, millions of them children, died in Nazi camps.

Nowadays fools such as all too many so-called “millenials” feel that, as long as it is Politically Correct to not know any history, to show one belongs to the herd, the head deep in the sand, they and their values are safe. Well, not so. The German orchestrated holocaust of 1914-1945 was plotted, and enabled by people who thought they knew, and had a good feeling, for all that was important.

And they were wrong. To start with, a herd can’t replace a heart.

World War One was a plutocratic phenomenon. Plutocrat Duke of Brunswick, Kaiser son in law, former Duke of Cumberland, behind German lines in occupied France. The Kaiser was the grandson of UK Queen Victoria, and cousin to the Czar. Kaiser, empowered by Wilson, also enabled Lenin and Stalin…

This 1914-1945 German lesson in abomination has extreme validity nowadays. In the USA, a presidential election is in the process of being bought as never before [4]. In China, a pandemic was allowed to proceed, thanks to the extreme secrecy, thus information impotence, of the population. In either case, mechanisms similar to Nazi Germany are at play. Europe is not doing much better, as plutocrats are all the more firmly in command there, because they have learned to operate stealthily.

Ignorance was the main engine of the world wars: it enabled very dark forces to operate from beneath without everybody knowing. And that goes on to this day: the troubling role of the USA in 1914-1917, and again, in 1933-1942 was not properly analyzed by historians… because it’s way too dangerous. (I do not have a career to lose, being an independent scholar…)

World War One “Crown Prince”, the eldest son of the Kaiser, and would be dictator of Germany, commander of the largest army groups with death cap on his hat. The analogy with Nazism is total: the famous SS-Totenkopfverbände (SS-TV; literally “Death’s Head Units”) was the SS organization responsible for administering the Nazi extermination camps for Nazi Germany, among similar duties. The SS TV used the same symbol, the exact same drawing, a few years later.

The essence of plutocracy is that it feels, and knows, and wishes, and enforces that hell can be construed as paradise. This goes to the core of the human condition. Hell as paradise goes to the core of the human condition. Carefully studying 1914-1945 shows this. It got so severe because of technology… which has considerably in power since.

The world doesn’t want to be ruled by Lords. Because human beings are not meant to be ruled by anything else than reason. Only war justifies otherwise. Thus Lords love war, another reason not to like them!

Patrice Ayme

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[1] To remind readers unfamiliar with my version of the most significant facts of World War One, the Kaisers and six other plotters had decided upon preparing public opinion through media action for war as early as eleven December 1912. By July 1914, under the pretext of Russia stiffening Serbia about unacceptable Austrian demands consecutively to the Sarajevo assassination of the Archiduke, Germany executed its detailed plan for war. The other powers had only defensive, belated reactions. The French leaders, in particular, were in vacation (surprise). The German plan was named after the army chief of staff who drafted it, Alfred von Schlieffen. It solved the problem of Germany’s two-front war against France in the west and Russia in the east. The solution was to invade France from the north (through Brussels and Belgium, bringing it into the war as well), sweep around Paris, and turn east to crush the French army in the rear where it would be deployed on the German border. The idea was to go fast enough that Britain could not intervene in a significant manner to help its ally and relative, France. This would take the Germans, Schlieffen calculated, 42 days. This was less time than Russia needed to mobilize, and after finishing off France, Germany would then invade Russia. 

Unfortunately for the fascists, fortunately for civilization, desperate Belgian and French resistance slowed them down (the counterattacking French lost 27,000 soldiers Killed In Action, in one day, on August 22, 1914, alone; 10% of the French officer corps was killed in action in August 1914 alone;  after staggering losses, the French army would change its striking red white and blue colors to something as drab as the Germans). 

Slowed down, confident that the French had lost all their heavy weapons, the Germans shortened their swing from west to east of Paris. Meanwhile the Russians attacked faster than anticipated, necessitating transfer of eight German divisions to East Prussia (which arrived after a tremendous German victory at Tannenberg). Plus the British Expeditionary Force, equivalent of one French Army Corps, was in the war. Finally, using all motor vehicles they could find, the French Paris garrison was flung into the side of the German army juggernaut… At the First Battle of the Marne, from 5 September to 12 September, 1914, two million men fought; only fast action by some German army corps commanders preserve the German army from annihilation.

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[2] Guderian, chief, soul and early organizer of Nazi armor, said he learned the usage of tanks in coordination with planes, when French general Mangin (10th French Army) and general Degoutte (6th French Army) counterattacked on July 1918 (using Allied troops besides 44 French divisions… US troops were massively used, for the first time, two US divisions were courageously victorious… and annihilated). Ironically enough, World War One was a learning experience for the Nazis.

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[3] Conventional description of why the First World War was fought, instead of accusing the racist, fascist, militaristic, dictatorial, expansionist, plutocratic “Second Reich” insist on something mechanical, a clockwork shared by all, from various unstoppable mobilizations. For example, French mobilization, with three million men and 4,278 trains on the move, couldn’t be stopped. That forgets that said mobilization was ordered by the under Secretary for Agriculture, the only government official in vacationing Paris, when it became certain that the Germans were going to attack.

This forgets that German mobilization was fast, a few days, whereas Russian mobilization would take weeks. It also forgets that Britain had, basically “no army” (as its chief, Lord Kirtchner declared at the time, after he was nominated). It also forgets that Germany supposedly attacked to help Austro-Hungary which obstinately refused to declare war, days after the Germans had invaded Belgium and France, in spite of Berlin’s pressure…

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[4] The establishment always feared Sanders much more than Trump… All the more as much Trump hatred was just an orchestrated circus act. So is now doing whatever needs to be done to stop Sanders.  Fortunately for plutocracy, Bloomberg is riding to the rescue with many billions, buying all that can be bought, including hearts and souls. Voters believe whatever the plutocratic media is telling them to believe… And not just in the USA. France, Britain and their ilk have the same problem. Direct Democracy would help, as voters would have to learn to become more discriminative… By themselves, the exact behavior Germans were incapable of, in depth, a century ago. 

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10 Responses to ““1917”: HUMAN HEROES AGAINST TRIBAL KILLER ROBOTS… As It happened.”

  1. Don Kemerling Says:

    The world doesn’t want to be ruled.

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  2. Don Kemerling Says:

    American politics really sucks, but people tend to get the government they deserve.
    If the citizenry weren’t so susceptible to propaganda a billion dollars worth of media wouldn’t make a nickel’s worth of difference. Thinking critically is the best defense, but come time for the election we’re often still at the mercy of all the suckers who have fallen for lies. It would be nice to have a choice of none of the above.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I suck, therefore I am, said the baby, chuckling away…
      Representative democracy has to be complemented by other forms of democracy… Like Direct Democracy…

      https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2019/10/06/athens-checking-balancing-debating-in-real-democracy-learn-from-25-centuries-ago/

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      • ronaldscheckelhoff Says:

        You must be a student of history, as well as mathematician/physicists? I think you’re like me, in that you read a lot of this stuff. I have a trove of books that were written right after WWII (like 1949,1954,1955, etc) – when all of the details revealed by allied forces as they swept across Germany were still very crisp in the minds of people in general, as well as authors.

        Humans are easily robotitized with social indoctrination and propaganda. I think the Germans were very good at it. They used drugs like meth in addition, to supplement.

        Quantum physics has the potential to do the same sort of thing, but with much stronger results. That’s just an opinion I have, and one I’ve explored through my science-fiction writings. I simply take what is known about QM, and extrapolate from it, and then maybe add a little extra imagination. (my blog is at quantumextinction on WordPress).

        The possibilities are scary indeed.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Hi Ronald: I will answer this in a separate comment, to make it clearer, avoiding too much nesting of comments.
          I have bought more than a thousand history books in my life… And read a few more thousands… At this point I view myself as a full blown historian, a PSYCHOHISTORIAN (a whiff of Isaac Asimov here…)

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    • Kevin Berger Says:

      Problem is, people do not vote for what they believe, but for who they are (doubly so in “ethnic” democracies, where people vote accordingly to ethnic blocs), which is IIRC/IIUC a basic tenet of political marketing (and prolly marketing as a whole, given the principle of the exercise). It’s a bit like the “when people show you who they are, believe them” trope, citizenry isn’t tricked or lied to or voting against its supposed self-interests, and “deserving” its woes through whatever flaw of character or somesuch… it just votes according to its “core”, and isn’t a “victim”, a “sucker”, just people getting what they really want, from leaders & elites they produce. Not a bug, but a feature.

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  3. Patrice Ayme Says:

    @ ronaldscheckelhoff: As a full blown historian, a PSYCHOHISTORIAN (a whiff of Isaac Asimov here…) I ponder the subconscious in the collective, as my next essay, on remorse, will show.
    The collective enlightens how subconscious works… In the individual, I reckon…

    What makes me a historian is the reinterpretation of history, in light of so-far little weighted facts, requiring more refined analysis of the CAUSALITY THEY IMPLY.

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  4. Kevin Berger Says:

    American politics = Americans.

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    • Don Kemerling Says:

      @ Kevin Berger: American politics is distinguishable from Americans. For one thing, only about 50-60% of people vote, and that’s in the November elections. It’s much smaller in the primary and local, municipal and school elections.
      There is a large variety of approaches to how people vote, but TV seems to have the greatest influence. Yard signs were always a amusing feature of campaigns. Name recognition seems to be the maximum effect of the yard signs; not much information there.
      Self-interest may or may not be a primary concern. Some people do think of the nation as a whole, and assume they can take care of themselves financially. They might be obsessed with taxes, and short the school systems, and pay a price down the road. There are a lot of different considerations at work. Minorities may or may not vote as a block. I think they are doing so less often lately, because they recognize some of “their” leaders as race hustlers, and the good of the country as a higher interest.
      I don’t know what your acronyms mean.

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