Have we avoided Munich? Not So Fast! At Munich, In The End, A Dictator Invaded A Democracy, And Paid Little Price


Many self-satisfied appeasers go around, gloat and congratulate themselves about their wisdom and knowledge of history: this time we avoided Munich, and they chuckle… while only one road leads to Kyiv which is not under Russian bombardment.

At Munich, the two large democracies, France and the UK, dumped Czechoslovakia, a newly liberated nation, reborn at Versailles in 1919… And a democracy. Hitler wanted a piece of it, the border, where the fortifications were. It was called the Sudetenland, a mountainous area, a natural borderland, and three million German speaking people lived there. Hitler got the Sudeten, courtesy of France and Britain, and then, having peacefully occupied the defense system of Czechoslovakia, marched peacefully in the rest of the country, occupying it militarily, after harassing all night long the elderly Czech president.

Prior to Munich, Czechoslovakia had a defense treaty with the French Republic (not with Britain).

If France in 1938 had refused to talk to Hitler, would have Hitler done like Putin, and invaded?  Was Hitler that crazy?

Ukraine did have a treaty protecting her, after giving up on 5,000 nuclear warheads, the  Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, signed December 5, 1994. It is clear, here are the crucial articles:

  1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
  2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the Final Act of the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
  3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon State party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

That Treaty has been violated.

In 1938, the question was whether France would go to war against Germany, Italy, Ussr and Japan to honor her treaty… without the UK or US on board.

In 1939, a similar treaty with Poland was honored, and france went to war… This time with the nod from Britain… But not the USA, which slapped sanctions against its parents, France and Britain….

So have we repeated Munich? 

France says it has given quality and quantity of weapons to Ukraine… But France refuses to say what, in part to surprise the Russians… France is the only country with as diversified a military arsenal as the US, or Russia…

France also adds that telling to the Russians in Syria which weapons France and the US fielded had been itself weaponized by Russia. 

Have we avoided Munich? Not So Fast! At Munich A Dictator Conquered A Democracy.

Hitler won, because he lied and conquered a democracy, Czechoslovakia

If Putin conquers Ukraine, a democracy, he will have won, and we will have repeated Munich.

Putin has already won several Munichs. Western appeasers did their best not to notice. Obama, a weak weasel, folded as usual, when French pilots were already strapped in their seats to punish the genocidal tyrant Assad, ally of Putin… After Obama’s surrender, Putin moved into Syria in force. Putin amused himself in Syria, reducing entire cities into fields of ruins, including Alepo. It was good training for his professional army:

Syrian province of Idlib

Now Putin is bringing Syrian killers specialized in urban fighting, to deal with the Ukrainians…

Patrice Ayme

12 Responses to “Have we avoided Munich? Not So Fast! At Munich, In The End, A Dictator Invaded A Democracy, And Paid Little Price”

  1. Kathleen Hawes Watkins Says:

    Putin’s unpredictability + nuclear threat = A very trying lesson in Complexity Theory. Managing nonlinear ambiguity posed in information theory or cosmic evolution has worked well – but applying such a theory to the threat posed by Putin – risking global consequences which we may not survive – will ultimately revert to cost/benefit analysis. With such catastrophic cost, Putin gambles little to remain standing while the moral flame burns dimmer. It ultimately will come down your old dictum “Sustainability is at the heart of morality”. So much depends on how we handle this waiting game to sustain/strengthen our resolve and financially weaken his ability to destroy. It is indeed a precipitous standoff – a contest of potential vs. kinetic energy. Can we embrace an enduring mood – a higher frequency of energy – which sustains moral/potential energy that exceeds destructive/kinetic energy?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Thanks Kathleen for this analysis.
      Putin’s morality is that Russia is a superpower that needs to regain not just lost territory, but co-leadership of the planet… and he is influenced by shamans, etc… We are talking deep down obscure here. For Putin, nuclear war conducted by him is the moral flame burning brighter.
      We have no time.
      This is Munich in slow motion, after talking back to the dictators Xi and Putin, a bit, more than what was adressed to Hitler and Mussolini at Munich, but not too much, so they won’t get too irritated.

      Not to have sent anti-aircraft and anti-ballistic missile systems, which the US have and France has is a strategic and moral failure. The worst is the “strategic” part. We want to know that our weapon systems work… On May 10, 1940, the French army discovered that its weapon systems and tactics were insufficient. It was easy to correct, it turned out… But by the time understanding was achieved the main French armies were cut-off.

      Zelenskyy is in his office, in a particular ornate building. Either he is suicidal, or France/US installed some anti-missile system…

      Thanks also for remembering my idea that morality is sustainablity…

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  2. Don Kemerling Says:

    They should have held a referendum in Sudetenland, like the Minsk agreement called for in Donetsk and Luhansk. Britain had no right to give it away, or keep the region in Czechoslovakia. That might have done much to avoid WWII.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      You are so naive, it really hurts.
      Hitler wanted WWII (but in 1945, not 1939). Even Salvador Dali pointed that out. And not just that, but Dali added that Hitler wanted to lose. Same with Putin.

      Actually Hitler was ready to bet the house, risk it all, because he hated so much, like Putin, that he was not afraid to lose. However, he was caught flat footed when France went to war, even if it meant France fighting Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and Hirohito… Simultaneously. Going to war against France and its british bulldog guaranteed defeat for the Nazis. However they got lucky in May 1940, with the help of several traitors. The only way to avoid WWII was to kill Hitler, just as the only way to avoid WWIII is to kill Putin.

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  3. Don Kemerling Says:

    Patrice Ayme: Must be nice to read the mind of Putin and Hitler in one sitting.
    Without the cover of the world war, Hitler would have had difficulty executing the “final solution.” The genius of the Jews might have overthrown him. I don’t know anything about counterfactuals, and neither do you.

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  4. Don Kemerling Says:

    Patrice Ayme: I only wanted you to see a consensus that “the final solution” was planned after WWII was going full scale. You can call it propaganda, but duckduckgo gives similar results from numerous links.
    Have you ever stopped to wonder why even a search engine would block you?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Solution

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      That search engine is under control of a criminal plutocrat accomplice of genocidal Xi. I am not wondering, I had direct contact with Gates who also paid The Guardian to block all my comments (I know someobody on the board) and call me a Jihadist…. ;-)… What you claim to be a consensus about ‘the final solution” is just pure Nazi propaganda launched by the Nazis themselves. And factually chronologically false, and that’s public record.

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  5. Chris Snuggs Says:

    Call Putin’s bluff. His Generals would never let him order the use of weapons. This has to stop.. “Atrocity’ as maternity hospital in Mariupol destroyed in Russian air strikes
    Women, children and doctors trapped under the rubble following direct hit by Kremlin forces in besieged Ukrainian city.”

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      This is also what I think. Call Putin’s bluff, that would disorganize him. Instead, by letting him in command of time and subjects, they leave him time to say, prepare a chemical or biological, or even directly nuclear, false flag operation.

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