Western Civilization Is Not Christian

Needed Guidance For Naïve, Deluded Christians:

Let me emphasize at the outset that there is everything good in embracing the good aspects of Christianity, as those fit human ethology at its best. Ethics, indeed, is absolute.

Christianism is, of course, much more than ethics at its best. It is also the superstition tyrannical Roman emperors running out of ideas, but not of Satanism, imposed on the Greco-Roman Empire.

The creator of Christianism was Emperor Constantine. He killed many, including most of those closest to him: his wife (steamed), his famous and talented son, and his nephew.

Thirteenth Apostle, Emperor Constantine: Homicidal Tyrant, Founder, Christian State Religion

Thirteenth Apostle, Emperor Constantine: Homicidal Tyrant, Founder, Christian State Religion

Christianism, hopefully, is a spent force. Yet it retains some vitality, as it rests on some myths, which are outright lies. It’s important to demolish them, be it only as an example to Islamism.

Among those lies was that the Roman Empire hated Christians and killed millions of them. The truth is the exact opposite: imperial Christians killed millions.

Another myth is Jesus himself. Still another myth is that France was a very Catholic country with a special relationship to the Church (France was said to be the “eldest daughter of the [Catholic] Church“).

The importance of the latter myth is that the Franks, Francia, created Western Civilization, by “renovating”, as they put it themselves, the Roman Empire.

By claiming that Francia was infeodated to the Catholic Church, the Christians were able to claim that we, who owe everything to Western Civilization, owe something to the “Lord” (allegedly their nowhere man, Christ, but actually any plutocrat above, who wanted to be called “Lord”).

Thus arose the myth that Western Civilization was, somehow, “Christian Civilization”.

Yet, a quick study of Charlemagne’s life shows that he certainly believed in study and philosophy (some of his closest advisers were the top philosophers of the time, for example Prime Minister Alcuin). Charles also believed Christianism was a very efficient military weapon. And that having ten wives was better than having just one. And that to be called “David” as if he were the king of the Jews was a good approach to life (for those in the know, God, aka Jesus’ dad, tortured to death David’s son… to punish David… that’s the Christian way…)

So let’s now dispel those myths with a bit more description of what happened:

The Roman Empire was pretty well organized: we know that exactly 6 people got executed under Marcus Aurelius for charges related to Christianity. The most famous case was that of a high officer and author who rejected his military oath. He was made into a Saint, of course.

There is no direct evidence for a Mr. Jesus Christ having ever lived. Three Christ-like Bible inspired crazies, with fates broadly similar to the fate of the alleged Jesus got duly condemned, and executed, during that century when Jesus was supposed to live. We have detailed proofs of their existences. The contrast is striking between the evidence in these historical cases and the total lack of direct historical evidence for Jesus.

It is enlightening to read that Saint Paul, the first human to evoke Mr. Jesus Christ, admits that he never met Jesus in the flesh… but in his head.

Only fools could not suspect something fishy: is not Saint Paul admitting he made up Jesus in his head? (Saint Paul, a Roman prosecutor condemned to death by the Jews, was spirited away by Roman authorities; nobody knows what happened to him, as Roman officialdom was anxious not to spite the Jewish authorities too blatantly).

There were only around 3,000 Christians executed under Emperors Diocletian and Galerius (it all started with too many very high officials and at Court, making the sign of the cross!).

With those Christians executed for which ever reasons over more than 250 years, maybe we have been double that number of Christians executed. But there were never millions of Christians executed. It was actually legal to be a Christian (with freedom of cult but for a very few years, when Christians, and especially priests, were required to take an oath to the state… Not differently than what would happened during the French Revolution, 15 centuries later).

Yet, because of their secretive, paramilitary ways, and dislike of Jews (extremely numerous in the Empire), Christians often got in trouble.

Galerius, maybe delirious from cancer, called off the Diocletianic Persecution when he issued an edict of toleration in 311.

The Roman emperor Constantine, the self-declared “13th Apostle” (and, of course, a Saint, like the famous sadist Saint Louis) selected and invented Catholicism (Constantine called and presided the First Council of Nicaea in 325 CE). Constantine imposed Christianism fiscally on the empire. Emperor Theodosius, a Spanish general, imposed it with lethal force (so the Christians killed millions, and this is why they pretend it was the other way around)…

So Christianism aka “Orthodox Catholicism”, as it was known, became the Roman State religion. Only the Jews got tolerated enough to not be massacred outright.

Thus, far from being eaten by lions in the millions, imperial Christians devoured civilization for more than three centuries as deranged tyrants. All the books and intellectuals fled to Persia. The empire got immensely weakened by the flight of the intellectuals. (Then the Muslim raiders swooped in, gobbling Persia and much of the empire in a few years.)

In the North-West of the Empire, the Franks took power and humbled the Catholic Church, while re-establishing the freedom of cult, de facto.

Catholics, mostly because of the dreadful influences of the semi-demented tyrant, Louis XIV, and the slave master Napoleon, had acquired an imbalanced power in France that they did not have before, in most of the history of France.

There were Protestants in France since the 12th Century, and they were sometimes top rulers: the Comte de Toulouse, Admiral Coligny (who was Prime Minister), and even the most admired Henri IV.

The Jews were treated equally for 6 centuries, throughout the Renovated Roman Empire, until the First Crusade (pogroms in Alsace and further east), and the rule of dictators like the abominable Saint Louis. The thoroughly despicable Louis XIV threw millions of Protestants out of France, terrifying, molesting and torturing the rest. France, the place were Protestantism was invented, degenerated into infamy. France became a shadow of her former self. Louis’ grandfather, Henri… had been the Protestant-in-Chief. What a dreadful piece of history!

Jews were re-recognized as full citizens in 1789.

All this to say that real “French Intellectuals” cannot be Catholic (apparent exceptions are illusions).

The famed relationship between France and the Catholic Church was that of master (the Franks) to a tool.

Yet, as Catholicism is intrinsically fascist, Absolute Monarchy, when it arose, starting with the first official king of France, Philippe-Auguste (1165-1223), found in Catholicism a convenient justification for its tyranny of biblical proportion. Just as Constantine had.

Patrice Ayme’

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20 Responses to “Western Civilization Is Not Christian”

  1. johsh Says:

    Isn’t it fun to weave our own reality.

    Up until few decades ago, majority of french identified themselves as catholic (as much as 70-80%, even higher, in polling). You cant disclaim that for them. Religion is such a strong force and identity, it drives one’s culture and being daily/life-time.

    I wouldn’t brush away the influence of Lord Jesus Christ’s influence on western culture for about 2000 years now, give or take. (thats a long time, just thinking 100 years life is long).

    If french culture influenced catholic religion, or the other way around, is like every-other symbiosis quandary.

    “All the books and intellectuals fled to Persia.” . I know you are exaggerating, as that is literally impossible. Even now with all the modern transportation and telecom , not everything just moves.

    If persians were that smart (or if all the books/intellectuals were there) they would have influenced islam for centuries to come, much the same way you claim french influenced western culture for centuries now (which is questionable, to say the least).


    • gmax Says:

      If I remember well, Patrice said in the past that there was a peace treaty between Constantinople and the Persians protecting Christian intellectuals!!!

      French Catholics were French first. Now they are Catholics AND Atheists


  2. ianmillerblog Says:

    Given the time, I think there is reasonable evidence for the existence of Cristus (e.g. Tacitus’ Annals). What is interesting is how the anti-Christian acts got started. Rome was very tolerant on religion, although it required religions to be tolerant of others’ religions, and here the Christians failed to perform. The next point came when the great fire broke out, when senators who wanted to get rid of Nero accused Nero of starting it. (According to Tacitus, Nero was in Antium at the time, and he rushed back to Rome and behaved admirably. Not only that, but Nero was as big a loser as anyone.) However, as the accusations built up, Nero needed a scapegoat, so he picked on the Christians, who nobody else liked anyway.

    I am not sure about Constantine. Certainly, he held the congress at Nicaea, but from what I can understand, that was to put all the troublesome factions into one camp. (Those that refused were, I understand, simply thrown over a large cliff.) Was he a Christian really? I have a coin of his, with the image of Constantine holding a pole, at the top of which is a circle with a cross inside. It looks very religious (and this cross inside a circle can still be seen in churches, etc today) but actually this is the symbol of the soldier’s god Sol Invicta. We may not tell the difference, but I bet the average Roman could.


    • gmax Says:

      Constantine was baptized on his death bed. He was devoured with ambition and that’s why he killed his entire family except the little children and his mother Helena


    • EugenR Says:

      Constantine was a vicious politician and military leader. He did not abhorred any act that could help him to gain absolute power. That’s why he killed his sisters husband, Licinius, and his nephew. Also his Christianity was not because of his piety, but because of political reasons. He has than nothing to prevent the persecution of the Christians by Diocletian the emperor for whom he fought successfully wars. Then since he needed the support of eastern Roman Greeks, among them at that time many were Christians, so he decided to use the cross as a symbol of his army, that put in disadvantage the army of Licinius.

      After the victory he established one unified church and annihilating the competing ones, including their followers (gnostics etc.) Then he killed his son and wife, probably because of urge of his mother, Holly Helena.


      • Patrice Ayme Says:

        I agree and approve this excellent description of Saints Constantine and Helena. The murders of Crispus, his famous and successful Caesar of a son, and Constantine’s second wife is shrouded in mystery to this death. However his son thought Christianity to be a danger for the Empire (and so it was said Gibbon, and history clearly shows).

        The Franks, shock troops of the Empire, stayed Pagans for two centuries… Before faking their conversion (to make it easier to rule the Catholic Empire, and impose their new ethics)


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Ian: Christians were not worried during most of the Empire, except for an episode under Nero, and one under Diocletian. There is evidence at least one emperor of the Third Century was a semi-closet Christian. Many top officials were Christians by 300 CE (precipitating the Diocletian Persecution).

      The circle with the cross inside is thousands of years older, than Christianism. It’s the old Celtic Cross.


  3. gmax Says:

    Americans love to serve great Lords whom they call philanthropes. So Jesus is an All American boy. The US is all about serving. Serve the Lord!


  4. Mario Roy Says:

    Mario Roy

    November 29, 2014 • 9:18 am

    Patrice Ayme,

    “A little historical background is in order. Rome had a state religion, but tolerated other religions. As long as they excluded human sacrifices and allowed soldiers to take the military oath. The latter point brought a conflict between (some) Christians and the state, culminating with Emperor Galerius’ savage repression (3,000 Christians or so were executed, before Galerius, struck by cancer, gave it up)”.

    This is wrong. Rome never accepted the Christian movement because it was a lefty, anti-imperialist movement. It was after the third century when the right/conservative wing of Christianity held influence and, because of it, sprung a crack between the two wings of Christianity that lasts until today. Jesus was murdered by the radical/orthodox faction of Jerusalem’s Sanhedrin that was allied of Rome and, after his death, many Jewish joined the Christians in fighting the imperialist ideology of the Roman Empire and local allies.

    The Christians murdered by Rome and local allies all over Europe and Asia were, probably, millions, so Christianity in general and the left wing of Christianity in particular are an essential component in releasing Western culture of imperialism and tyranny.

    You also forget the cruel persecution against lefty Catholics and liberal Christians by the Protestant forces in Europe.

    The Templars were free, communitarian people that were exterminated by the French Philip IV, thus causing a severe damage to the lefty wing of Christianity. Although the primary mission of the Order was military, relatively few members were combatants. The others acted in supporting the Christian’s communities in Europe and Asia. Was the French king Philip IV a relevant figure of the present civilization? I doubt it.

    In short, the progressive influence of politics and economy over the people’s spiritual feelings have formed a big mess provided that such feelings are rooted in the personal sensitivity. Even worse, I’m afraid that hyper-regulation over the spiritual feeling of people will distort the connection with the spiritual realm.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      “Roman Catholicism” as its name indicate, was the Roman state religion.
      Repeating blindly propaganda which can be easily proven to be false, is Medieval. Christians killed millions, not conversely.
      If nothing else, Philippe Le Bel invented the modern police state, and showed the Pope was not beyond the reach of the law.
      Claiming the Protestants cruelly persecuted the Catholics, was, at least for the first 400 years of it (1150 to 1550), the world upside down…


  5. EugenR Says:

    Dear Patrice, you have not mentioned, that Christianity’s popularity was a social response of the slaves, (probably 30% of Roman population) to their inhuman state. The free Roman citizens mainly in the western parts followed the slaves only later. You mentioned not once that the Franks were those who abolished slavery in Europe. I think Christianity has also part in it.
    When Rom fall apart and was devastated culturally, economically and socially by the barbarians, the Christian monasteries were the institutions that preserved the antic cultural heritage for centuries.
    When Charlemagne created the Christendom, it leaned his empire on this heritage and saved Europe from Muslim takeover.
    The uncompromising orthodoxy of the medieval Christians after Charlemagne was a result of continuous invasions of Vikings from the north and the Muslims from the south.
    So, as rightly Johsh wrote above, you can’t denial the cultural impact of 2000 years of religious practices.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Dear Eugen: That Christianity was a response of the slaves sounds good, but I have no evidence Constantine was a slave.
      Actually Constantine was the son of a general, who became a Caesar, and then an Augustus, a c0-ruler of the Empire, who was esteemed and who died unexpectedly of a disease in his bed.
      Constantine was a Court kid, and feared, even as a teenager. He became a Caesar as a teen (or close to it), and was even named Augustus by the British legions, upon the death of his dad.

      There were slaves revolts during the Republic. But not during the fascist Empire. No doubt the 6,000 survivors of Spartacus’ army who danced on crosses for days, left a scarring memory. Also, as conquests were fewer, and everybody poorer among the peasants, slavery lost importance.

      I mentioned zillions of times that the Franks abolished slavery under the government of queen Bathilde (truly the equivalent of a Roman Augusta). I cannot repeat always the same things: people would get bored. And it’s a drawback of writing essays on the Internet.

      Charlemagne happened after the fall of the Omayyad Caliphate, which the Franks indirectly caused (according to me). That was in 750 CE. Charlemagne made an alliance with some Muslims, to fight others. The end result was the creation of the Spanish March states, including Catalonia and Aragon. A distant ancestor of mine was thus made Count. You would be amused to know what the armories look like…

      So Charlemagne led the counter-attack against Islam. But the main work had been done by his father and especially grandfather.

      Indeed the first Viking attack, a monstrous assault against Frisia by thousands of long boats happened under Charlemagne, in 810 CE. Charlemagne led a massive counter-attack.

      Christianity was NOT opposed to slavery. Where did you see Zezus irate against slavery? By 400 CE, some of the greatest slave owners were bishops. Some had more than 400 slaves, a considerable number at the time.

      Christians are lying through their teeth. The real history of religion in the West was far from a Christian (that is Catholic) monopoly.

      The Frankish Revolution was claimed to be “Catholic”, but that was a play on words. Yes, it was catholic, that is… universal…


  6. gmax Says:

    @ Ian: For centuries, Christians got baptized on their death beds. As Patrice said, Christians killed all they could for centuries, and that’s what brought Islam


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  9. Patrice Ayme Says:

    We have hundreds of interlocked references to all famous Romans . Plus countless statues made when he was alive, his house, his trophy, etc. The evidence with Jesus: he was fabricated. Saint Paul, first reference on Jesus says this for all to see: Jesus appeared in his head!


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