Savage, The Franks? Islam Is Worse

Our friend the half-philosophers may start to huff and puff, as “Franks” were citizens of a federation (actually two of them, the one of the Sea, and the one of the River; the one of the Sea, or more exactly, Salt, is now known as Salian, or Salic).

Whereas “Islam” is a thought system, devised by some Arab warriors (PBUH), who got a good gig going for themselves.

To put in the same basket an ethnicity and a religion  is what some half-philosophers would love to call a “category mistake”. The irony is that I know (the basics of) Category Theory, and they don’t.

In Category Theory, there is a concept called a functor, which allows to go from one category to another.

Is Islam a functor from life, to death?

Is Islam a functor from life, to death?

In other words, because I know of functors, I can mix and match different categories such as Franks and Islam, and be relaxed about it (instead of being all gripped and unimaginative, as the average constipated half-philosopher; notice in passing that the concept “functor” was invented by the philosopher Carnap in linguistics).

The historian Pirenne, long ago, suggested the thesis that the collapse of the economy in the High Middle Ages was caused by the Islamists (Islam confiscated most of the Roman empire, and imposed a total embargo, cutting not just the Paper route, but the Silk Road).

In other news, On Fascism, Russian & Islamist Edition, Feb 26, 2015, a plan surfaced for the invasion of Ukraine, written more than a year ago, by some major Russian plutocrats, who have influence on Putin and are best buddies with the leadership of the Russian “Orthodox” Church.

Don’t worry, anybody involved will soon die, and things will calm down, this is Putin’s way.

There is a clear self-censorship going on throughout the West right now, because people are scared of these fanatics, the Putinists, and the Islamists. This, in turn, is deleterious to any critical mood, thus discourse, thus adverse to fixing any problem.

One cannot have a sane public discourse if one cannot even draw a human being. Having public insanity in place of public discourse will affect the Republic, to the point it will die, and that is why it died in all and any nation that submitted to Submission (aka “Islam”).


As it rose Christianism destroyed the Roman Republic (or what was left of it). In 363 CE, under fanatical emperor Jovian, an ex-general, a systematic policy of burning libraries got started (Jovian may have been behind the assassination of laic emperor Julian, I am speculating). In 381 CE under ex-general Theodosius, then emperor, laws were passed to enact a “War Against the Philosophers“. Heresy (“making a choice”) became punishable by death.

The Roman empire, which still had many characters of a Republic (which officially it was… Now a “Christian” Republic) exploded.

However, in the next century, in the West, the Franks took control, and build a Catholicism so moderate that it made Paganism, Judaism, and Apostasy all legal (and conversions in all directions).

Interestingly, the Franks, who soon built what they called “Europe”, as an empire, have the reputation of uncouth savages. “Frank” means Ferocious, not just Free.

But the Franks had no problem with Catholics becoming Jews: entire village converted, until the priest was the only Christian in town. Charlemagne himself, 4 centuries after the Franks acceded to power, had his friends call him “David”, because he wanted to be like Israel’s King David (not a friend of God, according to the Bible).

Compare with the savagery of Islam: somebody who leaves Islam is to be killed, say the Hadiths.

So what of the supposed great intellectual tradition of “Islam”? That sounds strange, on the face of it. What about the great intellectual tradition of Christianism? Well, the answer is that there is no such a thing: as soon as he became a fanatical Christian, Pascal produced nothing. All great “Christian” intellectuals are intellectuals first, and, second spent the reminder of their mental capabilities avoiding the fire in which the church wanted to throw them.

In France alone, around 1530, three major philosophers were burned alive for having contradicted Catholicism. This explains why Descartes, a century later, preferred to live in the Netherlands.

Contrarily to repute, the situation with Islam was even worse. At least, in the West, intellectuals could engage the Church in full combat, and they often won. This is a direct consequence of the Frankish leadership submitting the Christian leadership, starting in the Fifth Century. After that time, the Church was never again the government of the West (except inside the Papal states, a gift of Charlemagne, later de facto rescinded).

Famously, around 1300 CE Philippe IV of France and his vassal the English king engaged in full submission of the Pope and his army. The Pope and the Templars both ended judged, dead, and, more importantly, taxed.

So what of these great Muslim thinkers? The answer is that most of them were, truly Jewish or Christians, or very recently “converted”, or then did not finish too well.


The fact is, the greatest Muslim university, Al Azhar in Cairo, is definitively founded on what the Franks, 15 centuries ago, would have viewed as barbarian principles. It actually refused to condemn the “Islamist State” as not conform to Islam.

Al Azhar has decided that those who renounce Islam and their children ought to be killed:

“In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful


Fatwa Committee

A question from Mr. Ahmed Darwish who presented the question through Mr. (Blanked out) of German nationality:

A Muslim man of Egyptian nationality married a Christian woman of German nationality. The two spouses agreed that the aforementioned Muslim man would enter the Christian religion and join the Christian creed.

  1. What is the ruling of Islam regarding this person’s situation?
  2. Are his children considered Muslims or Christians and what is their ruling? 

The Answer:

All praises are due to Allah, lord of all the worlds. And peace and blessings be upon the greatest of all messengers, our master Muhammad and upon his family and companions all together. As for what follows: 

We inform that he has apostatized after having been in a state of Islam, so he should be asked to repent. If he does not repent, he should be killed according to the sharia.

As for his children, so long as they are small they are Muslims. After they have attained maturity, if they remain in Islam then they are Muslims. If they leave it, then they should be asked to repent. If they do not repent, they should be killed. And Allah knows best.

President of the Fatwa Committee of Al-Azhar

Seal of the Committee

September 23, 1978”

Our civilization was founded on rejecting this sort of savagery on the part of Christianism. When the Islamists appeared, the Franks considered them to be a Christian sect, the Sons of Sarah (Saracens). Let’s persist in rejecting the savagery.

Antique Greece was not just defined by what it built, but what it rejected, the Barbarians (those whose talk sounded animal-like: barr… baa). One cannot be positive all the times, otherwise positivity itself loses meaning.

Patrice Ayme’

P/S: After publishing the preceding, it came to light that the Islamist State, applying literally the savage texts that guide them, destroyed Mesopotamian art more than twice older than the invention of Islam by the raiders (Muhammad and the father of his 6 years old child bride, etc.). isil-video-shows-destruction-mosul-artifacts-150226153158545

There is no savagery but savagery, and Islam is its prophet?

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14 Responses to “Savage, The Franks? Islam Is Worse”

  1. ianmillerblog Says:

    Patrice, anyone can be religious and be an intellectual, but as you rightly point out, you cannot be fanatically religious, or fanatical about anything else, and be an intellectual, because being an intellectual means you question things, and proper questioning is forbidden by fanaticism.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Exactly my point. The original Roman meaning, BTW, was just someone coming out of the “fanum”.
      Other point; the Republic itself is a religion. Rome demonstrated this for at least 5 centuries.


  2. gmax Says:

    Did you get the idea of calling them savages from Chris Kyle, really?


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Actually, I got the idea, way back. But I must admit I was encouraged by seeing the late Mr. Kyle use it. Too bad he was killed, he was an interesting character (meaning he had interesting thing to say, and counter).


  3. EugenR Says:

    I published in your site the following, and got responses.
    What amazes me is that the following article was published on BBC, thee radio station of freedom and sanity during WWII. It seems to be prised today in BBC as kind and good looking being, you have to behead few “infidels”.

    EugenR Says:

    I was reading this article in the BBC, and almost cried out of sorrow for mr. Mohammed Emwazi called Jihady John, and the cruelty he had to suffer from, that obviously explains the reasons behind him beheading dozens of representatives of Western inhumanity and nihilism.
    As to Asim Qureshi, the research director of the London-based human rights group Cage is of course a very humanistic organisation, who can explain all the beheadings, acts of rape, muslim fascistic verbal and non verbal cruelty as a humanistic act of self defense.

    Patrice Ayme Says:
    February 26, 2015 at 8:53 pm | Reply
    Thanks Eugen, very interesting!
    (BTW, I don’t know if the irony is understood by all: many of these monster are described as “beautiful, soft-spoken, most gentle, etc.”, just as was in the article you link.)
    The fact is, as the late USA sniper Chris Kyle had it, there are “savages”. Or “barbarians” (bababababa), as Ancient Greece had it. Maybe I put another essay on that today…

    Duviel Rodriguez Says:
    February 26, 2015 at 8:55 pm | Reply
    Same old story. Always someone making excuses for POS’s in society. Its never their fault, they are always the victims. It sickens me!

    Thanks for the laugh.

    Patrice Ayme Says:
    February 27, 2015 at 12:37 am | Reply
    POS? Well, inspired by Chris Kyle (PBUH), I wrote the last essay, pointing it out a few important points…
    Savages are bad. Organized savages are worse.


    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      There is a severe madness and masochistic orgy going on in Europe that started after the windefeat of 1945 (democracy won, lost, Europe saved, destroyed). It has reached its ultimate in refusing to see Islam for what it is, fascism made into religion, or, for that matter, the money creation system for what it, stealing made into the backbone of the economy.

      All this comes from one illness: the relativization of civilization. It started way back: the Kaiser’s fascist, savage and mass criminal plutocracy was viewed as civilized (still is, and one is called “anti-German”, if one disagree!). Then Stalin the mass butcher was extended the same courtesy, and so on.


  4. Paul Handover Says:

    Patrice, I am indebted to you, once again, for educating me! I suspect there are many others who would welcome your insights. Ergo, I would be grateful for your permission to republish this next week over on Learning from Dogs.


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