Greta Thunberg: High Treason To Civilization? Make Europe Greta’s Apocalypse?


Greta, the climate maniac, has gone nuts and opportunistic for all to see… Her parents were actors, that’s her acting. She has protested hysterically and moronically against French farmers creating lakes to fight droughts. Her latest target: French freeways. She is helped by so-called “black blocks” masked hoodlums in herds by the thousands paid to go around Europe destroying stuff… Who pays them? Putin? How come they are not caged?

This sort of acting against lakes and roads has nothing to do with climate change, everything to do with celebritism… In France the climate war is turning vicious, the government having gone Greta. The government is actively dissuading people from driving cars, sometimes putting taxes in excess of $70,000 on ONE car (sporty models). The funny thing is that electric cars as presently done have no impact on climate… except and until nobody can afford them, nobody has valets to go charge them, or Musk solar panels with Musk batteries to charge at home their Musk cars, in one’s five million dollar mansion (from buying Musk stock)… so nobody can drive… which is clearly the aim in France. I am writing this in 2024. It was very different 18 months ago. Now it’s clear…

Yes, winter in the Alps, where I am presently located, has been maybe 11 Celsius above average in 4 weeks moving average (I am estimating this). And yes I am zero surprised

20 years ago, where I am located, there would have been more than a meter of snow for two months already. Now there are traces of snow… sometimes… a kilometer higher. Palm trees are thriving. Banana trees grow. Tropical plants are met in the wilderness, deep in the woods, healthy and strong. Butterflies in January… In the Alps, above lake Geneva… I am zero surprised: climate change is a super exponential and we are on target for PLUS SEVEN Centigrades by 2100. I have been saying this for years… And yes, the sea level will rise by meters, etc. The IPCC, the UN climate catastrophe body, has been careful to not be too catastrophic,.. Lest it displeases its fossil fuels fuelled sponsors… 

BUT a major cause for this disaster has been the fake ecologists who have dominated the information space for decades, with their lies and hysteria. They targeted nuclear power, and succeeded: we are still stuck with not very efficient and potentially dangerous second generation reactors… we should be in generation four, eating their own waste.

The price of the fake ecologists success against nuclear power has been a climate catastrophe: all electric generation that is not PV and hydraulic could have been nuclear, that is carbon free.

Also the fake ecologists pushed against hydrogen, prefering to sponsor huge electric cars for wealthy posers…

Indeed, wrong minded celebrities and eco-stupid people make a bad situation worse, as they made up wrong plastic trees to bark up to. Most ecologists are just celebrities insisting on stupid policies which are devised to be hateful and ineffective, to give fighting climate change a bad name, and preventing it… Because celebritism is sponsored by the powers that be, that is… fossil fuels…

For example French ecologists made a secret accord in 1999 with the French Socialist PM, Jospin: we will support you, but you will destroy nuclear energy, including maintenance and research. Wonder who got the idea… Simultaneously a law was passed to never drill for French natural gas. Wonder who got the idea…  And a solution was found: Russian gas. Wonder who got the idea…  

Such traitors should be tried for high treason to civilization.

Nuclear energies under all their forms, especially the future ones, are the number one solution to the climate crisis. True solar PV can help enormously in some climates… Especially with hydrogen and derivatives… Hydrogen that can also be derived carbon free from many types of nuclear…

A breakthrough was made in California at LLL, what is called INERTIAL THERMONUCLEAR FUSION was achieved with positive energy gain by multiple factors. The lab in question is a nuclear weapon lab, and that research is just a hobby. You would assume that Europe has launched a gigantic program of investment in this… All the more as it is laser tech dependent and lasers have extreme military interest, especially considering what is going in Ukraine, Israel and the Red Sea…

However, in Europe, right now, Greta has won. The French government has turned Greta and has decided to phase out cars (they will say no no no, but they are lying). Europe has decided to phase out growth. They call it “degrowth”, it’s the official policy… Wonder who got the idea… The same high treason to civilization outfit? 

All that European degrowth has accomplished is that now a US nuclear carrier task force is keeping the Red Sea open, and is engaged in the heaviest sea battle since World War Two (dixit Pentagon). The US task force is helped by two French and two British destroyers. They are all busy firing two million dollar missiles at a rich assortment of drones, sea skimming and ballistic missiles… Otherwise the Red Sea closes, and so does the Suez Canal, Egypt, etc… The point is, as Trump no doubt notices, is that the Roman empire used to sprawl along the Red Sea. It should be for Europe to keep the Red Sea open, not US taxpayers… Ah, but European ecologists paid by the Kremlin do not like nuclear power…So a US task force with several nuclear boats can’t please them… Or, more exactly, do not please their masters in the Kremlin…  

There should be a hefty carbon tax, all over, and the free market would do the rest… providing consumers with the most efficient cars… that means, in 2024, hybrid cars… And, in general, the most efficient battery systems. There is an optimal battery mass at a stage of battery development, depending upon the product (a fixed installation can use a massive battery). To be obsessed by pure Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) is not climate optimal. Demonizing the fossil fuel industry is so hypocritical that it is counterproductive.

Greta, whatever her name is, did not complete her second year of high school. Instead she went on knowledge strike because it was too hot in Sweden. But what we need now is knowledge. She should be careful that French farmers, who have difficult lives because of endowed hypocrites like her, may want to drown her in one of these bassines they built so agriculture still has water in summer… To feed us, who don’t dine with presidents, as she does, just because she has no education mais juste une grande gueule… to serve the mighty with her smoke screens…

Patrice Ayme

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20 Responses to “Greta Thunberg: High Treason To Civilization? Make Europe Greta’s Apocalypse?”

  1. nigelsouthway Says:

    Its clear that the NetZero journey is reaching an end based on reality and common sense.

    Here is why..

    Many scientists are now saying that the climate change is mainly natural and not a threat that cannot be fixed with a small amount of local adaption.

    A warming planet is a safe planet.. Its happened 3 times before in historically recorded times.. medieval warm period, roman warm period, and Minoan warm period, and times were good, it was the cold bits in-between that we struggled with..

    A good book to read is A Very Convenient Warming: How modest warming and more CO2 are benefiting humanity: Gregory Wrightstone: 9781662885853: Amazon.com: Books

    The alternatives to fossil fuels other than nuclear (that should be accelerated) are not going to work.

    Governments based on this will demand prosperity before a costly mitigation process that targets one of the main resources that has enabled us to grow the population and still feed it.. fossil fuels.

    The resource sectors are reacting accordingly.. and staying focused on that direction.

    Anything else is foolish, and a waste of our resources talent and time.

    More at..  A Political New-Year’s Resolution On Climate Change (brainzmagazine.com)

    https://www.brainzmagazine.com/post/a-political-new-year-s-resolution-on-climate-change

    PS… The IPCC is full of shit!!

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      In 2023 we have blown past the old records. Warmest year in more than 100,000 years, the Eemian… The situation in Alpine Europe is grotesque: + 20 F…

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      • nigelsouthway Says:

        Warmest year in 8000 years?.. nonsense.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Ooopss you forgot 100,000 years….
          An astonishing seven consecutive months of record-breaking warmth have culminated in a grim milestone for humanity: 2023 was, officially, Earth’s hottest year on record.

          That assessment, announced Tuesday by the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service, follows a year in which extreme heat smothered multiple continents simultaneously, pushed ocean temperatures to alarming highs and spurred dire warnings about the worsening effects of climate change.

          “2023 was an exceptional year with climate records tumbling like dominoes,” read a statement from Samantha Burgess, deputy director of Copernicus. “Not only is 2023 the warmest year on record, it is also the first year with all days over 1 degree Celsius warmer than the preindustrial period. Temperatures during 2023 likely exceed those of any period in at least the last 100,000 years.”

          With a global average temperature of 58.96 degrees, last year was about 0.31 of a degree warmer than the previous hottest year on record, 2016, according to data from Copernicus. December was also the warmest on record globally, as were all the months from June through November.
          https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-01-09/its-official-2023-was-the-warmest-year-on-record#:~:text=%E2%80%9CNot%20only%20is%202023%20the,least%20the%20last%20100%2C000%20years.%E2%80%9D

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          • nigelsouthway Says:

            I will try to not be offended by being compared to Greta. 😊

            The point is that there is more evidence that supports that we don’t have a problem than that we do. And certainly assuming we are highly capable of selective adaption….To panic into NetZero type solutions that will make it worse is not sane…. I doubt we have enough data to suggest that this is the warmest year.. its just media nonsense again. And its weather variation… not climate.

            Let’s apply some common sense shall we?

            We have far more important things to get done than worry about the climate..

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Feb. 13, 2024, 11:39 AM PST
      Denise Chow & PA
      Global warming is turning Greenland green.

      Parts of Greenland’s ice sheet and glaciers that melted over the past three decades have been replaced by wetlands, shrub vegetation and areas of barren rock, according to a new study that used satellite images to track changes since the 1980s.

      The findings, published Tuesday in the journal Scientific Reports, raise concerns about how Greenland’s retreating ice could threaten the stability of the landscape, exacerbate rising sea levels and contribute further greenhouse gas emissions in areas that have turned into methane-producing wetlands.

      Greenland is often considered “ground zero” for the climate crisis because even small shifts in temperature can have outsize impacts across the entire Arctic region — and around the world. Scientists have estimated that if the Greenland ice sheet were to melt completely, it could raise global sea levels by more than 23 feet.
      The study found that an estimated 11,000 square miles of Greenland’s ice sheet and glaciers have melted over the past 30 years — an area roughly nine times the size of Rhode Island and equivalent to around 1.6% of Greenland’s total ice cover.Using satellite images, the researchers found that the amount of land with vegetation growing on it has increased by 33,774 square miles from the mid-1980s through the mid-2010s. Some of the most significant changes were observed across southwestern, eastern and northeastern Greenland, according to the study.

      Wetlands, in particular, nearly quadrupled across Greenland over the study period, particularly around the town of Kangerlussuaq on the western coast.Wetlands are methane machines…

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      • nigelsouthway Says:

        I guess its all about adaption as we have done many times before.. the good news is that our ability to adapt with technology and our power using fossil fuels will make our adaptive capability far batter than in prior warm periods.

        What we have is a thinking problem….. First we think that climate change is our fault, and its clear lt is not, and then we think we have the power to mitigate it… wrong on both counts.. Once we understand our place on this planet and its own agenda the better.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Of course, the torrid global warming is our fault, and of course we had no choice. So is it really our fault because we had, and we have no choice?
          Mitigation exists. Had ecologists not been prostitutes paid by the Kremlin, or paid by people paid by the Kremlin, and manipulated by SOME in the fossil fuel industry in general, all the electric production could be carbon free.
          The present French president closed two perfectly functional reactors. Stasi agent, thus Putin employee, Merkel, closed all German nukes.
          I have sketched how to get energy from the vacuum… No research program in that yet.
          However, if I mention that to MSM, they censor it… The censors have had probably no physics whatsoever…

          PLUS 10 C in the polar regions would be disastrous medium term. But that’s what we got in the Alps this winter…

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          • nigelsouthway Says:

            Response to your erroneous comments one by one..

            No proof other than failed climate models that a naturally warming planet is our fault.

            We have contributed to increase in CO2 but it has had a very small impact on temperature…. but it has improved the food supply.

            Forget carbon free strategies … it’s a myth pushed by elites to make money.. we are sticking with Fossil fuels and nuclear.

            We are building nuclear capability here in Canada.. get the EU to learn from us.

            On every metric a warmer planet is good news.

            What I hate is unscientific statements with no facts… and that is what the IPCC is doing … Many scientists are now providing the truth…

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          • Patrice Ayme Says:

            I have done research and taught physics at Stanford and UC Berkeley… And I have been alert about the climate since ever. One reason was an uncle of mine, who led an institute of astrphysics and built a major observatory (the one which discovered the first exo-planets) was going atmospheric research at the Jungfrau, even before the 1950s… I do agree that the climate models are insufficient. The IPCC discards classes of data that it is to devoid of enough data about. Like permafrost of ice shelves… Me, instead, I guess. That’s what I call catastrophic calculus.
            So I am calm and I find your passion an interesting object of study. You remind me of Greta. Except Greta I know tht her job to be hysterical and a prima donna…
            The physics of warming are subtle. CO2 acts as a trigger on stratospheric H2O.

            BTW you love to mention how warm it was in Roman times… And it’s true glaciers were higher than now (but stable, whereas now they are melting very fast).

            But there were reindeer in the Hercynian forest (Hercinia silva)… in central western Europe… That’s in Caesar and other writers… So it was not that warmm… It just lasted longer, the warming… What we have now is much more brutal…

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          • nigelsouthway Says:

            The point is that there is more evidence that supports that we don’t have a problem than that we do. And certainly assuming we are highly capable of selective adaption….To panic into NetZero type solutions that will make it worse is not sane…. I doubt we have enough data to suggest that this is the warmest year.. its just media nonsense again. And its weather variation… not climate.

            Let’s apply some common sense shall we?

            We have far more important things to get done than worry about the climate..

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          • Patrice Ayme Says:

            Ski resort operators will disagree.
            The US Navy is busy modifying its bases for a large sea level rise.
            Amusingly Greta the Ignorant fights French farmers mitigating the disaster…. With artifiial lakes. The problem has been a disappearing water table…
            I agree WW3 is a bigger problem

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  2. Paul Handover Says:

    I have sat on my hands, so to speak, for a couple of days, about Patrice’s blogpost and Nigel’s reply.

    At first I thought the conclusion was wrong. Indeed, this month’s Science magazine has a feature article on the Amazon (p.692). The article ‘A River In Flux’ speaks of the extreme flooding and droughts that may be the “new norm for the Amazon, challenging its people and ecosystems”.

    Now I am confused!

    The warming of this planet is without doubt the addition of CO2 into the Earth’s systems, and the cause is the consumption of fossil fuels. The polar ice is declining, sea level rises are well under way, and a host of other changes are happening. Humans are responsible.

    The book that Nigel recommends, the one mentioned in his reply, would be one that I might read (if I had the time which at the moment I do not).

    So is the message that all this change in the climate is a good thing? And, Nigel, what is the ‘small amount of local adaptation’ required?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I have been busy too… I have answered Nigel in the past, in great detail. I will answer more, with a different angle in a short essay.

      Some of what Greta says is true, some of what Nigel insists on, is true. Alaska, Siberia or Canada could do, after tremendous adaptation, with the incoming changes. The changes in Alaska have been astounding. I related that in an essay in the past. A gigantic glacier I used to know completely disappeared. I drove there, and I felt like I was having Alzheimer. I just couldn’t recognize the place, I was completely lost, I thought I went up the wrong valley… But there is just two roads in the area.

      Not only that glacier was gone, but the ones on the surrounding mountains were also gone to the point the mountains could not be identified.

      This winter in the Western Alps, temps are around 10 C above average. It’s outright ridiculous: butterflies in January, flowers in February… Tropical plants in the alpine woods, all shiny and green in the middle of winter…

      Climate change is concentrated in polar and mountain regions. Palm and banana trees in the Alps is funny, as we have already, but we are going to be less amused when the AMOC freezes because Greenland and Antarctica are melting big time… Anyway more later. 2 tons electric cars wont save us (but the Chinese are coming up with better ones…)

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  3. Paul Handover Says:

    This was in The Guardian recently that only adds to my confusion:

    Vanishing ice and snow: record warm winter wreaks havoc across US midwest

    Stephen Starr, The Guardian

    This winter’s mild temperatures in the US, a “result of climate change”, have “wrecked plans and disrupted local economies”, in the midwest, reports the Guardian. By mid-February, ice cover on the Great Lakes historically averages around 40%, but this year it was about 4%, the newspaper continues. Even before the official end of winter on 19 March, “three normally frigid cities – Grand Forks, North Dakota; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; and Minneapolis-St Paul, Minnesota” – have already recorded their warmest winter on record, the article adds. The central US has “just witnessed what was probably its most significant February heatwave on record, after scores of records were not just broken, but demolished”, reports the Washington Post. Half a dozen states, along with more than 130 cities and towns, have now registered their highest February temperature on record, the article notes. An amplified and powerful jet stream featuring a deep dip or trough in the West and a ridge in the East, “helped to propel a warm air mass from the Gulf of Mexico to the Great Lakes beginning Monday”, reports Axios. Temperatures reaching 40F (4.4C) above average for this time of year, bringing highs over 100F (37.7C) in Texas and fueling wildfires, “while also felling records in Mexico and Canada”, it adds

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      That the heating of the biosphere is a super exponential, I have predicted for decades. Now we see it: 2023 was the warmest year in more than 110,000 years. But there is LOTS of INERTIA in the system: ice does not melt instantaneously. In the Western Alps, the temp rise this winter was more than 10 C (more than 20 F). I couldn’t go xcountry skiing…

      Individuals such as Nigel live in places like Canada where winters are still extremely cold, and, in case of massive heating (+ 7C) will still be cold…

      My beef with people like Greta is that they ask to cut off fossil fuels immediately, and that’s possible only in a world war.

      Instead I advocate to hyper fund fundamental research, and rising the price of carbon considerably (while helping basic seervices and the plebs). Say cut down private jets, and expensive shipping (by forcing the use of additional sails, the tech exists…). PV, nuclear and green hydrogen + hydrogen derivatives should be helped to the max. BEV, not as much as they are now, the tech isn’t mature enough…

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  4. nigelsouthway Says:

    Look….On every averaged observed and reported metric the planet and its inhabitants are benefiting from a naturally warming and greening planet.

    Science is about observation and analysis and not models and wild predictions that keep getting proved wrong.

    We are also in the jaws of a climate crisis industrial complex that cannot and does not want to face the truth that we are far from a state of emergency….. as the money is too good….. This next is a very sobering presentation… We need more of this discussion to get to the truth.

    David Siegel: Manufacturing Climate Consent | Tom Nelson Pod #147 (youtube.com)

    Yes the planet will change, and get over it….All we have to do is undertake adaption as we have done many times before.. the good news is that our ability to adapt with technology and our power using fossil fuels will make our adaptive capability far batter than in prior warm periods.

    What we have is a thinking problem….. First we think that climate change is our fault, and its clear lt is not, and then we think we have the power to mitigate it… wrong on both counts..

    Plus most of the population will want to continue with business as usual ..Its only the arrogant western world that thinks it can undertake mitigation that will bring on its own demise, with useless renewable strategies that just wont work. The rest will want to continue to build new coal plants to have a prosperous future.

    Once we understand our place on this planet and its own agenda the better.

    Another point…. Pollution is always a worthy cause but must not to be confused with the pointless mitigation of CO2 and the futile effort to attack climate change.

    We need to accept the definitive need for the ongoing need for fossil fuels to support our modern prosperity, and they will be essential to support any adaption to a naturally warming planet.

    Any notion that fossil fuels can be quickly displaced with other technologies is unrealistic, foolish and irresponsible.

    Forget NetZero… its not going to happen in Canada.

    Here is an article that is just about where most of our voters are now…

    We will be changing governments and going back to normal and sound reason soon.

    Joe Oliver: Liberals need to ditch Steven Guilbeault’s radical activism (msn.com)

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/joe-oliver-liberals-need-to-ditch-steven-guilbeault-s-radical-activism/ar-BB1j28QQ?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=dc7833b993a84c3cbf51a30d58bb3b9a&ei=67

    We do need to focus on pollution… far more important!

    We need to stop the throwaway consumer lifestyle.

    What we need to do is apply “sustainability thinking” to our whole economy.

    We do need to make mine and grow much more of what we consume in a short and localized supply chain economy so we can have more of a circular economy, so that we can recycle, reuse, re-purpose, reclaim and mainly avoid throwing away any materials we dig out of the ground or grow and process for our use.

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  5. Patrice Ayme Says:

    In reply to nigelsouthway.

    Ooopss you forgot 100,000 years….
    An astonishing seven consecutive months of record-breaking warmth have culminated in a grim milestone for humanity: 2023 was, officially, Earth’s hottest year on record.

    That assessment, announced Tuesday by the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service, follows a year in which extreme heat smothered multiple continents simultaneously, pushed ocean temperatures to alarming highs and spurred dire warnings about the worsening effects of climate change.

    “2023 was an exceptional year with climate records tumbling like dominoes,” read a statement from Samantha Burgess, deputy director of Copernicus. “Not only is 2023 the warmest year on record, it is also the first year with all days over 1 degree Celsius warmer than the preindustrial period. Temperatures during 2023 likely exceed those of any period in at least the last 100,000 years.”

    With a global average temperature of 58.96 degrees, last year was about 0.31 of a degree warmer than the previous hottest year on record, 2016, according to data from Copernicus. December was also the warmest on record globally, as were all the months from June through November.
    https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-01-09/its-official-2023-was-the-warmest-year-on-record#:~:text=%E2%80%9CNot%20only%20is%202023%20the,least%20the%20last%20100%2C000%20years.%E2%80%9D

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  6. nigelsouthway Says:

    I will try to not be offended by being compared to Greta. 😊

    The point is that there is more evidence that supports that we don’t have a problem than that we do. And certainly assuming we are highly capable of selective adaption….To panic into NetZero type solutions that will make it worse is not sane…. I doubt we have enough data to suggest that this is the warmest year.. its just media nonsense again. And its weather variation… not climate.

    Let’s apply some common sense shall we?

    We have far more important things to get done than worry about the climate..

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Not only was 2023 the warmest year, but it is likely that 2024 will be warmer. The present El Nino was the 6th super El Nino since 1950… And El Nino warms more the year after…

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