Is Nancy Pelosi A Self-Indicting War Criminal?


Biden (as Chair, Senate Foreign Committee) and Pelosi (as Ranking Member, US Congress intelligence Committee) enabled the invasion of Iraq by Bush in 2002-2003. Either of those two could have stopped that war of Aggression. Instead, Biden insisted that Iraq had WMDs (Weapons Of Mass Destruction). Bush caught on the idea 6 months later…

The following is an uninterrupted extract of a transcript of a Pelosi interview straight from CNN… which the Pluto owned Main Stream Media carefully ignores, going as far as claiming, in Wikipedia (!) that it is “fake news“… thus unfortunately turning Wikipedia itself into fake news:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1912/05/se.01.html

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DEAN CHIEN, STUDENT, JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY: So, Speaker Pelosi, you resisted calls for the impeachment of President Bush in 2006, and President Trump, following the Mueller report earlier this year.

This time it’s different. Why did you impose – why did you oppose impeachment in the past? And what is your obligation to protect our democracy from the actions of our President now?

PELOSI: Thank you. Thank you for bringing up the question about – because when I became Speaker the first time, there was overwhelming call for me to impeach President Bush, on the strength of the war in Iraq, which I vehemently opposed, and again not – again, I – I say “Again,” I said – said at other places that I – that was my we – all has always (ph) Intelligence.

I was Ranking Member on the Intelligence Committee even before I became part of the leadership of Gang of Four. So, I knew there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq. It just wasn’t there.

They had to show us now – to show the Gang of Four all the Intelligence they had. The Intelligence did not show that that – that was the case. So, I knew it was a – a misrepresentation to the public. But having said that, it was a, in my view, not a ground for impeachment. That was – they won the election. They made a representation. And to this day, people think – people think that that it was the right thing to do.

If people think that Iraq had something to do with the 9/11, I mean it’s as appalling what they did. But I did – and I’ve said, if somebody wants to make a case, you bring it forward.

But I – I – they had impeached Bill Clinton for a personal indiscretion, and misrepresenting about it, impeached him. Some of these same people are saying, “Oh, this doesn’t rise to impeachment,” were the – right there impeaching Bill Clinton for – for being stupid in terms of something like that.

(AUDIENCE LAUGHTER)

PELOSI: I mean I love him. I think he was a great President. But being stupid in terms of that and – and – and what would somebody do, not to embarrass their family.

But in any event, and that’s how they did with Bill Clinton. Now, they want me to do George. This – I just didn’t want it to be a way of life in our country.

From Japan Time. The more US war criminals and criminals against humanity escape US justice, the more terrible the verdict of history will be upon US society.

I, Patrice Ayme, will presently quote and comment from the preceding:

“So, Speaker Pelosi, you resisted calls for the impeachment of President Bush in 2006… why did you oppose impeachment in the past?” 

PELOSI: … when I became Speaker the first time, there was overwhelming call for me to impeach President Bush, on the strength of the war in Iraq, which I vehemently opposed [incoherent rambling]

I was Ranking Member on the Intelligence Committee even before I became part of the leadership of Gang of Four. So, I knew there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq. It just wasn’t there.

They had to show us now – to show the Gang of Four all the Intelligence they had. The Intelligence did not show that that – that was the case. So, I knew it was a – a misrepresentation to the public…in my view, not a ground for impeachment. That was – they won the election. They made a representation. And to this day, people think – people think that that it was the right thing to do.

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Who are these “people” who tell Pelosi what’s the right thing to do?

Killing Iraqis By The Millions Is Cool; Is Nancy Pelosi A Murderous Racist?

So Pelosi knew the “Public” was lied to to justify the invasion of a country. Not a ground for impeachment, she claims. Killing 2.4 million Iraqis is not a ground for impeachment. Why? “They won the election”. Never mind 2.4 million dead Iraqis? Would killing 2.4 million US citizens be a ground for impeachment? Nancy Pelosi would probably agree that killing 2.4 million Americans should be, no doubt, a ground for impeachment. Conclusion: killing 2.4 million non-US citizens is OK, but not 2.4 million US citizens.

Thus, Nancy is a racist not fundamentally different from the Nazis, who thought killing six million Poles was not a ground for impeachment (of Adolf Hitler)… because Poles, living next door, didn’t register as humans. For Pelosi, Iraqis don’t register as human either.   

Those people who think that was also “the right thing to do”, not to impeach a mass murderer, G. W. Bush, are very similar and in no way fundamentally different from the Nazis killing Poles (the Nazis, though, had good reason to hate Poles: part of Poland as created in 1919, occupied lands which the Germans considered to have been German for centuries… And Germany was cut in half…) 

And who are those “people” who have so much influence on the extremely wealthy Pelosi? “People” wealthier than her and her 400 million dollar (minimum) family fortune?

Pelosi: If people think that Iraq had something to do with the 9/11, I mean it’s as appalling what they did. But I did – and I’ve said, if somebody wants to make a case, you bring it forward.

Well, I accuse you, Pelosi to have taken part in a conspiracy to commit a crime against humanity who killed millions, just to increase the profit of some on Wall Street and the fossil fuel frackers financed by them.

Pelosi: …they had impeached Bill Clinton for a personal indiscretion… for being stupid in terms of something like that. I mean I love him. I think he was a great President…

She means she loves him? I love the big fat white race? Yes, that’s not one of these no-lives Iraqis. Or is there more to it? What was so great about Clinton, besides blockading Iraq, depriving Iraqi babies of medicine? Was Clinton such a great president in nancy Pelosi’s eyes, because he obeyed the financial plutocracy and dismantled president Franklin D. Roosevelt’s banking reforms (which separated investment banking and infrastructure banking)? Thus enabling Pelosi’s friends and sponsors to make a fortune?

PELOSI: “…that’s how they did with Bill Clinton. Now, they want me to do George. This – I just didn’t want it to be a way of life in our country.

Now “they” want to do in her good friend, fellow plutocrat “George“, “George”. G. W. Bush.

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Nancy Pelosi also knew, as early as 2002 of the mass and systematic usage of torture by the US Army, under the orders of higher ups.

https://warcriminalswatch.org/index.php/the-culpable/36-the-culprits/79-template

She was also fully in the know about the attack against the freedom of media in the Wikileaks affair (“Assange”). When the revelation of a war crime by the US Army was treated as a war crime. whereas the war crime was treated as a benediction.

Pelosi’s case is a clear case of Crimes Against Humanity, though. I mean this; take Xi or Kim, dictators of PRC and North Korea, respectively. From a Western perspective, they look like potential criminals (especially Kim). However, it remains to be proven that, not just they are criminals, but that even crimes were committed, what are the mitigating circumstances, etc. Innocent until proven guilty. However, the crimes of Pelosi and the guilt of Pelosi are nothing to establish: Iraq was devastated, millions died, and she says she knew it was all  a big lie, a la Adolf Hitler. She says it. She KNEW. She recognizes she knew.

So what’s the lie now? That devastating Iraq is no big deal. As Hitler wrote before practicing it, make the lie big, make the lie simple, keep on repeating it.

Xi, for example, if confronted to Chinese gov crimes (already to be exhibited and proven, no easy feat as China has an enormous government, with police, detectives, prosecutors, judges, etc.)) could always deny that he was personally responsible.

But Pelosi BOASTS that she was responsible of the Iraq invasion and not prosecuting it, because it was “not impeachable“…. So, in her case, she self-indicts. And it’s nothing like the Ukrainian talk about inquiring on corruption. In the Pelosi affair, the invasion of Iraq, a war of aggression, MILLIONS DIED. France opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and blocked the war authorization at the UN Security Council. French government persuaded enough countries to do this. So US went to war illegally, making the invasion of 2003 illegal. And now we know not just that the US deciders (Bush and company), but also their overseers (Nancy Pelosi and the other three of the “Gang of 4”) lied, but they knew they were lying to enable themselves to go out and kill millions (what else? You invade a country, destroy its army and state, and millions are not going to die; destroying the state, by itself is a well-defined crime against humanity… which the Nazis themselves rarely committed, concentrating on Eastern Europe to do so, precisely because the Nazis tried to not violate the Geneva Conventions in too obvious a way in Western Europe!)

And Nancy Pelosi lies, to this day (2019 CE): yes, it’s important when one conspires to kill millions (as Bush could do, thanks to Biden, Pelosi). To lie about the fact that the killing of millions is important is a lie so big Hitler didn’t even engage in it. To claim killing millions was no big deal, even Hitler didn’t dare to do [2]. Pelosi, you should spend the rest of your days in prison, with your self-confessed “lover” Bush, and your accomplice Biden…

Patrice Ayme

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[1] It’s not because murder has been committed that it can’t be excused. The best known case is that of military personnel in a JUST war. “JUST” is the crux. If the war is UNJUST, the military turns into criminal. The invasion of Iraq  was criminal and unjust. Saddam’s regime was brutal (as dozens of the states in the UN) but it had advanced laws, duplicated from the West (as a Saddam baffled by US aggression observed), and it was secular. Anyway it’s not the business of a professional plutocrat and politician heiress (Pelosi) to kill millions. In a just world, she should be punished, finish her life in prison. Instead she is trying to become president (!) She is third in succession, and Pence was in the room…

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[2] Although a drunken Stalin would have said something equivalent to Churchill… Said Churchill… But that’s just hearsay. In the case of Pelosi, we have the tape.

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P/S: My spouse worked hard to free a prisoner with young children who had received a life sentence, and already done 15 years. Obama pardoned him. He had been found with a drug related pipe. A Biden law. Thank you Joe Biden!

Joe Biden’s long record writing down the legislation for the war on drugs and mass incarceration, explained: Biden was a major Democratic leader in spearheading America’s war on drugs during the 1980s and ’90s.

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28 Responses to “Is Nancy Pelosi A Self-Indicting War Criminal?”

  1. SDM Says:

    The Iraq / Afghan wars should be enough to bring the whole rancid mess that supported it but when the truth does not get circulated to we the people then it will only get worse. At least Tulsi has seen some airtime (even though smeared for it) on corporate media outlets, yet her criticisms have been less savage than they could be. She call Hillary queen of warmongers which was gentle given what she has done.
    Nuremburg trial standards would leave many of these folks swinging in the breeze.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I agree Tulsi was very restrained, and that she was attacked savagely by Clinton and Harris.
      But real savage. Tulsi a Russian agent? Really?

      What Nancy Pelosi did, NO high level Nazi was DUMB enough to do. She self-indicted beautifully. Von Ribbentrop could say, all the Nazis did, that Poland attacked (a lie, with a fake attack staged), or that Poland attacked because it cut Germany in two (from Versailles)… a contrived truth (not the fault of Poland). But France and UK declared war TO the Nazis, not vice versa. Nuremberg trial decided they had to.

      Pelosi is different: she was PART (legislative branch) of a government which decided to LIE to launch an attack of another country… And she knew it.

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  2. Patrice Ayme Says:

    We give to Wall Street, because WS gave to Clinton, Bush, Obama, and we love them, and Pelosi does, especially “George”, whom she knew, being one of 4 on the Intelligence Com completely invented the case against Iraq

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  3. Kevin Berger Says:

    FFS, what’s up with you and pelosi, biden & co…?

    My 0.02, but if you have to hate the US political system, as it should be hated, hate it whole and not piecemeal – and do not fall into the “partisanship trap” by hating on the other team only. ESPECIALLY if you do so because you are rooting for the donald, I mean, what a strange hill to be willing to die on…

    Et vu de France, merde alors, déjà, rien à foutre de ces bougnoules-burgers (et au passage, sans tomber non plus dans le piège du béguin pour tel ou tel autre “ennemi” des susdits burgers, et de bander à son tour pour les russes, les chinois, les vénézuéliens ou autres iraniens à la con). Leur système est toxique, cancérigène, nous tue et pire que ça, pisse dans notre âme et nous séduit, et nous insulte en sus).

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Killing 2.4 million people, seeing nothing wrong about it, nobody knowing anything about about it, nobody caring to check the truth, is the problem with Pelosi and Biden, two of the greatest war criminals alive today

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I don’t root “for the Donald”… but I am happy when he addresses (and fixes!) problems I have talked about for many decades. Agreed, it would be much better if he engaged LOW… But where are the Dems on that? I live around Pelosi’s area and the squalor her policies have brought. She doesn’t walk among deranged Mexicans profiting from her “sanctuary” policies… She and her friends are all private, all the time, they commute to their immense Tahoe property by jets….

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  4. Patrice Ayme Says:

    We live in the world of terror exerted by lesser minds of the hating tribal type. Here is the sort of exchange that the preceding essay led to on Facebook in a group called “intentional nsight Insiders”
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    Patrice Ayme: Trump haters and Pelosi-Biden pushers are quite similar to the Hitler-Mussolini pushers of the 1930s. Yes, they are all morally self-righteous, as the Nazis were, but they have left reality. That’s 2.4 million dead Iraqis, courtesy Biden-Pelosi
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    Stephen Jones
    Stephen Jones Patrice Ayme a very bizarre analogy to Hitler and Mussolini. Wow!
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    Vikki Stefans
    Vikki Stefans Patrice Ayme that needs hard evidence.
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    Elisa Brock
    Elisa Brock That is a gross overstatement, unworthy of a truth-seeking group. As a moderator, I am going to warn you about your oversimplification and overgeneralization of your statement. This is a first warning. Continual remarks like this, without supporting evidence, will be referred to the moderators for discussion about further action.
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    Patrice Ayme
    Patrice Ayme Moderator: Your warning is violent. You try to inflict fear. Did you read my essay? Do you think contributing to kill 2.4 million Iraqis is “continual remarks like this without supporting evidence will be referred to moderators”. I think you should consider your own actions. Read Pelosi, it’s on CNN transcripts: Frankly I think you should excuse yourself to humanity. Biden authorized the Iraq war as chief of relevant Senate com, Pelosi was ranking member Int Com. she knew Bush lied, and she lied in turn

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Notice that the cognitively impaired (by hatred, obviously) Elisa doesn’t consider Pelosi’s declaration to be “supporting evidence”. Actually, at Nuremberg, Pelsoi’s own declarations would have been enough to send Pelosi to hang.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      More exchanges on the subject of my looming expulsion from III:

      Don Kemerling: I am not just a registered Democrat, I have given decades of action for progressive causes behind the scenes. My spouse knew Obama since they were ten, they were best friends. Anybody reading the millions of words I published out there in the last few decades will find a striking analogy with Obama’s RHETORIC (NOT his actions). I know lots of things for a fact that I am not even revealing. Let’s say the influence of billionaires like Gates is much greater than people suspect. We were outright told by the powers that be that “we don’t want you to talk to Obama anymore, because we can’t tell what you are going to say to him.” It got worse from there… Corruption of top Democrats and people enabling them is obvious. Go to these parties and eat gold leaf (as I did many times), and you will see what I mean. But of course they don’t invite the non-very wealthy and/or extremely well connected. I am Bay Area based, so I have the inside track on Nancy…
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      Patrice Ayme
      Patrice Ayme In the 1950s, most top French intellectuals and influencers (like the most famous journalist from Paris-Match, Cartier) were on CIA payroll. There is, if anything, evidence that it has gotten much worse since, as the story of Alstom under Obama showed… And the US “justice” system was involved, deliberately bankrupting Alstom, so GE could swallow it. They did something similar with BNP (Europe’s largest bank). And so on. Same when Trump strikes Europe for Airbus, etc…

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  5. Vikki Stefans Says:

    Patrice Ayme, that needs hard evidence.

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  6. Stephen Jones Says:

    Patrice Ayme: then why has France helped with the war in Iraq?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      I am not in charge of French war policy. Technically they have excellent long range guns for counter battery activity, radar-computer controlled, the “Caesar”. They used that to destroy ISIS.
      France opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and blocked the war authorization at the UN Security Council. French government persuaded enough countries to do this. So US went to war illegally

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      • Stephen Jones Says:

        @ Patrice Ayme: assuming that illegality is based on the U.N. Security Council of 5 countries including Russia and China, not all that friendly countries, matters in the whole scheme of things. Saddam Hussein was gassing thousands and he was an asshead lunatic. Most Iraqis cheered us, at the beginning. Iraq has a real parliament now. The U.S. didn’t invade Iraq in 2003 with any intention of killing many people. Saddam’ army didn’t mind giving up easy.

        – if you had targeted President George W Bush and Vice President Richard Cheney, without the analogies to Hitler, I would have agreed.

        I will care more about my homeland of France, when Macron kicks Trump in the knee.

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        • Patrice Ayme Says:

          Stephen Jones You seem unfamiliar with the full workings of the UNSC. The US invasion of Iraq led to immense destruction. The latest estimates are 2.4 million dead, in the few years after the 2003 invasion. That doesn’t count the one million killed by the blockade of medical drugs under Clinton, earlier. Objective evaluation of the situation in Iraq showed that Hussein’s regime was not too abusive, considering the situation. Saddam’s Iraq was not Maduro’s Venezuela. Venezuela’s dire situation is mostly Maduro’s work. Right, people were been killed in Iraq. However the gazed Kurds were gazed during war: they had been allied with Iran (I am pro Kurd, all the way to independence, BTW).

          The Western powers especially France and the USA pushed Saddam to attack Iran, and then helped him militarily, massively. US true intention, whatever that means, is irrelevant. I don’t know what US intentions are, I just know that believing the Iraq invasion was justified is criminally insane…

          And I am FOR military interventions when warranted (I pushed Obama for intervention in Libya, but then they dropped the ball…) I have lived in Iran, and I absolutely detest the present Iranian regime, as I do all Islamist regimes (their fawas I excrete) Do you think the Nazis had the “intent” to have World War Two evolved as it did? Your homeland is France?

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  7. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Bush killed millions in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands died under Clinton, in Iraq. Funny thing, I wrote many essays about this. Biden made it possible, authorizing the war, as head of Senate Foreign Com.. So did Pelosi.

    Cheney the creep who I personally detest, was irrelevant: he had NO power. (Except propaganda).

    Biden or Pelosi both “Democrats” had the power to STOP the IRAQ INVASION. But they were for it.

    If one ran Nuremberg again, for Iraq, Bush and his enablers would hang. There are six of them if you include the whole “gang of four” (including Pelosi, who knew “George” lied, for a fact)… but Nancy “loves George”… actually she loves to cover her own butt…)

    Nancy, as Speaker, was strongly asked, in 2006, to impeach Bush, for the invasion of Iraq under false pretense, lying to the world… She refused, because Bush had been “elected”.

    When the Roman Senate accused Caesar to have massacred a German tribe invading Gaul, and to come back to Rome to be judged for crime against humanity reflecting poorly on Rome, and thus compromising Rome’s future, a stung Caesar gave a long answer, explaining why he had to do it. Caesar’s reasons are acceptable, to this day. However, the US invasion of Iraq does not stand to scrutiny.

    https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2018/12/07/bushs-bait-and-switch-in-iraq-skewering-secular-iraq-in-the-guise-of-skewering-saddam/

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  8. Don Kemerling Says:

    “France opposed the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and blocked the war authorization at the UN Security Council. French government persuaded enough countries to do this. So US went to war illegally”

    Don Kemerling: Indeed, it was the worst blunder/war crime in American history.

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      Don Kemerling Yes, indeed the Iraq invasion of 2003 is the worst well defined war crime action of US history… At least since some of general Jackson’s activities against the Indians (which the US Congress couldn’t stop as Jackson headed the Army) . So Jackson’s aggression of Indian nations, although criminal was not really a US government act, as Jackson, not the US, ordered them….

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  9. Patrice Ayme Says:

    [Sent to Chris Rust]

    The IMF stopped $5 billion of Ukraine financing for more than a year, for corruption, until December 2019. Now Trump stopped his own lethal aid to Ukraine for 48 days: lethal aid secretly installed by Trump then legalized by Republicans. Bolton is a hyper right wing fascist warmonger.

    To see “Democratic” individuals promote Bolton (who is on tape as finding the phone call perfect, at the time…) is really the world upside down. Nobody is on the right of Bolton.

    One infamy can hide another, much more atrocious. Those who are all indignant about details forget that of 3 (three) US politicians who made possible the killing of 2.4 million Iraqis after 2002, 2 are politically active now:
    see essay above….

    [That was an answer to the following public post from Chris Rust: Dear Republican Party. The American people will not forget this day of treachery … when 51 Senators voted against a fair trial and due process. They put defending a corrupt President above their oath to protect and defend our / your Constitution by blocking any semblance of a fair trial. The House managers put forth a compelling and fact-based case that the President and his team of direct reports broke the law by withholding ~$400m of military assistance that they had zero legal grounds to withhold… Regardless of your political affiliation, the Republican Senators who blocked first hand witness John Bolton from being heard failed all Americans today. This is a day of infamy. I will see the Republican Party at the ballot box, as will the majority of Americans who also wanted a fair trial with documents and witnesses.]

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  10. James Hughes Says:

    James Hughes @Patrice Do your comments have anything to do with digital campaigning? If your argument is that Dems have had bad foreign policy instincts, got it – I agree. If your argument on impeachment is that Trump was actually concerned with corruption, that is patently silly. Trump is Corruption Inc. and Lev Parnas, Bolton, et al have made clear that getting dirt on Biden was the only reason for the Ukraine shakedown.

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  11. Don Kemerling Says:

    “My spouse worked hard to free a prisoner with young children who had received a life sentence, and already done 15 years. Obama pardoned him. He had been found with a drug related pipe. A Biden law. Thank you Joe Biden!”

    Don Kemerling: Was that a case of 3 strikes and you’re in for the rest of your life?

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    • Patrice Ayme Says:

      @ Don Kemerling: He was an Illinois prisoner convicted under mandatory FEDERAL LAW sentencing authored by Joe Biden, similar to California’s “Three Strikes”. Eric Holder lessened those laws, but he had been convicted under Biden law.

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  12. Patrice Ayme Says:

    @ Stephen Jones
    Nancy Pelosi was the “Ranking Member” of the US Congress’ Intelligence Committee while Bush was preparing to invade Iraq. In my essay, I quoted her description, in December 2019, of her actions. The lies were not apparent.

    I basically was unfriended by all my friends, and accused to be “French” at the time. Also the New York Times banned me from comments for more than ten years. All this because I knew these were all lies. So did Nancy, but she had the proof.

    Actually, when she led Congress in 2016, Nancy was asked to start an impeachment procedure against Bush about Iraq… But she refused, under reasons which turned out to be lies, by her own admission, in December 2019. The real reason was that she had given Bush the go-ahead… while knowing it was all a pack of lies…

    Make no mistake: I am 100% pro-woman, and 100% progressive… But the Iraq invasion was not just a war crime, but a disaster… Still unfolding (although it pleased Iranians, Saudis, frackers, and Wall Street…

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  13. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Nancy Pelosi evokes “the dignity of the presidency”. But Bush told her he lied to invade Iraq, a war crime, that she could have stopped in 2003. She helped cause the death of three millions, should be tried. She tries to cover up her war crime by claiming purity!

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  14. Patrice Ayme Says:

    Bush is a war criminal and criminal against humanity. He invaded Iraq to make US fracking profitable, killing more than three millions in the process, partly thanks to his accomplices Joe and Nancy. Only positive thing about him is that he has the decency of shutting up in public. Privately, he raked probably more than 15 million dollars in speeches to fellow plutocrats. https://patriceayme.wordpress.com/2020/01/01/is-nancy-pelosi-a-self-indicting-war-criminal/

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  15. Don Kemerling Says:

    I hadn’t thought about Pelosi as being so involved, since she actually voted against the war, but if the big time criminals are never held to account, there will always be big time criminals. There are no criminals like war criminals.

    It’s no surprise that all these professional politicians would work so hard to portray a non-politician so harshly, and the corporate media is cheer-leading like a bunch of fools. They are the real problem. American politics really sucks.

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